# How do you pronounce "Taoiseach"?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 17, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018 "2011-03-17T14:09:17Z")\
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It looks like “Tao is each” but I think it’s supposed to be something like “'Tis each” or “'Tis echh”!

Happy St. Patrick’s Day, everybody!

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/2 "2011-03-17T14:17:30Z")

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Tea-Shock.

( Rhymes with Peacock if you make the C explosive. )

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Tea Shuck isn’t too far away

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/4 "2011-03-17T15:53:07Z")

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In Irish the final -ch should be guttural (IPA /x/, as in German _Bach_). I think I’ve heard both final /x/ and final /k/ when the word is used in English.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/5 "2011-03-17T16:04:29Z")

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a range from tea-shock to tea-shuck is how most irish people pronounce it

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/6 "2011-03-17T16:24:59Z")

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And the emphasis is on the first syllable, right?

TEA-sh’k

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/7 "2011-03-17T16:34:58Z")

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I look at that and see “ta-oy-see-atch”. I’m sure that’s a bit off. What does Irish _do_ with all those vowels?

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/8 "2011-03-17T17:25:46Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> I look at that and see “ta-oy-see-atch”. I’m sure that’s a bit off. What does Irish _do_ with all those vowels?

(Maybe not a serious question, but I’ll answer it anyway.) They use them to help out with the consonants.

Most Irish consonants exist in pairs: so-called “broad” (like English) and “palatal” (with a y-sound).

Compare Spanish N & Ñ or Russian Н & Нь. Imagine if every consonant were like that, but you hadn’t invented the tilde or the soft sign. The Irish are brilliant as a people but their orthographic system is… well, not as good as the Spanish or Russian options. It is an improvement on ogham, though.

T + i would normally be a palatal T, so they stick a broad vowel in between them to let you know it’s a broad T. (For historical-linguistic reasons, they chose AO here. AO is its own vowel, which doesn’t exist in Englsih, a bit like Russian Ы.)

S + a would normally be a broad S, as in English. So they stick a palatal (“slender”) vowel in between, E, to let you know it’s a nice palatal SH sound.

So the letters break down to five sounds:

tao = /t/  
i = /i/  
se = /ʃ/  
a = /a/  
ch = /x/

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/9 "2011-03-17T17:28:22Z")

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And all this time I’ve been saying Twice Each. I’m sure if I said that in Ireland and they could figure out what I meant, there would be some sort of euphemistic aspersions cast my way.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/10 "2011-03-17T17:57:26Z")

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Shar-day

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/11 "2011-03-17T17:59:48Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> (Maybe not a serious question, but I’ll answer it anyway.) They use them to help out with the consonants…

Actually, it was a serious question, and you’ve given me the first answer I’ve really understood.

Edit: and nown I understand the name Sean, which, when I first saw it, I thought was pronounced “Seen”. 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/12 "2011-03-17T18:00:59Z")

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> [@bryanmaguire](#):
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> a range from tea-shock to tea-shuck is how most irish people pronounce it

That’s an Irish “tea,” right?

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/13 "2011-03-17T18:19:26Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> That’s an Irish “tea,” right?

Yes. Not quite “t”, not quite “th”. The first vowel isn’t a pure vowel either, it’s a glide.

But “tea-shock” is good enough to be understood, and that’s exactly how it’s pronounced by many (non-RTÉ) newsreaders when speaking English.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/14 "2011-03-18T00:46:14Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> So the letters break down to five sounds:
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> tao = /t/  
> i = /i/  
> se = /ʃ/  
> a = /a/  
> ch = /x/

Isn’t the second \<a\> actually a schwa?

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> [@hibernicus](#):
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> But “tea-shock” is good enough to be understood, and that’s exactly how it’s pronounced by many (non-RTÉ) newsreaders when speaking English.

When reporting from the “doyle” about “feena foil”. 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/16 "2011-03-18T10:31:51Z")

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Lol Celtic phonology makes no sense to me.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/17 "2011-03-18T10:50:01Z")

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I remember “Tea-shock” by remembering the name of Dermot MacMorrough’s daughter who married Strongbow DeClare.

Her name was Aoife. Pronounced “Eve.”

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/18 "2011-03-18T10:55:16Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Her name was Aoife. Pronounced “Eve.”

It’s pronounced “Eefah”.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/19 "2011-03-18T11:03:57Z")

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> [@donnie\_darko](#):
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> Lol Celtic phonology makes no sense to me.

It’s not the phonology that’s the problem so much as the wacky spelling! 😉

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-taoiseach/575018/20 "2011-03-18T11:25:44Z")

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Throatwarbler mangrove.

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