# How do you suppose Trump would govern? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 26, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234 "2016-01-26T04:21:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/61 "2016-01-27T04:43:18Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Maybe, but they’re still right that manufacturing jobs have disappeared in the US mostly due to automation, not outsourcing. Even if you put 100 percent tariffs on imported electronics from China the amount of new jobs generated would be vastly less than the ones that disappeared over the last 20 years. Those jobs aren’t coming back. People need to reskill and move on. Not necessarily-German has a far more robust manufacturing sector then us despite being an advanced country indicating it isn’t solely a function of automation. And of course, the American fusionist Right has no interest in “reskilling” workers or helping out devastated communities. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/62 "2016-01-27T09:47:32Z")
Trump has had tons of experience with working with business executives, corporate boards, labor groups, and negotiating business deals with hundreds of millions of dollars with both American and non-American companies. Also working with governments. He just knows how to negotiate win-win deals. People will want to work with him. Also if you watch “The Apprentice” he is good at picking good people, motivating people, and getting his workers to accomplish things. Now granted he needs to learn to watch his mouth. He’s not in Hollywood anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/63 "2016-01-27T09:49:57Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Oh and just for the record, there is no evidence that Trump knows “how to deal” with China. He buys clothing and items from Chinese companies, and he’s dealt with Hong Kong and Chinese investors, thats it. Trump has no properties in mainland China, Hong Kong or Macau, so he’s never done any real business there. > / Still better than the zero experience Hillary and Bernie have had and way better than Obama who had hardly ever even travelled outside the US. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/64 "2016-01-27T10:15:16Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Still better than the zero experience Hillary and Bernie have had and way better than Obama who had hardly ever even travelled outside the US. Excuse me? Hillary has been Secretary of State, she has far more foreign policy and diplomatic experience than Trump. On Sanders you may have a point, but hes no where near as laughable as Trumps “oh yeah I have a plan for ISIS but its secret, I won’t tell you because then the bad guys will know”… ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/65 "2016-01-27T12:54:19Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Excuse me? Hillary has been Secretary of State, she has far more foreign policy and diplomatic experience than Trump. On Sanders you may have a point, but hes no where near as laughable as Trumps “oh yeah I have a plan for ISIS but its secret, I won’t tell you because then the bad guys will know”… Secretary of State is a title, a position, but not an actual accomplishment. Neither is First Lady, Senator, Victim, or Martyr. You have provided the unwavering response to every question about her experience and qualifications. I find that very telling. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/66 "2016-01-27T13:43:38Z")
Sanders actually was a mayor, so he has executive experience. Clinton has some as Secretary of State, but from everything we’ve learned it doesn’t sound like she had much control over anything. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/67 "2016-01-27T13:51:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Sanders actually was a mayor, so he has executive experience. Clinton has some as Secretary of State, but from everything we’ve learned it doesn’t sound like she had much control over anything. You know who else was a Mayor? ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/68 "2016-01-27T14:28:39Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Secretary of State is a title, a position, but not an actual accomplishment. Neither is First Lady, Senator, Victim, or Martyr. So please prey tell do tell me what would be an accomplishment in foreign policy you would accept as valid for a presidential candidate? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/69 "2016-01-27T14:35:32Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > So please prey tell do tell me what would be an accomplishment in foreign policy you would accept as valid for a presidential candidate? I don’t know that there is one. I just don’t accept titles as evidence of accomplishment. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/70 "2016-01-27T15:01:04Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t know that there is one. I just don’t accept titles as evidence of accomplishment. So clearly then an argument from ignorance. One can point to items like: 1. She had a deciding role in killing Osama bin Laden. 2. Managing the State Department that saw a 50 percent increase in exports to China. 3. Working with other world leaders setting the groundwork for the eventual climate change accords. 4. Implementing and organizing with other nations the toughest sanctions ever on Iran, forcing it eventually to get to the negotiating table. That and more here: [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157) > [@](#): > > As Secretary of State, Secretary Clinton was not only inspirational figure for billions of women around the globe, she also did much to restore the shattered credibility of the United States, which had lost so much influence following the failed foreign policies of the previous administration. She negotiated the cease-fire in Gaza that stopped the Hamas from firing rocket after rocket into Israel. She helped secure the START treaty’s ratification, and has advanced women’s rights in countries around the globe. That’s just a snapshot of what Hillary Clinton has accomplished over a lifetime of public service to New York and the country. If you really want to stump a Democrat, you should ask them which of Hillary’s accomplishments is your favorite—there are too many to choose from. > -Chuck Schumer, U.S. Senator for New York, Democratic party. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/71 "2016-01-27T15:38:55Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > How do you suppose he would govern? Well, for one thing, he would boycott the governing whenever he thinks people are being nasty to him. “Try having a one-man summit conference, Vladimir!” ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/72 "2016-01-28T00:45:51Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > So clearly then an argument from ignorance. > > One can point to items like: > > 1. She had a deciding role in killing Osama bin Laden. > 2. Managing the State Department that saw a 50 percent increase in exports to China. > 3. Working with other world leaders setting the groundwork for the eventual climate change accords. > 4. Implementing and organizing with other nations the toughest sanctions ever on Iran, forcing it eventually to get to the negotiating table. > > That and more here: > > [http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157) I’m happy that you admit your argument is ignorant. It’s also nonsense. She did not have a deciding role in killing Osama bin Laden unless you are calling Obama incompetent. What on earth did she do in the State Dept. to increase exports to China? What climate change accords did she have anything do with? They were started before she was in office and haven’t produced anything yet, obviously you don’t know the difference between puffery and substance. If you can work on fighting your ignorance maybe you could come up with a single fact to support your otherwise baseless opinions. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/73 "2016-01-28T01:21:36Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’m happy that you admit your argument is ignorant. Not happy because you are only showing all that you are reading it wrong. > [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s also nonsense. She did not have a deciding role in killing Osama bin Laden unless you are calling Obama incompetent. Are you really willing to say that as secretary of state she had no say so on the decision to get Bin Laden? > **[Biden on Bin Laden, Take 2 - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/biden-on-bin-laden-take-2/)** > > Vice president Biden now says that he privately advised President Obama to approve the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. That's different from what Biden and Obama said in 2012. > [@](#): > > New York Times, Jan. 30, 2012: “He went around the table with all the senior people, including the chiefs of staff, and he said, ‘I have to make a decision. What is your opinion?’ ” Mr. Biden said, in an account later confirmed by the White House. > > The president, Mr. Biden said, started with his national security adviser, Tom Donilon, then moved to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, and other senior officials, including Leon E. Panetta, then director of the Central Intelligence Agency, who oversaw the raid, before ending up with the vice president. > [@TriPolar](#): > > What on earth did she do in the State Dept. to increase exports to China? You need a lot of diplomatic efforts to open markets there, and indeed that is where Clinton enters the picture. [http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/20121120amcham.html](http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/20121120amcham.html) > [@](#): > > Secretary Clinton has visited China seven times in the past four years. And other senior U.S. leaders including Vice President Biden, Treasury Secretary Geithner, Federal Reserve Board Chairman Bernanke and Defense Secretaries Gates and Panetta have visited China and engaged with Chinese leaders in the United States. > > Through all of these interactions over the past four years we have developed patterns of engagement and mechanisms for communication that have helped strengthen the U.S.-China relationship. The United States is committed to further building a cooperative partnership with China including through strong economic engagement, cooperation on regional and global issues, and deepening people-to-people ties. > [@TriPolar](#): > > What climate change accords did she have anything do with? Pay attention, I clearly mentioned “setting the groundworks for the eventual climate change accords.” > **[The Clinton Legacy](https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2013-05-01/clinton-legacy)** > > As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton helped restore America’s standing in the world, but she left office with no signature achievement. If she gets her way, her tenure as the country’s top diplomat will come to be seen simply as a stepping-stone to... > [@](#): > > “Obama and Clinton barged into a meeting at the 2009 global climate change talks in Copenhagen and forced the Chinese president to agree to a nonbinding pact under which rich and poor countries alike pledged to curb their carbon emissions.” In her book Hard Choices,Secretary Clinton wrote, “Sitting [in Copenhagen] next to President Obama in the small leaders’ meeting he and I had just forced our way into, I hoped that we might finally be getting somewhere. I looked across the table at Wen Jiabao, then at the leaders of India, Brazil, and South Africa. […] In the end, after lots of cajoling, debating, and compromising, the leaders in that room fashioned a deal that, while far from perfect, saved the summit from failure and put us on the road to future progress. > > For the first time all major economies, developed and developing alike, agreed to make national commitments to curb carbon emissions through 2020 and report transparently on their mitigation efforts. The world began moving away from the division between developed and developing countries that had defined the Kyoto agreement.” > [@TriPolar](#): > > They were started before she was in office and haven’t produced anything yet, obviously you don’t know the difference between puffery and substance. I think the examples showed that you do not know substance if it hits you. 😃 > [@TriPolar](#): > > If you can work on fighting your ignorance maybe you could come up with a single fact to support your otherwise baseless opinions. So, lets be clear about how baseless your ignorance can get then, the points came from the article I cited, it was a paraphrase of Bill Burton and then a quote from Shumer. So you were not even aware that your last dig was ignoring what I pointed at. To people that had, if not first hand knowledge, then better info that I ever had. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/74 "2016-01-28T01:47:00Z")
Of course, dealing the matter at hand, can anyone just picture the kind of cabinet Trump would come up with? Just look at his current campaign manager [del]Jabba the Hutt[/del] Sam Clovis: > **[Candidate Profile: Sam Clovis](https://www.iowapublicradio.org/state-government-news/2014-05-27/candidate-profile-sam-clovis)** > > Read this candidate profile of Republican U.S. Senate candidate Sam Clovis. He was interviewed as part of IPR's 2014 Primary Voter Guide series.You have… > [@](#): > > \*[IPR] According to figures from NASA, 97% of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. Do you believe the science? \* > > [Clovis] I am extremely skeptical. I have looked at the science and I have enough of a science background to know when I’m being boofed. And a lot of the science is junk science. It’s not proven; I don’t think there’s any substantive information available to me that doesn’t raise as many questions as it does answers. So I’m a skeptic. :smack: Of course the other option is then that of him being a very evil guy that knows better but is willing to continue seeding ignorance to get a lot of the action that professional climate change deniers are getting. And a lot of it is going to Republicans in power. As Trump is also in the same boat, Trump would indeed not care much if eventually the USA loses a lot when his cabinet dismantles any past efforts made to do the right thing about controlling emissions. He and Sam Clovis will make a mint. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/75 "2016-01-28T01:55:50Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Not happy because you are only showing all that you are reading it wrong. Oh I’m reading it right. > [@](#): > > Are you really willing to say that as secretary of state she had no say so on the decision to get Bin Laden? > > [Biden on Bin Laden, Take 2 - FactCheck.org](http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/biden-on-bin-laden-take-2/) I don’t have time now to explain the difference between an opinion and a decision to you. But this lack of knowledge on your part is clearly a problem for you. > [@](#): > > You need a lot of diplomatic efforts to open markets there, and indeed that is where Clinton enters the picture. > > [http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/20121120amcham.html](http://beijing.usembassy-china.org.cn/20121120amcham.html) See, this is why Trump gets so much attention. He takes the bullshit you provide as a cite and reduces it down to a few lines so we don’t all get bored to death. Let me paraphrase: “China is wonderful, the US is wonderful, Obama is wonderful, his vice president and cabinet are wonderful! We’re all wonderful!” > [@](#): > > Pay attention, I clearly mentioned “setting the groundworks for the eventual climate change accords.” > > [The Clinton Legacy](https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2013-04-03/clinton-legacy) Yes, Obama laid the groundworks and she watched, and then she wrote her little book about climate change was all about her. > [@](#): > > I think the examples showed that you do not know substance if it hits you. 😃 Haven’t been hit with anything yet. Maybe substance is another word you don’t understand. > [@](#): > > So, lets be clear about how baseless your ignorance can get then, the points came from the article I cited, it was a paraphrase of Bill Burton and then a quote from Shumer. > > So you were not even aware that your last dig was ignoring what I pointed at. To people that had, if not first hand knowledge, then better info that I ever had. Again that misunderstanding of what opinion means. Point to the accomplishment. If not for Hillary Clinton \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ would not have happened. There are some things, but they’re mighty unimpressive for a political insider over a 40 year career. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/76 "2016-01-28T02:06:40Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Again that misunderstanding of what opinion means. Point to the accomplishment. If not for Hillary Clinton \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ would not have happened. There are some things, but they’re mighty unimpressive for a political insider over a 40 year career. It is your opinion, 🙂 but those items were brought because you accused me of not knowing that those items were “nonsense or ignorant”. Turns out that they were not as you claimed, factcheckers and other reporters do not agree with your opinions. So what you posted in reply was just puffery, nothing to contradict the points that Bill Burton, Shumer, fact checkers and others did. Tap dance as much as you like but the reality is that everyone can see that you were also wrong with the silly idea that I made those points from ignorance, even after I also mentioned where they were coming from; so far from being ignorant, they are on the record as I found too, so the points stand indeed. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/77 "2016-01-28T02:21:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It is your opinion, 🙂 but those items were brought because you accused me of not knowing that those items were “nonsense or ignorant”. > > Turns out that they were not as you claimed, factcheckers and other reporters do not agree with your opinions. > So what you posted in reply was just puffery, nothing to contradict the points that Bill Burton, Shumer, fact checkers and others did. > > Tap dance as much as you like but the reality is that everyone can see that you were also wrong with the silly idea that I made those points from ignorance, even after I also mentioned where they were coming from; so far from being ignorant, they are on the record as I found too, so the points stand indeed. In other words Hillary has no notable accomplishments. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/78 "2016-01-28T02:30:32Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > In other words Hillary has no notable accomplishments. As pointed before, your opinion, that is not supported by smarter people than me too, and people that did check them also. So the other point stands too, you claimed that the points were ignorant indeed (and you are still showing a very basic ignorant problem from the very beginning ( **they were not my points either** ). Remember what you claimed was that the testimony and records were ignorant or imaginary. Not likely as other more important people and reporters that did check told us. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/79 "2016-01-28T02:44:53Z")
Of course, that exercise was made because I wanted to see what this exchange was about: > [@coremelt](#): > > So please prey tell do tell me what would be an accomplishment in foreign policy you would accept as valid for a presidential candidate? > [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t know that there is one. I just don’t accept titles as evidence of accomplishment. And we know the answer now, no example from Clinton will be accepted as valid. And **Tripolar** just wanted to be happy with his ignorance. So, nothing much there so I will stick to Trump and the fools he is walking with from now on. Because if anyone thinks the current Trump edition is just faking it, you guys need to be aware about the people he will help into more powerful positions if he gets elected. > **[Donald Trump To Receive Endorsement Of Anti-Immigrant, Birther Extremist Joe...](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/donald-trump-to-receive-endorsement-of-anti-immigrant-birther-extremist-joe-arpaio/)** > > An Arizona sheriff best known for his human rights abuses, attacks on immigrants and birther conspiracy theories is heading to Iowa today to endorse > [@](#): > > An Arizona sheriff best known for his human rights abuses, attacks on immigrants and birther conspiracy theories is heading to Iowa today to endorse Donald Trump, according to a report in the New York Times. > > Trump, who has recently won support from Sarah Palin and Jerry Falwell Jr., has actively courted Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who defended the GOP presidential candidate after he claimed that most immigrants are criminals. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234/80 "2016-01-28T02:46:21Z")
Right here, fill in the blank or admit you have nothing. If not for Hillary Clinton \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ would not have happened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-suppose-trump-would-govern/744234.md?page=5)