# How do you think this whole Trump thing is going to end? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525 "2017-01-29T20:59:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/1 "2017-01-29T20:59:59Z")
Wow, this got ugly fast. Thanks, fuckheads, who voted for this piece of human excrement. I personally think he will be out of office by the end of the year. He will continue the crazy and the GOP will either remove him via the 25th amendment or force him to resign. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/2 "2017-01-29T21:12:25Z")
Very, very badly. Talk of impeachment and so on is just wishful thinking. He’ll remain as Bannon’s hand-puppet for the next eight years while the conventions, checks and balances that make America great get dismantled one by one. The “Muslim ban” will never be dialed back because to do so will be seen as “soft” by his base. He’ll use the “trial period” as a foundation to increase its scope. There’s going to be a “catalyzing event” involving “radical Islam” soon that will cause emergency powers to be enacted as an extension of the PATRIOT Act. The rights of Muslim Americans will be severely eroded thereby. There will be further invasions of Muslim-majority countries. Expect constitutional amendments while there’s a supermarjority. The economy will tank due to protectionism. Angry unemployed people will not blame Trump, they’ll blame liberals, blacks and Muslims. By 2024 you won’t recognise the country. But there’ll be enough disenfranchisement that what the GOP has by then turned into will get their new guy again. I hope I’m wrong but based on the last few days, that’s what it looks like. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/3 "2017-01-29T21:18:18Z")
Maybe just wishful thinking, but I’m hopeful that in 2018 the Democrats take the House and Senate and impeach Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/4 "2017-01-29T21:20:16Z")
The Nixon route: once impeachment and conviction are highly likely, he’ll resign. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/5 "2017-01-29T21:23:23Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Very, very badly. > I hope I’m wrong but based on the last few days, that’s what it looks like. I know people are going to say everything you just posted is hysterical paranoia, but I don’t agree. I think the appointment of Steve Bannon to the NSC should remove all doubts about where we’re heading, if we don’t resist. And by “we”, I don’t just mean progressives and sane conservatives. I mean everyone–our friends and allies all around the world, included. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/6 "2017-01-29T21:24:01Z")
Big business hates disorder more than anything, and the GOP is collectively sucking their dick, so they won’t tolerate chaos for the sake of chaos. They are going to remove Trump, probably sooner rather than later. The other possibility is a Reichstag fire-esque event that forces the GOP to choose quickly, and they end up choosing wrong. That’s the only way I see **jjimm’s** scenario playing out. Then we’d have an actual civil war, and Trump would still need to win. I think the chance of all that happening is pretty low but definitely non-zero. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/7 "2017-01-29T21:27:22Z")
I think **jjimm** is probably pretty close to the mark. The shakeup at the NSC and appointment of Bannon to it are very worrisome to me. No good can come of that. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/8 "2017-01-29T21:30:55Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > the appointment of Steve Bannon to the NSC should remove all doubts about where we’re heading Indeed, that was what confirmed what I had been fearing. > [@](#): > > And by “we”, I don’t just mean progressives and sane conservatives. I mean everyone–our friends and allies all around the world, included. You have no idea how badly the Trump presidency is being viewed by even the conservative wings of those friends and allies. Teresa May’s recent hand holding is in serious danger of destroying her reputation. Have a look at any random story by the _conservative_ media in any country in Europe re. Trump, e.g. [The Daily Telegraph](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/29/donald-trumps-ban-refugees-us-president-insists-policy-not-against/), one of our furthest-right broadsheets. ---
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/9 "2017-01-29T21:30:57Z")
If Trump makes it to 2020, I think that Cruz, emulating Reagan in 1976 (when he took on the incumbent Ford) will make a strong run to gain the GOP nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/10 "2017-01-29T21:30:58Z")
Lawsuits. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/11 "2017-01-29T21:33:25Z")
I have no idea how it will end but it won’t be pretty whatever happens. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/12 "2017-01-29T21:35:13Z")
At the end of the day, trump is doing exactly what he said it was. The people who voted for him hoping he wouldn’t do them are being proven wrong. In the end I think he’ll survive the next 4 years and stay president and not run for reelection. The Republicans will probably pull back from trump and focus on not getting destroyed in 4 years but besides that not much else. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/13 "2017-01-29T21:35:35Z")
If Trump orders the military to carry out illegal actions (war crimes, torture, illegal wars of aggression, etc.) I don’t think that it’s out of the question that the military might remove him and put Pence or Paul Ryan in his place. They have a legal obligation to refuse unlawful orders and if they obeyed him they would be held accountable (and possibly face capital punishment) under his successor. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/14 "2017-01-29T21:36:03Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > The Nixon route: once impeachment and conviction are highly likely, he’ll resign. I honestly think he’ll commit suicide before he would do that. :eek: My local newspaper printed this essay in today’s edition. TL : DR - Mr. Trump, the world is not your own personal fan club. > **[Editorial: An open letter to President Trump](https://qctimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/editorial-an-open-letter-to-president-trump/article_ac430bc1-a98b-54e6-a7a4-b3e6e85689ca.html#utm_source=qctimes.com&utm_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fdaily-headlines%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=81E001BFD29A0E8B5718AA7FD44468140FCEEACB)** > > Dear Mr. President, ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/15 "2017-01-29T21:36:31Z")
I voted impeachment, but think that it will end more violently. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/16 "2017-01-29T21:40:16Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > If Trump orders the military to carry out illegal actions (war crimes, torture, illegal wars of aggression, etc.) I don’t think that it’s out of the question that the military might remove him and put Pence or Paul Ryan in his place. They have a legal obligation to refuse unlawful orders and if they obeyed him they would be held accountable (and possibly face capital punishment) under his successor. Right. I thought of military coup but forgot to put it in. I think it could also happen if Trump tries to start a crazy war, which is far from impossible. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/17 "2017-01-29T21:42:54Z")
I’m disappointed that the poll didn’t have a choice for his bombasticism might bring on a fatal stroke or heart attack. Or that he’ll resign _without_ being forced to like a kid taking his ball and going home when the other kids are mean to him. How would the 25th work? It deals with filling a vacancy, not removal itself. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/18 "2017-01-29T21:44:56Z")
Other - He’ll complete his term and it will take the world decades to recover. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/19 "2017-01-29T21:50:22Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I’m disappointed that the poll didn’t have a choice for his bombasticism might bring on a fatal stroke or heart attack. Or that he’ll resign _without_ being forced to like a kid taking his ball and going home when the other kids are mean to him. Yes, he’s old enough that it would be no surprise if he simply died in office. I did not include choices that might make it seem I was wishing him personal misfortune of that nature. > [@](#): > > How would the 25th work? It deals with filling a vacancy, not removal itself. \*\* Section 4 Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.\*\* Basically, they would say he is mentally incapacitated and no longer able to fulfill his duties. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/20 "2017-01-29T21:53:56Z")
[A compilation of tweets from rueful Trump voters](https://twitter.com/trump_regrets?lang=en). These people deserve a big slap in the face for being so stupid. But they also deserve a hug for finally coming to their senses. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525.md?page=2)