# How do you think this whole Trump thing is going to end? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525 "2017-01-29T20:59:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/21 "2017-01-29T21:55:32Z")
Voted Other, as in a coronary or stroke or such. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/22 "2017-01-29T22:00:27Z")
I personally don’t believe we have until 2018. I don’t believe we can withstand 6 more months of this unbridled, petulant, breathtakingly ignorant behavior by the Pustule-In-Chief. The best thing we’ve got going is insurrection and continual dissent by regular citizens, now (finally) purely outraged at what sits in the Oval Office, flipping the bird at the entire world. Even his faithful voters are beginning to feel a sense of unease. I, too, have confidence that the corporate oligarchy will not stand for much of this chaotic garbage and agree with **Aeschines** on this point. They will bring their pressure to bear to further their profit guarantees – but not before they get what they want from Trump: The destruction of all regulations in their way to rape the planet in whatever ways they choose and eliminate all obstacles to pure profit. Once the EPA is gutted, bank and financial institution regulations eliminated, tax law rewritten to favor only the wealthy, they will instruct their minions to take “immediate” action to get rid of Trump. Absent such pressure, I have little to no confidence in the so-called “establishment” Republicans to clean up their own mess. I still don’t think of Paul Ryan as an “establishment” Republican, even though that is what he has become. He was the Tea Party darling when he first arrived in Congress. He remains loyal to his immature Ayn Rand philosophy to this day. Mitch McConnell echoed Obama today, finally saying what is true: These kinds of immigration orders make us less safe – not more. Cowardly old hypocrite he is. McCain and Graham with their faint condemnations. Nope, these guys are not going to do much. As citizens, in my mind we must do battle on two fronts: First, against Trump himself and the henchmen he has installed in his administration; and second, against the corporate oligarchy that helped install him (fossil fuels, health insurance and drug companies among others). And we must do it vigorously, in every way we can. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/23 "2017-01-29T22:01:21Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [A compilation of tweets from rueful Trump voters](https://twitter.com/trump_regrets?lang=en). > > These people deserve a big slap in the face for being so stupid. But they also deserve a hug for finally coming to their senses. There are those who explain their teachable moment, and admit that they now realize they were conned, and those are the voters that I feel we can reach. We shouldn’t hold it against them that they were conned, now that they can admit it themselves. There are those who continue to applaud 45’s efforts, and those can never be reached, and there are those who still have yet to realize how they were fooled, and those are the one for whom the continual mocking of trump is beneficial. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/24 "2017-01-29T22:06:29Z")
The odds are that Trump finishes his term. Unless the Democrats take over the House in two years (and the math says they won’t), impeachment won’t even get out of committee. Republicans are willing to tolerate Trump so they can get their agenda into place. It will be a disaster for most Americans. But the rich will be happy, and they pay Congress to ignore what anyone else wants. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/25 "2017-01-29T22:17:23Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > They will bring their pressure to bear to further their **profit guarantees** – but not before they get what they want from Trump: The destruction of all regulations in their way to rape the planet in whatever ways they choose and eliminate all obstacles to pure profit. What “profit guarantees”? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/26 "2017-01-29T22:17:41Z")
At a certain point, Trump is more of a liability to the GOP in the office than out of it. He won’t make four years. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/27 "2017-01-29T22:30:03Z")
I think Assassination should be on that list. I think it’s more likely than that he will be impeached or forced to resign. The Republican party likes Donald Trump. They’re not going to do anything to stand up to him. I think it’s about 50-50 whether he’s assassinated by government agents from the CIA/FBI/NSA or lone terrorists. I think the best case scenario for the Republicans is that Trump gets assassinated in 2019, and Republican anger carries over to the 2020 election. That way the Republicans can continue their gerrymandering of the 2020 census and President Pence can institute martial law. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/28 "2017-01-29T22:36:07Z")
I didn’t realize getting rid of a President could be so easy compared to impeachment > [@](#): > > Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. All Congress has to do is create a “Commission on Presidential Competency,” fill it with three people who can be counted on to do the “right thing,” and presto, Pence is POTUS. ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/29 "2017-01-29T22:43:47Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I personally think he will be out of office by the end of the year. Would you care to bet money on this? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/30 "2017-01-29T22:46:54Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What “profit guarantees”? Things such as: Rewriting the ACA to remove impediments to their profits, to reduce their risk by reinstating preexisting conditions clauses and the like. Look for removal of the 20% limit for profit/administrative costs, for sure. Health insurance companies are already busily rewriting the ACA at the behest of Trump. Removal of EPA regulations that require costly reviews of their practices to determine if they will sufficiently comply with remediation of collective environmental concerns, plus the costs of any remediation itself. No worries; it’s only the air you breathe, the water you drink and the planet you live on. Getting rid of the few oversight regulations the Obama Administration managed to enact over the finance industry, such as Dodd-Frank and the Volcker Rule. If you think any of these actions have something to do with anything _other_ than a guaranteed increase in their profits, then that strikes me as very naive or willfully ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/31 "2017-01-29T23:09:25Z")
One more thought. I fully expect to see terrorist attacks on Trump properties around the world, starting very soon. It will be interesting to see how The Unhinged One reacts to this. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/32 "2017-01-29T23:43:40Z")
Not a Trump fanboy but oddly enough I think in the end it will be a good thing. Trump is showing in a crazed bull in the china shop way you can actually cut the Gordian knots on ossified policies that people though were untouchable. We have way too many semi-sacred policy cows that need to be seriously modified if they are going to work (like ACA) and some entitlements. If progressives are going to prevail they need to learn how to communicate to the working classes, get their base off it’s ass and voting in higher percentages, and stop allowing not so great candidates like HRC to be run up the flagpole by the party poobahs. Trump will be the catalyst for that. Re Trump’s future looking at his track record so far where he’s kinda-sorta getting his way so far on stuff people said was impossible I think he’ll finish his 4 years. Every time he’s done something “outrageous” people think “This is it! This is the end!” and really… it’s not. The Muslim ban thing is pissing a lot of people off, but I’ll bet a lot of the US, probably a majority in fact, are thinking “Good! It’s about time!”. Trump may be a vainglorious, thin skinned jackass but he understands his base and so far is acting on (in general) on his promises. ---
**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/33 "2017-01-29T23:54:44Z")
He seems to be getting all his presidenting done in the first month so he can spend the rest of his term on the golf course. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/34 "2017-01-30T00:04:07Z")
in tears. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/35 "2017-01-30T00:13:45Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY5qWFiiUWk) ---
**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/36 "2017-01-30T00:22:26Z")
…no ‘via crazed/sane assassin’ votes? ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/37 "2017-01-30T00:29:19Z")
Maybe the vast number of changes will result in a vaster number of legal challenges. And then the court systems will be overwhelmed. And then agencies are left in chaos, unsure as to what laws they are enforcing. And then the White House becomes frustrated with the gridlock and attempts to solve the problem by replacing judges that don’t automatically uphold the “reforms.” And then… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/38 "2017-01-30T00:30:23Z")
I don’t think that Trump will last the four years. There will be a ‘health scare’ or something and he will resign. The travel ban is only getting publicity because it’s so broad. Previous presidents have ordered travel bans with nary a squeak. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/39 "2017-01-30T00:54:00Z")
Finishes term, minor problems ----- so I went “Other”. Being like our 4th or 5th “illegitimate POTUS” in a row (even if the most extreme example of the term) and seeing that not much in terms of terribly awful happened under any of the others I figure we’ll survive if a little worse for the experience. And so will he for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/40 "2017-01-30T01:53:14Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > . . . I fully expect to see terrorist attacks on Trump properties around the world, starting very soon. It will be interesting to see how The Unhinged One reacts to this. Horrible thought, and I sure hope not. I want a “loyal opposition,” not a terrorist uprising. We need to take the moral high ground against this monster, not become monsters ourselves. However…I’m terribly afraid you’re right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525.md?page=3)