# How do you think this whole Trump thing is going to end? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525 "2017-01-29T20:59:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/101 "2017-01-31T15:51:17Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > :smack: > No, that’s what some conservatives\* said that liberals were saying. I’m not aware of any serious allegations to that effect about Bush the Lesser. I’ve seen a couple of right-wing pundits say that about Obama… No, I had one leftist friend who tried to convince me that was going to happen. I was not convinced, no matter how much I though Bush was dip and Cheney was a jackass. This time I am far from sure that they won’t attempt it. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/102 "2017-01-31T16:33:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This is how I see it, too. I’m coming around to that view, myself. As bad as it is, still preferable to nuclear armageddon, which I see as a distinct possibility with that fuckwit in charge. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/103 "2017-01-31T20:34:46Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > . . . Oh wait that’s what Bush II was suppose to do before he left office. It was also said of Clinton and Obama, and a few even said it of Bush I and Reagan. And Richard Nixon was going to trigger a high-level nuclear alert to divert attention from his prospective impeachment. (The JCOS took that one seriously enough, they added a diverting order to his ability to issue military commands.) ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/104 "2017-01-31T20:44:20Z")
[Wag the Dog](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog) basically ran with that premise in 1997, and was in turn based on a [book from 1993](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog_(novel))that explicitly referred to Bush I. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/105 "2017-01-31T22:25:40Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I wonder if we could bring back some traditional methods? I was thinking ‘hog tied, tarred and feathered then run out on a rail’, perhaps with some rotten tomatoes thrown in for good measure. Could we still do that? I figured ‘dipped in honey and buried neck deep in a fire ant hill’ would be a bit over the top… Is a [meat hook](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Benito_Mussolini) traditional enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/106 "2017-01-31T22:45:15Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > There’s a zero percent chance of Trump getting impeached. He’s giving the GOP the dream chance to be everything they are but were too afraid to show until now. There’ll be no outcry about Muslim bans or torture or rolling back minority or LGBT protections or a “Papers, please” immigration policy or dismantling a free press because these things are all part of the modern GOP DNA. It’s not that they’re the Party of Trump now, it’s that they always have been but used to feel like they had to pretend otherwise. You’ll get the occasional impotent dissent much like when a party has the votes they need so they let a few guys vote against to look “independent” but Ryan & McConnell will continue to suck Trump’s dick not because they’re being forced to but because they like it. I don’t know about this. All that he’s done so far is partisan things he’s prepared for, the question is how does is act when he’s hit with the unexpected. Say Russia takes over Ukraine and a number of Americans are killed in the attack, but Trump sticks with his good friend Putin. A hurricaine sweeps through Georgia and Suuth Carolina, but Trump’s dismantled FEMA. Trump being monumentally ineffectual in a crisis could drive his poll numbers down into low numbers even among heartland conservatives. The Republicans can get their agenda rubber stamped under Pence just as easily as they can under Trump, and won’t be adverse to eating their own if he becomes a liability. That said I think the most likely scenario is we muddle through for the next 4 years and then see where we are then. ---
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/107 "2017-01-31T23:45:49Z")
I voted “Other”. I believe some patriot…errrr…crackpot will take a shot at him and possibly be successful. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/108 "2017-02-01T06:03:02Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > :smack: > No, that’s what some conservatives\* said that liberals were saying. I’m not aware of any serious allegations to that effect about Bush the Lesser. I’ve seen a couple of right-wing pundits say that about Obama… As someone who went to college in the dark years of the Bush administration and was a daily poster on Democratic Underground and Daily Kos, so many people pretty much assumed the PATRIOT Act was the initial wading into the water for Bush into seeing how much power he could accrue and that he would create another false-flag as a result to permanently remain in power (or at least his cronies). In fact if you look at a lot of fictional political works of the day, so many had Bush analogs suddenly seize complete power through a second 9/11 and then make America a dictatorship. The entire backstory of the movie “V for Vendetta” was changed to make the main bad guy more of a Bush analog and adding a false-flag aspect to it. You also have to remember Bush being in power was when the American left and the libertarian right made an unspoken alliance as resistance to Bush and his neocons. Because of this 9/11 conspiracy theories and FEMA Death Camps ran rampant in left-wing circles and websites and people such as Oliver Stone and Michael Moore praised Alex Jones and his websites for reporting what few in the mainstream press did such as opposition to our Wars for Oil and decrying Corporate Welfare. I distinctly remember when posting a PrisonPlanet link on a message board didn’t automatically make you a kook since at the time they were also reporting a lot about police brutality and other police state excesses when no one else did. You can look at old reddit threads the day of the 2008 Obama election and people were still afraid Bush was going to pull some last minute shenanigans to prevent Obama from winning and/or cancel the election. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/109 "2017-02-01T12:49:17Z")
I fear Trump will get so frustrated that he gives up and totally disconnects from the job. We’ve all seen somebody in our work place do that. They clock in and just go through the motions. They don’t give a fuck about anything except getting home at the end of the day. Trump may do that if he decides it’s impossible to govern and get anything done. He’s under such a microscope right now. Every move he makes is endlessly analyzed and criticized. That’s got to be very frustrating. He comes from the construction and business world where his decisions are final. No second guessing. If he wants Italian marble in the new lobby then that’s what will be installed. The US can’t function without a fully engaged President. There’s too many crises and political challenges to sit on the sidelines. But that may happen during Trump’s final two or three years in office. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/110 "2017-02-01T13:09:20Z")
How do you think this whole Trump thing is going to end? Difficult to tell right now. In any event, not well. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/111 "2017-02-01T13:28:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I fear Trump will get so frustrated that he gives up and totally disconnects from the job. > > We’ve all seen somebody in our work place do that. They clock in and just go through the motions. They don’t give a fuck about anything except getting home at the end of the day. > > Trump may do that if he decides it’s impossible to govern and get anything done. He’s under such a microscope right now. Every move he makes is endlessly analyzed and criticized. That’s got to be very frustrating. He comes from the construction and business world where his decisions are final. No second guessing. If he wants Italian marble in the new lobby then that’s what will be installed. > > The US can’t function without a fully engaged President. There’s too many crises and political challenges to sit on the sidelines. But that may happen during Trump’s final two or three years in office. I was thinking about that myself. This must be a very different experience for Trump who must be used to being put on a pedestal by his corporate subordinates. He’s likely not used to the idea that he can be criticized. Repeatedly. By a lot of people. And he can’t fire them. _nuclear launch detected_ Or can he? (I’m kidding of course) (Or am I? Dun dun dun!) On the other hand, although we can be pretty sure based on his speech patterns and belief systems that Trump is not a brilliant man, I don’t think he is a complete fool either. And he did make it through the primaries and election through withering criticism. So I’m not sure sure that endless protests will demoralize him as much as we might think. It depends on his level of self-awareness. If he really believes his own hype, then no. If he’s a regular human with some degree of personal introspection then maybe. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/112 "2017-02-01T14:41:57Z")
I think that he will, fairly quickly, do something so patently stupid, with remorseless denial, that a Regent will have to be appointed, like those other retarded 8-year-olds who inherited kingdoms in days of yore. Something like Reagan in his later Alzheimers-sricken years, or the final years of Woodrow Wilson, stripping them of the power to do harm, without formally administering the 25th Amendment, but retaining the honor of the office. Even WBush might have never actually been the president, just the front man taking the flak for the Cheney-Rove-Rumsfeld administration. There are ways to quietly and secretly just work around the presidency, regardless of who formally bears the title. The electorate may not even be aware of it. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/113 "2017-02-01T14:43:00Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > The Nixon route: once impeachment and conviction are highly likely, he’ll resign. +1 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/114 "2017-02-01T14:44:21Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > I think that he will, fairly quickly, do something so patently stupid, with remorseless denial, that a Regent will have to be appointed, like those other retarded 8-year-olds who inherited kingdoms in days of yore. > > Something like Reagan in his later Alzheimers-sricken years, or the final years of Woodrow Wilson, stripping them of the power to do harm, without the 25th Amendment, but retaining the honor of the office. > > Even WBush might have never actually been the president, just the front man taking the flak for the Cheney-Rove-Rumsfeld administration. There are ways to quietly and secretly just work around the presidency, regardless of who formally bears the title. The electorate may not even be aware of it. His name is Steve Bannon, and we’re already there. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/115 "2017-02-01T15:02:20Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I fear Trump will get so frustrated that he gives up and totally disconnects from the job. > > We’ve all seen somebody in our work place do that. They clock in and just go through the motions. They don’t give a fuck about anything except getting home at the end of the day. > > Trump may do that if he decides it’s impossible to govern and get anything done. He’s under such a microscope right now. Every move he makes is endlessly analyzed and criticized. That’s got to be very frustrating. He comes from the construction and business world where his decisions are final. No second guessing. If he wants Italian marble in the new lobby then that’s what will be installed. > > The US can’t function without a fully engaged President. There’s too many crises and political challenges to sit on the sidelines. But that may happen during Trump’s final two or three years in office. Presidenting is hard? Who’da thunk it? ---
**Author:** ![race\_to\_the\_bottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@race\_to\_the\_bottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/race_to_the_bottom)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/116 "2017-02-02T06:11:20Z")
Nobody has ever told Trump stuff he shouldn’t do, so he just goes ahead. Kicking the chair of the JCOS and the DNI off the National Security Council AND putting his Neo-Nazi puppetmaster Bannon on there is incredibly stupid. He insults people like McCain and needlessly pisses off all kinds of people. Then there is the Muslim thing which DID NOT include Saudi Arabia!!! Don’t we ALL know who is financing all the jihadi shit around the world? Saudi should have been target numero uno. He includes Iran simply because he hates Iran. EVERYBODY knows that Iran has been fighting the jihadis in Syria. Complete disaster! ---
**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/117 "2017-02-02T18:13:04Z")
I agree with “he’s going to rant and rave himself into a stroke.” Then Pence will take over for the remaining 3 years, 11 months. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/118 "2017-02-03T14:19:01Z")
Definitely needed assassination, death by natural causes, and resigns on that list. At least over civil war. My thinking is health related issue. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/119 "2017-02-03T14:38:15Z")
Everything that goes wrong will be blamed on liberal agitators and protesters and media bias and obstructionists, who will be held at fault for the failure of Trumps ingenious and perfectly well-thought-out objectives which would otherwise have made the world a paradise for everyone. This blame movement will be so successful, that the Democratic Party will be marginalized, and America will continue into future administrations as a one-party state. (This is already being made clear in my forwarded emails.) In other words, the time has now come for the Oligarchy to finally progress to its end stage, or rather, its natural stasis. After which humanity will again be torn apart by centuries of emerging resistance to the oligarchy. These are the end times. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525/120 "2017-02-03T17:34:25Z")
I still say that amicable resignation is much more likely than impeachment. Remember that the GOP is delighted with gutting the EPA, gutting bank regulation, gutting the federal bureaucracy and gutting even the State Dept. This is all stuff their puppeteers wanted to do; they just never dreamt the American public would tolerate such gross malice. Since this massive sellout to the kleptocracy will not be repealed under a President Pence, what is the incentive for the Democrats to join in a conviction vote in the Senate? Instead, by making a deal with the Devil they might salvage something for the country they’d never get under Pence. The GOP won’t dare try to impeach Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-think-this-whole-trump-thing-is-going-to-end/778525.md?page=5)