# How does Hogwarts find the kids like Hermione Granger?

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**Created:** [August 18, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-hogwarts-find-the-kids-like-hermione-granger/593223 "2011-08-18T21:20:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-hogwarts-find-the-kids-like-hermione-granger/593223/21 "2011-08-21T01:03:34Z")

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You ask Jeremy Irons if he has any unacknowledged children he’d like to give a boost. Or is that how you find Emma Watson?

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-hogwarts-find-the-kids-like-hermione-granger/593223/22 "2011-08-21T03:29:32Z")

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> How does Hogwarts find the kids like Hermione Granger?

Not a fan of the series, but I though you meant Emma Watson specifically. In other words, how do they find tomboyish young brats who turn out to be unbelievably gorgeous pieces of ass!! 😃

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-hogwarts-find-the-kids-like-hermione-granger/593223/23 "2011-08-21T03:54:03Z")

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With unibrows.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-hogwarts-find-the-kids-like-hermione-granger/593223/24 "2011-08-21T12:09:53Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Fanwank: They didn’t just not believe him: They _wanted_ to not believe him. They were afraid of what they’d find so they didn’t look.
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> Real reason: Rowling hadn’t thought of and introduced the idea of pensieves to the story yet. There are a number of times throughout the series where you have to sort of let the wool be pulled over your eyes (the timeturners, for example, perhaps the most devastatingly powerful magical items ever mentioned in the stories and one was given to a 13-year old girl so she could take a few extra classes - good thing they were so conveniently destroyed during the Battle of the Department of Mysteries - you’d think the baddies would have been after a handful of those so they could go Terminator II on all the good guys).

i don’t think that’s much of a fanwank, the books pretty clearly spell out that fudge is in denial about voldemort’s return and, like you said, he simply doesn’t want to believe harry’s story.

and unless i’m being whooshed, the pensieve had in fact been introduced by the end of goblet of fire, when voldemort’s return occurs. harry himself takes a dive into dumbledore’s memories and witnesses the trials of bellatrix lestrange, igor karkaroff, and barty crouch junior, among others, earlier in the book.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-hogwarts-find-the-kids-like-hermione-granger/593223/25 "2011-08-21T13:45:23Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Also keep in mind that the trace will only activate if a _spell_ is used, not just magic in general, otherwise Harry would have received a letter for what he did at the zoo. This is a contradiction in the books, because it was Dobby’s magic that got him the warning and house elves aren’t supposed to use the same kind of magic wizards do (but then, Dobby was /trying/ to get Harry into trouble so maybe they’re capable of both).

Actually, that’s not a contradiction; according to kiddie Snape, before you get a wand and start training, the ministry accepts you have no control over your magic; they only follow incidents up after you start training. As the zoo incident was before Harry even knew he was a wizard, they wouldn’t be sending him a letter.

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