# How does Milo Yiannopoulos exist, exactly? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298 "2016-07-19T08:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/181 "2017-02-02T19:41:04Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Whether its the Greek clown or a Louis Farrakhan, they should still have a forum to be heard \*\* in an educational setting\*\* where their views can be deconstructed. The antidote to bad speech is more speech. Pretending bad ideas don’t exist does more harm than good. This already exists. Their ideas can be heard and discussed in classrooms, in the cafeterias, in the dorms, and elsewhere. Are you suggesting that David Duke should be invited to speak at colleges? If so, then why not me? Where’s my invitation? Why don’t I get a megaphone? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/182 "2017-02-02T19:41:12Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > And who gets to decide who or what a bigot is? > > Who gets to decide who or what a racist is? We do. People like Milo are the reason black churches get burned and their parishioners shot. [Conservatives forget history in discrediting Trump protesters](http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/305749-republicans-employ-double-standard-to-discredit) ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/183 "2017-02-02T19:44:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This already exists. Their ideas can be heard and discussed in classrooms, in the cafeterias, in the dorms, and elsewhere. > > Are you suggesting that David Duke should be invited to speak at colleges? If so, then why not me? Where’s my invitation? Why don’t I get a megaphone? If you want to study racism straight from the horses mouth… ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/184 "2017-02-02T19:45:34Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > We do. No you don’t. You have no power. I, and others like me are in charge, not you. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/185 "2017-02-02T19:46:26Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > If you want to study racism straight from the horses mouth… There are plenty of video and audio recordings of such assholes’ speeches and performances. Those can be studied at length. There is no need to offer these assholes a free platform… and if there is, why them and not me? What is special about hate that makes it such a priority to provide them with a free megaphone? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/186 "2017-02-02T19:47:27Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > No you don’t. > > You have no power. > > I, and others like me are in charge, not you. Crush their skulls! KILL KILL KILL!!! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/187 "2017-02-02T19:50:05Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > No you don’t. > > You have no power. > > I, and others like me are in charge, not you. You’re barely in charge of the lunch money mommy gives you, sunshine. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/188 "2017-02-02T19:52:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > There are plenty of video and audio recordings of such assholes’ speeches and performances. Those can be studied at length. There is no need to offer these assholes a free platform… and if there is, why them and not me? What is special about hate that makes it such a priority to provide them with a free megaphone? I am simply arguing that all speech should be heard in university. All speech. Inviting speakers does not imply agreement with them. Should we deny a true believer Maoist a chance to be heard? After all, Maoist crimes dwarf anything that happened in the South. I’ll say it again…its about hearing as many viewpoints as possible. And none of them should get paid. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/189 "2017-02-02T19:54:01Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I am simply arguing that all speech should be heard in university. All speech. Inviting speakers does not imply agreement with them. Should we deny a true believer Maoist a chance to be heard? After all, Maoist crimes dwarf anything that happened in the South. I’ll say it again…its about hearing as many viewpoints as possible. And none of them should get paid. Why do Duke and the Maoist get invitations, but I don’t? What’s special about them or their ideologies? Are you saying that colleges should _prioritize_ inviting bigots and Maoists (and/or other extreme ideologies) over other speakers? Or are you saying that they should invite people at random? Obviously they can’t invite everyone, since they have limited time and space. So how should they choose who to invite? ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/190 "2017-02-02T19:57:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Why do Duke and the Maoist get invitations, but I don’t? What’s special about them or their ideologies? Are you saying that colleges should _prioritize_ inviting bigots and Maoists (and/or other extreme ideologies) over other speakers? Or are you saying that they should invite people at random? Obviously they can’t invite everyone, since they have limited time and space. So how should they choose who to invite? Because you’re boring, unknown and have no interesting ideas. If you did, perhaps you too can get invited to speak someplace. Being invited to speak somewhere is not a human right. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/191 "2017-02-02T19:58:14Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Being invited to speak somewhere is not a human right. So you’re saying there’s no right for bigots to be invited to colleges? Or are you saying CRUSH THEIR SKULLS? ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/192 "2017-02-02T20:01:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So you’re saying there’s no right for bigots to be invited to colleges? > > Or are you saying CRUSH THEIR SKULLS? Don’t let facts get in the way of your delusions. Milo was invited to speak. Milo did not demand to speak. And yes, next time, I would definitely like to see the police using live rounds and doing whatever necessary to protect innocent people from leftist nazis that are assaulting people and destroying property. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/193 "2017-02-02T20:02:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Why do Duke and the Maoist get invitations, but I don’t? What’s special about them or their ideologies? Are you saying that colleges should _prioritize_ inviting bigots and Maoists (and/or other extreme ideologies) over other speakers? Or are you saying that they should invite people at random? Obviously they can’t invite everyone, since they have limited time and space. So how should they choose who to invite? Offer yourself. Why doesn’t a conservative like Shodan? The simple answer is that conventional views are commonly heard. Unless you are being blocked from speaking, I am not sure what your point is. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/194 "2017-02-02T20:14:13Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Offer yourself. Why doesn’t a conservative like Shodan? The simple answer is that conventional views are commonly heard. Unless you are being blocked from speaking, I am not sure what your point is. Would my argument change if I had been sending emails to the UC administration every day for the past year? I don’t think so. If a university cannot be selective of speakers based on past things they have said, then what basis can they use? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/195 "2017-02-02T20:17:04Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Don’t let facts get in the way of your delusions. > > Milo was invited to speak. > > Milo did not demand to speak. > > And yes, next time, I would definitely like to see the police using live rounds and doing whatever necessary to protect innocent people from leftist nazis that are assaulting people and destroying property. I think the Dope has a new fantasist in the house! Welcome! Don’t worry. Your fantasies may be of molasses, or honey (like another prominent Doper fantasist), or syrup, or perhaps blueberry compote, but rest assured that we Dopers are a tolerant bunch, and whatever sweet substance you wish to drizzle over the bodies of the men you most desire (are firemen your thing? perhaps burly police officers? sweaty construction workers?), we won’t judge. We want all Dopers, and all people, to be welcome to think about and even live out their fantasies, as long as they are between consenting adults. You may be spreading these arguments to try and keep these fantasies at bay, but don’t worry! There’s nothing wrong with all that you desire. Fantasize away, baby! You be you, my blueberry-guzzling friend! You find those lovely men you seek, and you enjoy all that nature has to offer together! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/196 "2017-02-02T20:22:18Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Why do Duke and the Maoist get invitations, but I don’t? What’s special about them or their ideologies? Are you saying that colleges should _prioritize_ inviting bigots and Maoists (and/or other extreme ideologies) over other speakers? Or are you saying that they should invite people at random? Obviously they can’t invite everyone, since they have limited time and space. So how should they choose who to invite? The invitation fro Milo came from a recognized conservative group on campus. You want to get invited? Write a book, articles, appear on TV. Do something to let people know you exist and that you have an interesting point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/197 "2017-02-02T20:23:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I think the Dope has a new fantasist in the house! Welcome! > > Don’t worry. Your fantasies may be of molasses, or honey (like another prominent Doper fantasist), or syrup, or perhaps blueberry compote, but rest assured that we Dopers are a tolerant bunch, and whatever sweet substance you wish to drizzle over the bodies of the men you most desire (are firemen your thing? perhaps burly police officers? sweaty construction workers?), we won’t judge. We want all Dopers, and all people, to be welcome to think about and even live out their fantasies, as long as they are between consenting adults. You may be spreading these arguments to try and keep these fantasies at bay, but don’t worry! There’s nothing wrong with all that you desire. Fantasize away, baby! > > You be you, my blueberry-guzzling friend! You find those lovely men you seek, and you enjoy all that nature has to offer together! I’m not gay, but if I were, I would definitely prefer somebody like Milo. Milo is one of the best gays to currently exist on the planet. All other gays pale in comparison to Milo. The other gays have no balls, and many of them are ignorant mental cases, such as sucking up to people and cultures that wish to murder them. At the end of the day, as long as good gays like Milo survive, then I am content with that outcome, and I don’t really care too much about the other gays. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/198 "2017-02-02T20:25:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Would my argument change if I had been sending emails to the UC administration every day for the past year? I don’t think so. If a university cannot be selective of speakers based on past things they have said, then what basis can they use? You are basically arguing for silencing unpopular speakers. This goes against the very idea of a university. Depending on the era, it could be used to not hear civil rights advocates or draft dodgers. Should we not invite an Al Queda member? Donald Trump? Its important to hear fringe voices so we can both understand them and understand why they belong on the fringe. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/199 "2017-02-02T20:26:04Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > The invitation fro Milo came from a recognized conservative group on campus. You want to get invited? Write a book, articles, appear on TV. Do something to let people know you exist and that you have an interesting point of view. I have written a couple of books (and I would be GLAD to sell them to you :)), but that’s not really my point. My point was about whether colleges and universities should be obligated to invite bigots to speak – and if so, only bigots? Or any extremists? Or anyone at all? As for this particular case, campus organizations can invite anyone they like, and students can protest if they wish. Peaceful protesting is fine, violence (such as that exhibited by a small number of assholes at this protest) is not. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/200 "2017-02-02T20:26:05Z")
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