# How does Milo Yiannopoulos exist, exactly? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298 "2016-07-19T08:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/221 "2017-02-02T20:43:52Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > If necessary, sure. Your new best friend magellan01! ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/222 "2017-02-02T20:44:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yes! Use fire! And pitchforks! And napalm! Kill them! EAT THEIR BABIES!! I love eating baby back ribs, but I’m not too sure if I would like eating human baby back ribs. Why do I have to eat the babies? Can’t I at least make a profit too, and perhaps sell the body parts for maximum profit like planned parenthood does? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/223 "2017-02-02T20:47:26Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > I love eating baby back ribs, but I’m not too sure if I would like eating human baby back ribs. > > Why do I have to eat the babies? > > Can’t I at least make a profit too, and perhaps sell the body parts for maximum profit like planned parenthood does? YES! Kill them, eat them, sell them! ENSLAVE THEM! HARNESS THEIR SOULS! ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/224 "2017-02-02T20:52:13Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Does he ask for debates? Or does he just stand on a stage and sound off? Because those aren’t the same thing.Unlike Yiannopoulos, right? Anybody is welcome to come to his events and they can even ask him questions and give comments later on in the Q & A. What happens most of the time though is that leftists are not interested in debate. They are interested in shouting as loudly as they can, smearing red paint on their faces, pulling fire alarms and causing a disruption, doing everything that they can to get the event cancelled. He has mentioned before that he is willing and wants to debate somebody who is on the opposite side, but nobody so far has come forth, which is not surprising to me. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/225 "2017-02-02T20:53:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Until “the right” starts standing up and denouncing these alt-right shitbags LOUDLY, I will simply continue to believe that they are one and the same. > > The silence and acceptance of Trump’s recent lunacy among the establishment right commentators and politicians is simply proof that they love and accept his actions. Well some of them ARE denouncing these alt right douchebags. Does everyone on the right have to denounce them? If the left doesn’t stand up and denounce left wing douchebags, does that mean they are one and the same? Don’t get me wrong. The right tolerates a certain amount of racism. Its the faustian bargain they made to gain majorities in congress. But they are embarrassed by the alt right AFAICT. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/226 "2017-02-02T21:04:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > YES! Kill them, eat them, sell them! ENSLAVE THEM! HARNESS THEIR SOULS! Troll harder! You’ve almost got him. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/227 "2017-02-02T21:06:14Z")
> [@Nauplius](#): > > Troll harder! You’ve almost got him. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/228 "2017-02-02T21:08:10Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > Don’t discount the possibility that Milo was behind the violent protests. I wouldn’t discount it, in that if it came out that was the case, I would not be surprised, but I wouldn’t make that assumption without a bit more evidence. Now, that these agitators were not part of the student population that was participating in the protest does seem to have quite a bit of evidence behind it, so, blaming the students for the violence is not exactly fair there. > [@Bricker](#): > > As long as you’re equally sanguine when an opposing side shuts down a speaker you like with such tactics, then I’m ok with it. We are talking about the non-violent tactics presented in the post you were responding to, right? Then yes, if there are enough non-violent protestors, in person or online that a speaker decides that their message would not be well received and decides to cancel, or even if a university realizes through the peaceful protest that the speaker would be more across the line into inflammatory territory than simply controversial, it does not matter if I agree with the speaker or the protestors, that’s how speech works. Freedom of speech does not mean that you have a right to demand a platform upon which to speak. > [@octopus](#): > > Check our privilege? Oh boy, listen BigT, your simpleminded advocation of violence employed against those exercising fundamental rights is stupid and shortsighted. Do you want a violent response to the violent protest? You realize that BigT was talking about violence in the past that has been used for “noble” purpose. He did indicate that it is possible that such things are possible to be needed in the future, maybe even near future, and I hope that he is wrong. Violence was used in the american revolution, the civil war, civil rights movements, unionizing movements, and many other examples of wars or violent protests that caused society to advance towards a more perfect state of freedom for its people. Not that it is a good thing, or a thing to be lauded or a thing to be striven for in any way, but sometimes, you really are down to your last resort. At this time in history, the effect of violence will almost certainly be worse than anything that you might be violent about, so I will agree that violence is not justified in any of the activities happening these days, but to just dismiss violence as _never_ having a place is naive. Remember, oppression is peaceful. Those who disturb that peace are labeled troublemakers at the time, but are often regarded as heroes against oppression at a later date. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/229 "2017-02-02T21:08:56Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > And who gets to decide who or what a bigot is? > > Who gets to decide who or what a racist is? The dictionary has definitions for these words. > [@](#): > > Certainly not the left, because in their eyes, practically everybody that they don’t like is called a homophobe, racist, bigot, islamophobe nazi or a number of other funny names. The left may be applying these terms too loosely (and sometimes just in an effort to shut down debate) but racism is a real thing. AFAICT, Milo falls into that category of gay men who are extremely sexist. I thought this was just gay men of my generation but apparently there is still a lot of sexism among gay men (as there probably is among lesbian women). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/230 "2017-02-02T21:35:41Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > The problem here is that you can then equate ‘the left’ with violent unlawful anarchist protesters rather than understand that both are outliers. No, because I (and others) DENOUNCE violent unlawful anarchists. We don’t cheer them on. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/231 "2017-02-02T21:39:01Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > But they are embarrassed by the alt right AFAICT. I’m really not getting that impression, when recognized groups (Republican campus group) are inviting alt-right trolls to speak on their campus. I’m not getting the impression that the Republicans in congress are embarrassed by Bannon. They are lining up to kiss his ring. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/232 "2017-02-02T21:42:42Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > When campus Democrats start inviting (and paying; these speeches are rarely given for free) Black Bloc members to speak at sponsored events, this will be a reasonable comparison. Campus democrats just burn property and assault people. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/233 "2017-02-02T21:48:55Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > What **iiandyiiii** said. > > There are important differences between “silencing speech” and simply declining to invite someone to give a paid speech. If you don’t grasp this distinction, just let me know and i’ll be happy to explain it to you. And who are you to dictate to others whom they can invite? Such arrogance! You probably have 0 problem with professors with odious and hateful left wing endorsed speech being employed by the same universities. Damn bubble dwelling hypocrites. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/234 "2017-02-02T21:52:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I have written a couple of books (and I would be GLAD to sell them to you :)), but that’s not really my point. My point was about whether colleges and universities should be obligated to invite bigots to speak – and if so, only bigots? Or any extremists? Or anyone at all? > > As for this particular case, campus organizations can invite anyone they like, and students can protest if they wish. Peaceful protesting is fine, violence (such as that exhibited by a small number of assholes at this protest) is not. Noone is saying the universities are obligated. It’s unlike you to be this intellectually dishonest. Usually you argue from a position of integrity. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/235 "2017-02-02T21:56:26Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Campus democrats just burn property and assault people. Huh, apparently I did college wrong. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/236 "2017-02-02T21:59:53Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Campus democrats just burn property and assault people. Cite that the violent offenders in this instance were campus Democrats? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/237 "2017-02-02T22:00:55Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > And who are you to dictate to others whom they can invite? Such arrogance! You probably have 0 problem with professors with odious and hateful left wing endorsed speech being employed by the same universities. Damn bubble dwelling hypocrites. So stating opinions is now dictating? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/238 "2017-02-02T22:02:07Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Noone is saying the universities are obligated. It’s unlike you to be this intellectually dishonest. Usually you argue from a position of integrity. That’s specifically what we were discussing in this exchange. That is specifically the topic I was asking about. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/239 "2017-02-02T22:08:20Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That’s specifically what we were discussing in this exchange. That is specifically the topic I was asking about. Who is saying the university is obligated to invite? That’s completely irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/240 "2017-02-02T22:19:07Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Campus democrats just burn property and assault people. That can be read and interpreted to mean that this is all (aka solely) what they do. Do you stand by that statement, or will you walk it back because its such an easily provable an Alt-Truth? :dubious: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=13)