# How does Milo Yiannopoulos exist, exactly?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 19, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298 "2016-07-19T08:46:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/241 "2017-02-02T22:19:52Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Who is saying the university is obligated to invite? That’s completely irrelevant.

If you want to go back in the thread and read the whole exchange me and the other poster were having, feel free. Or if you want to make a point or challenge anything I posted, feel free.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/242 "2017-02-02T22:47:19Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Campus democrats just burn property and assault people.

People dressed in Black Bloc outfits who shout “We are anarchists!” while turning what was a peaceful protest into a riot are _Democrats_. Got it.

You fucking moron.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/243 "2017-02-02T22:52:50Z")

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So, the gay guy who only dates Black men is a bigot, the rioters were of the right leaning variety and no one is trying to suppress free speech?

Do y’all honestly believe the things y’all type?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/244 "2017-02-02T22:58:04Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So, the gay guy who only dates Black men is a bigot,

Who someone chooses to date says pretty much nothing about whether they might have some bigoted beliefs.

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> the rioters were of the right leaning variety and no one is trying to suppress free speech?

Who said the rioters were conservative? They were assholes. Most of the protesters were peaceful, but a few violent assholes ruined it.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/245 "2017-02-02T23:07:43Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> People dressed in Black Bloc outfits who shout “We are anarchists!” while turning what was a peaceful protest into a riot are _Democrats_. Got it.
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> You fucking moron.

You kiss your goat with that mouth?

> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So, the gay guy who only dates Black men is a bigot, the rioters were of the right leaning variety and no one is trying to suppress free speech?
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> Do y’all honestly believe the things y’all type?

Yes. Yes, they do.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/246 "2017-02-02T23:19:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You kiss your goat with that mouth?

Still waiting for your cite that the violent offenders in this instance were campus Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/247 "2017-02-02T23:21:07Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Who someone chooses to date says pretty much nothing about whether they might have some bigoted beliefs.

He’s a part of one of the left’s “oppressed” groups and exclusively dates people apart of another one of the left’s “oppressed” groups. Sure, anyone and everyone holds some kind of “bigotted” beliefs, but the contention here was that Milo is a bigot. And I’m curious as to how one figures that.

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> Who said the rioters were conservative? They were assholes. Most of the protesters were peaceful, but a few violent assholes ruined it.

Icarus said he wouldn’t discount it.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/248 "2017-02-02T23:23:07Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> He’s a part of one of the left’s “oppressed” groups and exclusively dates people apart of another one of the left’s “oppressed” groups. Sure, anyone and everyone holds some kind of “bigotted” beliefs, but the contention here was that Milo is a bigot. And I’m curious as to how one figures that.

Based on things that he’s said. Many things. I don’t know what’s in his, or anyone’s, heart, but he has said many bigoted things. I think it’s reasonable to call someone who says many bigoted things, without apologizing for them, a bigot.

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> Icarus said he wouldn’t discount it.

That’s a bit different than what you said. But hey, exaggerate and hyperbolize away, if you like. I won’t pretend that there isn’t plenty of that from liberal Dopers as well.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/249 "2017-02-02T23:56:20Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> And who are you to dictate to others whom they can invite? Such arrogance! You probably have 0 problem with professors with odious and hateful left wing endorsed speech being employed by the same universities. Damn bubble dwelling hypocrites.

The stupid is strong with this one.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/250 "2017-02-03T00:01:44Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> When you look at the large pool of liberals, sure. But when you restrict that pool to the liberals on a particular campus, it’s much. much bigger and not small.

I have zero proof of course, but this little controversy was spread far and wide before the fact. I strongly suspect you’re dealing not with the pool of 38,000 UC Berkeley students, but rather the pool of 7.65 million San Francisco Bay Area residents. Sadly we do have our share of anarchist whackadoos that are happy to BART over from SF or drive up from San Jose to smash shit ( I’ve personally known a couple such misguided idiots when I was in college ).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/251 "2017-02-03T02:03:53Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Who is saying the university is obligated to invite? That’s completely irrelevant.

You know the university didn’t invite anyone? 'Twas a campus club.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/252 "2017-02-03T02:52:08Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> As long as you’re equally sanguine when an opposing side shuts down a speaker you like with such tactics, then I’m ok with it.

I’m copacetic about it. Under freedom of speech and association _we_ (on both sides) in turn have ways to make the venues who back down in the face of peaceful, if confrontational, protest know what \*we \*think of _that_.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/253 "2017-02-03T03:19:42Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> I’m not gay, but if I were, I would definitely prefer somebody like Milo.
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> Milo is one of the best gays to currently exist on the planet.
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> All other gays pale in comparison to Milo.
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> The other gays have no balls, and many of them are ignorant mental cases, such as sucking up to people and cultures that wish to murder them.
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> At the end of the day, as long as good gays like Milo survive, then I am content with that outcome, and I don’t really care too much about the other gays.

Milo is an awful human being, one who delights in hurting others. How does this make him one of the “best gays?”

Who ranks them?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/254 "2017-02-03T03:22:53Z")

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> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> The other gays have no balls, and many of them are ignorant mental cases, such as sucking up to people and cultures that wish to murder them.

As opposed to “only” wanting them put into conversion camps or mental institutions? And that doesn’t even consider what the “alt right” wants.

Seems a little hypocritical and ironic to use this as a defense.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/255 "2017-02-03T06:50:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You know the university didn’t invite anyone? 'Twas a campus club.

Yes. That was my point. I was saying that iiandyiiii’s assertion about university’s being obligated was irrelevant.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/256 "2017-02-03T07:29:36Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> The problem here is that you can then equate ‘the left’ with violent unlawful anarchist protesters rather than understand that both are outliers.

Ehhhh… No.

See, it would be one thing if those violent, unlawful, anarchist protesters were running the show. If our president got his start from being in those protests, and on his way to the white house constantly showed them his good side, and then hired the leader of the violent unlawful anarchsist protester group to run his campaign, then upon winning inserted that same leader to various important institutional positions.

But that just ain’t it.

The alt-right could be literally just made up of just 10 people, and the right would still have to answer for them because two of those people are the President of the United States and one of his most trusted advisors, who has (probably illegally) been placed on the national security council. Like it or not, this is an incredibly powerful fraction of the party, and it’s on the right to rein them in, or accept being represented by them.

> [@Blinkyandpinky](#):
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> It is the anti-intellectual left that is terrified of debating him,

There is as much point to “debating” that shitstained troll as there is to “debating” _this_ shitstained troll, and the sooner he crosses the line and gets banned, the fucking better. Until then, I gently recommend the “ignore” button.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> The invitation fro Milo came from a recognized conservative group on campus. You want to get invited? Write a book, articles, appear on TV. Do something to let people know you exist and that you have an interesting point of view.

“Interesting point of view”?

You mean like that campuses were better off without women on them?

Or that we should drop the “T” when talking about LGBT rights?

Or that he “chose” to be gay?

Or that he wishes he could choose not to be gay?

Perhaps next we can do a live panel at a university with someone reading lines from a thread on 4Chan /b/.

> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> So, the gay guy who only dates Black men is a bigot,

> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> He’s a part of one of the left’s “oppressed” groups and exclusively dates people apart of another one of the left’s “oppressed” groups. Sure, anyone and everyone holds some kind of “bigotted” beliefs, but the contention here was that Milo is a bigot. And I’m curious as to how one figures that.

Not a hard issue to understand. You could be a Homeless Transgender Black Muslim Lesbian with jewish heritage, and if you say shit like, “Is being homosexual “wrong”? Something somewhere inside of me says Yes,” _you’re still a bigot_! Although this would explain you quite a bit - you do realize that the fact that you’re black doesn’t actually mean that any given thing you say is automatically unbigoted, right?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/257 "2017-02-03T10:01:49Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Yes. That was my point. I was saying that iiandyiiii’s assertion about university’s being obligated was irrelevant.

It was relevant to the particular exchange I was having with another poster.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/258 "2017-02-03T10:05:45Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Milo is an awful human being, one who delights in hurting others. How does this make him one of the “best gays?”

Based on his hopes for skulls to be crushed, **Blinky** ’s a big fan of hurting others.

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**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/259 "2017-02-03T10:35:51Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Milo is an awful human being, one who delights in hurting others. How does this make him one of the “best gays?”
> 
> Who ranks them?

You don’t have to agree with me.

That is my own ranking.

You are welcome to make your own ranking and put whoever you want on your list.

I also believe that he is mocking all of the right groups and people that should be mocked, as they are the ones who are terrible people.

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**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/260 "2017-02-03T10:39:14Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Based on his hopes for skulls to be crushed, **Blinky** ’s a big fan of hurting others.

No, it is more correct to say that I am a big fan of self defense.

It is groups like the antifa thugs and the black clad cowards that are the violent animals.

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