# How does Milo Yiannopoulos exist, exactly? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298 "2016-07-19T08:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/361 "2017-02-21T17:23:50Z")
He has announced a press conference today at 3 to discuss his future with Breitbart. I would love it if no one showed up to cover the troll looking for more attention. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/362 "2017-02-21T17:30:07Z")
I would love it if no one but Breitbart showed up. It has symmetry. Kind of baffling that this guy thinks his losing his job (or not) is worthy of a press conference. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/363 "2017-02-21T17:43:36Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Why? > > No, really, why? > > Does the existence of a person who is basically a human embodiment of 8chan /pol/ crossed with the youtube comments section and a bucket of yak semen actually improve the world in any way? I mean, if it comes to that, I don’t really improve the world much, either. Hopefully, that’s not the standard. But mostly I hope Milo doesn’t kill himself because, while I think he’s destructive, I also think he’s personally damaged, and now we know why. I hope he finds help and I hope gets peace, just as I hope that’s what people hope for me. > [@](#): > > I’m not going to give them credit for this, though, because they never should have given him a book deal to begin with. Fucking tools. Simon & Schuster were always only doing it because they thought they could make money from it. I’m not sorry to see it blow up in their faces. I don’t fault them for wanting to make money in a capitalist system nor do I fault the people who wanted to boycott S&S over it. I don’t object to Milo publishing his book, either, even if it were a defense of NAMBLA. (I haven’t read his book so have no real opinion on the content.) He’ll probably self-publish (I expect he needs the money.) I’m fine with that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/364 "2017-02-21T17:52:02Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Why shouldn’t they, other than the fact that you dislike his opinions? There may be many out there who would be interested to see what he has to say, whether they agree with him or not. Should they be denied the opportunity to read him? It’s a free country and Simon & Schuster may publish or not publish as they please. Clearly they thought the pains weren’t worth the profit on this one, and profits there would certainly have been. No big deal, he’ll find another publisher but I’m sure you’ll think they shouldn’t touch him either. > > Do you honestly believe that only books of which you approve should find a publisher? I still don’t get this argument, since it seems like an unknowing advocacy of the exact kind of restrictions on free speech that at the same time it appears to be trying to criticize. Milo’s critics absolutely, 100%, have the right to challenge and criticize and organize boycotts against publishers and venues who try to make money off his bigotry. Milo has the absolute and 100% guaranteed right to say whatever he wants in public (short of violent threats and normal/constitutional speech restrictions), and so do his critics, including “if you publish Milo’s work, or profit off his speaking, then I won’t do business with you any more, and I’ll advocate that others also not do business with you”. All of that (which does not include any violence) is allowed. Saying any of it isn’t, or shouldn’t be, is contrary to free speech. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/365 "2017-02-21T18:03:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I still don’t get this argument, since it seems like an unknowing advocacy of the exact kind of restrictions on free speech that at the same time it appears to be trying to criticize. Milo’s critics absolutely, 100%, have the right to challenge and criticize and organize boycotts against publishers and venues who try to make money off his bigotry. Milo has the absolute and 100% guaranteed right to say whatever he wants in public (short of violent threats and normal/constitutional speech restrictions), and so do his critics, including “if you publish Milo’s work, or profit off his speaking, then I won’t do business with you any more, and I’ll advocate that others also not do business with you”. > > All of that (which does not include any violence) is allowed. Saying any of it isn’t, or shouldn’t be, is contrary to free speech. He should take his writing to a baker and demand it be placed on a cake. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/366 "2017-02-21T18:05:30Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > He should take his writing to a baker and demand it be placed on a cake. Yeah, and if that baker does hate cakes on a regular basis, he wouldn’t have any grounds to refuse him. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/367 "2017-02-21T18:06:43Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > He should take his writing to a baker and demand it be placed on a cake. Sure – if there are bigotry bakers out there, they wouldn’t be able to refuse him, since their business is cakes for bigotry. EDIT: Ninja’d! ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/368 "2017-02-21T18:12:50Z")
Mmmmm… [bigotry & hate cake](http://giphy.com/gifs/season-5-the-simpsons-5x21-l2Je3iiQnYP12vsnS). ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/369 "2017-02-21T18:14:49Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You’re just being dishonest. Nope, I quoted you accurately. You are on record in this very thread as complaining about the intrinsic “arrogance” of people trying to “dictate” to others whom they may invite as a speaker. And now you hypocritically don’t want to apply the same standard to the “arrogance” of conservatives trying to “dictate” to the ACU whether they should keep Yiannopoulos as one of the invited speakers at CPAC. So you’re moving the goalposts to pretend that all you’ve expressed concern about is violence at protests and/or some alleged obligations of public universities in particular. Sad! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/370 "2017-02-21T18:27:16Z")
Everybody has the right to express their opinions. Nobody has a right to someone else’s private platform. For instance, as much as the world would benefit :eek: from my being on every network and cable channel for a half-hour every evening to share my extensive 😛 wisdom 😛 😛 with everyone, I have no _right_ of access to those platforms. The former sure gets confused with the latter with great regularity. And in this Internet era where anyone can find multiple ways of exposing audiences of decent size to at least a snippet of their opinions, it’s harder than ever to be bothered when some nutcase is denied access to some platform or another. ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/371 "2017-02-21T18:30:16Z")
Milo is still awesome in my book. Milo, who is not even American, has done more for free speech and his work against political correctness than the entire useless impotent GOP has done for decades. His numerous talks on college campuses have done a lot to expose the fascist left for what they truly are. I’ll side with Milo any day of the week over the Never Trumpers that have been out to get him. Evan McMuffin, the idiot pinhead and failed candidate is supposedly behind some of the smears and is connected to the groups that have been orchestrating attacks against Milo. Those Never Trumpers are worse than liberals, and that’s saying a hell of a lot, because I don’t exactly think very highly of liberals. They will get what’s coming to them in due time I would assume. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/372 "2017-02-21T18:33:50Z")
Guess what!!!.. Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/373 "2017-02-21T18:39:02Z")
Has there ever been a better and braver gay person than Milo? I would be hard pressed to think of who that might be. Milo puts all cookie cutter, predictable, not so very bright and indoctrinated leftist gays to shame. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/374 "2017-02-21T18:48:21Z")
You’re a fucking idiot. At least try to be an informed one: [Harvey Milk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Milk). ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/375 "2017-02-21T18:55:35Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > You’re a fucking idiot. No, he’s a fucking troll. And not even attempting to hide it at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/376 "2017-02-21T18:58:44Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Milo is still awesome in my book. > > Milo, who is not even American, has done more for free speech and his work against political correctness than the entire useless impotent GOP has done for decades. His numerous talks on college campuses have done a lot to expose the fascist left for what they truly are. > > I’ll side with Milo any day of the week over the Never Trumpers that have been out to get him. > > Evan McMuffin, the idiot pinhead and failed candidate is supposedly behind some of the smears and is connected to the groups that have been orchestrating attacks against Milo. > > Those Never Trumpers are worse than liberals, and that’s saying a hell of a lot, because I don’t exactly think very highly of liberals. > > They will get what’s coming to them in due time I would assume. oh. so. edgy. i. might. cut. myself. on. the. so. edgy. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/377 "2017-02-21T19:02:30Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I mean, if it comes to that, I don’t really improve the world much, either. Hopefully, that’s not the standard. > > But mostly I hope Milo doesn’t kill himself because, while I think he’s destructive, I also think he’s personally damaged, and now we know why. I hope he finds help and I hope gets peace, just as I hope that’s what people hope for me. You are exactly right. I want people not to commit suicide not because their lives improve the world but because I want them to be at peace. It’s not for what it does for me, but for what it means for them. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/378 "2017-02-21T19:07:33Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > I’d say he mostly doesn’t believe much of what he says. He’s discovered a profitable niche, being a token right wing gay. He’s milking it for all its worth getting paid for his speaking tours and articles. He’s a shameless opportunist. How does he sleep at night? probably the same way that Martin Shkreli famously answered “ambien”. Pretty much. There are a few shameless opportunists IRL who make money being what on an Internet message board would be called a “troll”. Just like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh and their ilk, Milo is about as genuine as the fake plastic vomit that you can buy at a novelty store. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/379 "2017-02-21T19:10:28Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Has there ever been a better and braver gay person than Milo? > I would be hard pressed to think of who that might be. > > Milo puts all cookie cutter, predictable, not so very bright and indoctrinated leftist gays to shame. Would you buy his book? ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/380 "2017-02-21T19:30:00Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Would you buy his book? He would now have to find a new publisher of course. I have seen some of his talks on youtube, so I do already know what he’s about, but my answer would be, perhaps, if I found the content to be interesting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=20)