# How does Milo Yiannopoulos exist, exactly? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298 "2016-07-19T08:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/461 "2017-02-22T05:53:14Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Yes, the reason is that what you are talking about wasn’t a thing until a few days ago, yet the hatred for the man began as soon as he became prominent a couple years ago. > > I’ve seen time and time again the Left going against people whose cause they putatively own; it’s group dynamics, the one thing In-groups hate more than the Out-Group is people the “betray” the In-Group. For example BLM adherents calling a black person that doesn’t align with them an Uncle Tom. > That type of dynamic is true for most, if not all ideological groups, Left, Right, doesn’t matter; what they also have in common is that they also absolutely hate this to be pointed out. > [@Ale](#): > > Some because they love how he riles some people up, some because they need to feel outraged, some because they can sort through the chaff to find something of value on what he says, etc, etc… > > He is a controversy monger, he thrives on it and he is not alone in the business; that’s why I think that the relevant variable is that his flamboyantly gay persona is accepted by people on the right, and that makes him dangerous to people on the left that derive political capital from painting themselves as the LGBT friendly side, the idea that a person can be gay and on the right threatens their demographics. I suppose it’s just a convenient coincidence that your argument automatically invalidates ANY other reason anyone might have for disagreeing with anyone, huh? :dubious::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/462 "2017-02-22T05:53:38Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Some because they love how he riles some people up, some because they need to feel outraged, some because they can sort through the chaff to find something of value on what he says, etc, etc… > > He is a controversy monger, he thrives on it and he is not alone in the business; that’s why I think that the relevant variable is that his flamboyantly gay persona is accepted by people on the right, and that makes him dangerous to people on the left that derive political capital from painting themselves as the LGBT friendly side, the idea that a person can be gay and on the right threatens their demographics. …nobody gives a flying fuck about his “flamboyantly gay persona”. You are in a thread with plenty of people who have given their opinion about Milo. Name one person who hates him because of his “flamboyantly gay persona.” Name a single one. They do give a flying fuck about the articles that he writes, about the hate speech that he espouses, about the the hate mobs that he incites. Stop trying to guess what people think. We’ve told you what we think. Read our words. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/463 "2017-02-22T05:54:51Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …nobody gives a flying fuck about his “flamboyantly gay persona”. You are in a thread with plenty of people who have given their opinion about Milo. Name one person who hates him because of his “flamboyantly gay persona.” Name a single one. > > They do give a flying fuck about the articles that he writes, about the hate speech that he espouses, about the the hate mobs that he incites. Stop trying to guess what people think. We’ve told you what we think. Read our words. Dollars to doughnuts that **Ale** thinks that everyone is lying. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/464 "2017-02-22T06:23:28Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > I think that the relevant variable is that his flamboyantly gay persona is accepted by people on the right, and that makes him dangerous to people on the left that derive political capital from painting themselves as the LGBT friendly side :dubious: Dangerous? Nonsense. It has always been crystal clear that right-wingers were tolerating Yiannopoulos solely because he was pissing off the liberals, not because they gave a rat’s ass about actually supporting acceptance and full civil rights for LGBTQ people. In fact, one of the reasons they found Yiannopoulos tolerable is that he’s pretty disdainful about acceptance and full civil rights for LGBTQ people too. Don’t get me wrong: I’d be thrilled if mainstream conservatism **did** decide to embrace genuine LGBT-friendliness and stop all these bullshit attacks on marriage equality and transgender rights and LGBT-headed families behind a smokescreen of “religious liberty”. Any “political capital” that liberals may actually get out of not being homophobic bigots (and tbh I doubt it’s really all that much) would be a trivial issue compared to the importance of finally attaining full civil rights and social acceptance for LGBTQ people. But it’s a moot point, because we’re nowhere near the happy day when conservatives in general **will** genuinely support full civil rights and social acceptance for LGBTQ people. And liberals have always been fully aware of that. Believe me, despite what your wishful thinking may suggest to your imagination, conservatives did **not** suddenly start looking principled and compassionate and “LGBT friendly” just because they briefly took up with an attention-whoring Nazi-propitiating malicious racist misogynist troll who liked to call himself a faggot. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/465 "2017-02-22T06:52:05Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > :dubious: Dangerous? Nonsense. It has always been crystal clear that right-wingers were tolerating Yiannopoulos solely because he was pissing off the liberals, not because they gave a rat’s ass about actually supporting acceptance and full civil rights for LGBTQ people. In fact, one of the reasons they found Yiannopoulos tolerable is that he’s pretty disdainful about acceptance and full civil rights for LGBTQ people too. > > Don’t get me wrong: I’d be thrilled if mainstream conservatism **did** decide to embrace genuine LGBT-friendliness and stop all these bullshit attacks on marriage equality and transgender rights and LGBT-headed families behind a smokescreen of “religious liberty”. Any “political capital” that liberals may actually get out of not being homophobic bigots (and tbh I doubt it’s really all that much) would be a trivial issue compared to the importance of finally attaining full civil rights and social acceptance for LGBTQ people. > > But it’s a moot point, because we’re nowhere near the happy day when conservatives in general **will** genuinely support full civil rights and social acceptance for LGBTQ people. And liberals have always been fully aware of that. > > Believe me, despite what your wishful thinking may suggest to your imagination, conservatives did **not** suddenly start looking principled and compassionate and “LGBT friendly” just because they briefly took up with an attention-whoring Nazi-propitiating malicious racist misogynist troll who liked to call himself a faggot. Milo is a contrarian. He admits as much. In one of his writings he said that he started homosexual acts cause he knew it would piss off his parents. He found he liked it better than straight sex; which he had also had. He is no more a representative LGBT community than a 20th century White Eugenicist was for advancement of coloured people just because he was proud of his minute Red Indian ancestry. Frankly, ignore the fucker. He’ll land on his feet and doubtless find some other medium to get attention; which is the first last and only thing he cares about; he would join ISIS if he thought that would keep him in the news. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/466 "2017-02-22T09:17:31Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I suppose it’s just a convenient coincidence that your argument automatically invalidates ANY other reason anyone might have for disagreeing with anyone, huh? :dubious::rolleyes: How so? > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …nobody gives a flying fuck about his “flamboyantly gay persona”. You are in a thread with plenty of people who have given their opinion about Milo. Name one person who hates him because of his “flamboyantly gay persona.” Name a single one. > > They do give a flying fuck about the articles that he writes, about the hate speech that he espouses, about the the hate mobs that he incites. Stop trying to guess what people think. We’ve told you what we think. Read our words. Where did I even suggested that anyone here hates him for being gay? It really takes a lot of chutzpah to then tell me to read your words. I do wonder though if your hatred for the man is not based on similar uncharitable interpretations of what he says. My opinion is that he gets an extra level of venom and vitriol thrown his way because he is saying things a gay man shouldn’t be saying, it throws a wrench in the Identity Politics works. It’s not just him, I have observed the same being done against other people that don’t do or think what is expected of them. I gave the example of a black person being called an Uncle Tom for not agreeing with BLM, on the same vein I’ve seen transexuals attacked as being transphobic, a Muslim called a “House Muslim”, women denounced as being traitors to their gender, etc… all because they fail to validate the ideological position that \*“As a _insert identity here_ I believe in this or that”.[/I when they voice opposing beliefs. In the case of Yiannopoulus it’s a double whammy, as I said, him as a gay man shouldn’t be saying those things, and right wingers shouldn’t be welcoming a gay man among them, it runs against the stereotype, the horror! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/467 "2017-02-22T09:28:22Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I mean, if it comes to that, I don’t really improve the world much, either. Hopefully, that’s not the standard. Well, you’re probably not a net negative. > [@BigT](#): > > You keep acting like the guy was just some Internet troll who no one was listening to until liberals got upset at him. That’s just not the case. > > It’s not even really accurate to call him a troll. He’s a provocateur, yes. But he isn’t just saying whatever will make people upset at him. He is pushing forth a political movement–the alt-right. He is a sort of leader in that movement, in as much as they can be said to have leaders. > > So, yes, of course liberals would get upset at him. What he was saying was truly awful, and people were actually buying it. He created group harassment campaigns against quite a few people because they dared be anti-racist or whatever. He championed death threats as freedom of speech. > > These type of people do not just go away because people ignore them. And ignoring them doesn’t prevent them from getting more and more followers. > > The correct response is exactly what happened. Liberals got upset at him, and used the tools at their disposal to attack him. Without doing anything illegal, they tried to limit his influence. Debating him was pointless, since he didn’t come to his positions rationally, nor did his followers. So, instead, they appealed to the decency of others to try and get him discredited and shut down his ability to be influential. > > And the end result appears to be that it worked. The guy even lost his job at Breitbart. He’s lost his book deal. He’s lost his influence that he worked so hard to build up in the shadows, before liberals were paying attention. > > In short, liberals attacked him not because they got some sort of perverse pleasure out of it, but because it works. Not taking these people seriously doesn’t. > > DNFTT only works if no one is listening to them. A troll that can get people on his side needs other methods to stop him. Fucking cosigned. > [@octopus](#): > > Why not debate it? I disagree that any topic is unworthy of debate. Now it can be a simple to win debate but it doesn’t hurt to debate it. Imho, of course. Your mother is a whore and your rights should be taken away because you’re a bastard child. …Aw, what’s that, you don’t want to debate me on that? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/468 "2017-02-22T10:21:45Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Why not debate it? I disagree that any topic is unworthy of debate. Now it can be a simple to win debate but it doesn’t hurt to debate it. Imho, of course. Because time is a finite resource. There are an almost unlimited amount of bigots and crazy people out there; debating the vast majority is a total waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/469 "2017-02-22T11:29:06Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Where did I even suggested that anyone here hates him for being gay? “People don’t hate you because you’re mutants, they hate you because you’re assholes!” --Spider-Man to the X-Men (after Spidey got caught up in one of their stupid psychodramas) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/470 "2017-02-22T11:44:37Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The correct response is exactly what happened. Liberals got upset at him, and used the tools at their disposal to attack him. Without doing anything illegal, they tried to limit his influence. Debating him was pointless, since he didn’t come to his positions rationally, nor did his followers. So, instead, they appealed to the decency of others to try and get him discredited and shut down his ability to be influential. > > And the end result appears to be that it worked. The guy even lost his job at Breitbart. He’s lost his book deal. He’s lost his influence that he worked so hard to build up in the shadows, before liberals were paying attention. Except I don’t think it did. All the previous stuff; the stuff that liberals focused on to bring Milo down; Gamergate, the harassment of Leslie Jones, the protests at Berkeley, that one writer cancelling her book deal with Simon and Schuster because they were publishing his book, and so on, none of that hurt him at all. If anything, all that helped him, because his supporters were glad he was pissing people off. What brought him down is that he gave an interview where he made comments that sounded pro-pedophilia, which pissed his own supporters off. That wasn’t anything that liberals did, though. It wasn’t that liberals appealed to the decency of others and it wasn’t even that liberals shouted louder until Milo was drowned out. In the end, liberals didn’t bring down Milo. Milo did. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/471 "2017-02-22T11:52:15Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > My opinion is that he gets an extra level of venom and vitriol thrown his way because he is saying things a gay man shouldn’t be saying, it throws a wrench in the Identity Politics works. You’re in the right county but on the wrong road. Milo isn’t just gay: he performs publicly in a gay minstrel show. Strands of pearls, limp-wristed gestures, exaggerated crooning vocal styling–he flames it up when he’s on-stage. There’s a good reason for this. Lots of homophobes HATE to imagine that they’re actually homophobes. Seeing someone who says all the things they love to believe, while also mincing and prancing their way around a stage? It simultaneously validates their stereotypes and gives them an out for charges of bigotry (“I can’t be homophobic, some of my best invited speakers are gay!”) To the extent that Milo receives pushback from the left for his sexual identity, I think it’s for this minstrelsy he engages in. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/472 "2017-02-22T12:02:35Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Where did I even suggested that anyone here hates him for being gay? …“the relevant variable is that his flamboyantly gay persona is accepted by people on the right, and that makes him dangerous to people on the left that derive political capital from painting themselves as the LGBT friendly side, the idea that a person can be gay and on the right threatens their demographics.” My reference to “flamboyantly gay persona” should have made it crystal clear exactly what I was talking about. This “cabal on the left” that “derive political capital from painting themselves as the LGBT friendly side” doesn’t exist outside of your feverish imagination. Nobody is threatened. > [@](#): > > It really takes a lot of chutzpah to then tell me to read your words. It takes a lot of chutzpah to make the claims you are making in this thread. > [@](#): > > I do wonder though if your hatred for the man is not based on similar uncharitable interpretations of what he says. How do you charitably interpret this? [https://storify.com/freebsdgirl/a-lesson-in-dogpiling](https://storify.com/freebsdgirl/a-lesson-in-dogpiling) I watched exactly what he did. For three years. I watched him incite harassment. I read his hit pieces Harper and Nyberg and his attacks on women and transgenders. > [@](#): > > My opinion is that he gets an extra level of venom and vitriol thrown his way because he is saying things a gay man shouldn’t be saying, it throws a wrench in the Identity Politics works. Your opinion is full of shit. People throw venom and vitriol his way because of what the articles that he writes, about the hate speech that he espouses, about the the hate mobs that he incites. It really is that simple. There are no wrenches. > [@](#): > > It’s not just him, I have observed the same being done against other people that don’t do or think what is expected of them. You haven’t observed jack shit. Where are all these people you’ve observed? Show me a single person that doesn’t like Milo because he is saying things that a “gay man isn’t supposed to be saying.” > [@](#): > > I gave the example of a black person being called an Uncle Tom for not agreeing with BLM, on the same vein I’ve seen transexuals attacked as being transphobic, a Muslim called a “House Muslim”, women denounced as being traitors to their gender, etc… all because they fail to validate the ideological position that \*“As a _insert identity here_ I believe in this or that”.[/I when they voice opposing beliefs. But what exactly leads you to believe that this is what happened here? Where are these people? > [@](#): > > In the case of Yiannopoulus it’s a double whammy, as I said, him as a gay man shouldn’t be saying those things, and right wingers shouldn’t be welcoming a gay man among them, it runs against the stereotype, the horror! Why can’t you simply accept what people have told you? Why invent a conspiracy theory? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/473 "2017-02-22T13:46:43Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …“the relevant variable is that his flamboyantly gay persona is accepted by people on the right, and that makes him dangerous to people on the left that derive political capital from painting themselves as the LGBT friendly side, the idea that a person can be gay and on the right threatens their demographics.” > > My reference to “flamboyantly gay persona” should have made it crystal clear exactly what I was talking about. This “cabal on the left” that “derive political capital from painting themselves as the LGBT friendly side” doesn’t exist outside of your feverish imagination. Nobody is threatened. > > It takes a lot of chutzpah to make the claims you are making in this thread. > > How do you charitably interpret this? > > [https://storify.com/freebsdgirl/a-lesson-in-dogpiling](https://storify.com/freebsdgirl/a-lesson-in-dogpiling) > > I watched exactly what he did. For three years. I watched him incite harassment. I read his hit pieces Harper and Nyberg and his attacks on women and transgenders. > > Your opinion is full of shit. People throw venom and vitriol his way because of what the articles that he writes, about the hate speech that he espouses, about the the hate mobs that he incites. It really is that simple. There are no wrenches. > > You haven’t observed jack shit. Where are all these people you’ve observed? Show me a single person that doesn’t like Milo because he is saying things that a “gay man isn’t supposed to be saying.” > > But what exactly leads you to believe that this is what happened here? Where are these people? > > Why can’t you simply accept what people have told you? Why invent a conspiracy theory? Hey, focus, where did I say that people here hate him for being gay? That quote from me doesn’t say that, does it? Can you admit you were making stuff up? Until you show some intellectual honesty there’s no point in discussing anything with you. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/474 "2017-02-22T14:28:12Z")
Well one charitable interpretation is that he is a mental defective? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/475 "2017-02-22T15:12:10Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Yes, the reason is that what you are talking about wasn’t a thing until a few days ago, yet the hatred for the man began as soon as he became prominent a couple years ago. > > I’ve seen time and time again the Left going against people whose cause they putatively own; it’s group dynamics, the one thing In-groups hate more than the Out-Group is people the “betray” the In-Group. For example BLM adherents calling a black person that doesn’t align with them an Uncle Tom. > That type of dynamic is true for most, if not all ideological groups, Left, Right, doesn’t matter; what they also have in common is that they also absolutely hate this to be pointed out. But you also said this: > [@](#): > > I also suspect the hatred he receives from the Left is in large part due to him being a threat to the Left brand image, an openly gay man being accepted and celebrated by the Right? They are not supposed to do that, that’s our shtick! I think I see the problem here. You see the second paragraph I quoted? The one that starts “I also suspect…”? That’s something you made up. It’s the fascists in the Breit House (clever, no?) who tolerated him until it was no longer politically convenient to do so. Your straw man doesn’t stand up. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/476 "2017-02-22T15:29:46Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, they _claim_ to be. I’m guessing this is just a convenient excuse to let them distance themselves from Yiannopoulos just as he was starting to become a little _too_ embarrassing, and the modern conservative tolerance for embarrassment is pretty damn high. Actually, a bunch of Breitbart staffed threatened to resign if Milo wasn’t canned. I’m sure the conservatives enjoyed employing a gadfly in liberal clothing to piss off the liberals, but his departure was anything but convenient. Milo will still embarrass them while looking for new ways extend his 15 minutes of fame. They can at least keep a nutcase like Sarah Palin at arm’s length, as long as she doesn’t testify to committing crimes against humanity. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/477 "2017-02-22T15:43:52Z")
The worst part for me is seeing all the wannabes auditioning for Milo’s old slot by putting out obnoxious, content-free posts on message boards. I’m sure there’s some sort of standard for outrage they measure themselves against, and it’s irritating to see people padding their resumes for them. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/478 "2017-02-22T16:11:02Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Actually, a bunch of Breitbart staffed threatened to resign if Milo wasn’t canned. I’m sure the conservatives enjoyed employing a gadfly in liberal clothing to piss off the liberals, but his departure was anything but convenient. Milo will still embarrass them while looking for new ways extend his 15 minutes of fame. Well, now I’m just waiting for the alt-right to start claiming that Yiannopoulos was never _really_ a conservative _or_ gay, but just a plant to try to embarrass conservatives. Y’know… a false-fag operation. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/479 "2017-02-22T16:21:06Z")
OK, I have to admit something, and I’m probably going to get roasted big time for this. Milo has become interesting to me. Don’t get me wrong, I tried really, really hard to ignore him. I first heard about him via the GamerGate fiasco. At the time, I thought “Why is this making headlines? It’s just another internet squabble. There’s millions of them. Why give this any more importance than the rest?” So, I dismissed GamerGate as sound and fury, signifying nothing, and it eventually went away. Eventually, Milo’s twitters about Leslie Jones made headlines, and again I thought “Why is this news? Every celebrity has their share of boo birds. So fucking what?” Again, I dismissed it as sound and fury, signifying nothing, and it eventually went away. Now all the sudden Milo is making public speeches, appearing at Republican conventions, earning volumes of hate and derision, but getting more famous. Again, I thought “Why is this troll getting so much exposure? What makes him any more remarkable than the usual one-note trolls who just want to stir shit up?” I haven’t figured out the answer to this yet. It baffles me as much as PewDiePie getting famous for filming himself playing video games. I’ve heard talk of a girl in Brazil who has a YouTube channel that’s just videos of her opening new toys and playing with them. She picked up sponsors from toy manufacturers and is making millions. I’ve published games and books on the web and so far, I’ve made a whopping 70 cents in royalties. How is this random person resonating with the rest of the world enough to get so rich? I was born long before the Internet age and didn’t grow up in the culture like these people, so maybe it’s just impossible for me to connect. So, all I really know about Milo is what I’ve read here, and it’s mostly negative. I’ve tried my best to ignore him, but he’s ubiquitous. Somehow, despite all the hate, Milo found his place in history. \*Now \*he’s interesting. If taken in a humorous context, would his comments have a similar feel to dialogue from a show like _Absolutely Fabulous_? The main characters are horrible bitches that say some really scandalous and racist shit, casually alluding to criminal acts and despicable sexual congress, but it’s funny when they do it. Milo could easily be a character from that show. “Don’t disparage religion, darling. I learned how to give great head from my priest.” ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/480 "2017-02-22T16:28:19Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > So, I dismissed GamerGate as sound and fury, signifying nothing, and it eventually went away. > > … > > Again, I dismissed it as sound and fury, signifying nothing, and it eventually went away. > > … > > So, all I really know about Milo is what I’ve read here, and it’s mostly negative. I’ve tried my best to ignore him, but he’s ubiquitous. Somehow, despite all the hate, Milo found his place in history. \*Now \*he’s interesting. It’s weird to me that you think GamerGate and the Leslie Jones affair have gone away. They haven’t gone away. They reveal a cancer at the heart of the internet, and the right wing has gleefully denied chemotherapy and radiation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=25)