# How does Milo Yiannopoulos exist, exactly? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298 "2016-07-19T08:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/561 "2017-02-22T22:38:04Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > You could free up a lot of police resources by broadly legalizing drugs. Just saying. That would probably also reduce the number of violent right-wing extremists. Win-win! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/562 "2017-02-22T22:42:37Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 Can you read? I wrote “nonviolent protestor” there, plain as day. > > In what way do you think it is any kind of justifiable “karma” for a **NON** violent protestor at a Yiannopoulos speech to be shot in the stomach by an armed Yiannopoulos fan? > [@octopus](#): > > After several violent protests at Milo’s speeches it’s not surprising that people are ready to defend themselves. And if violence is employed to prevent someone from speaking why shouldn’t violence be used to ensure that he can? > [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > You said it was fine to shoot non-violent protestors because protesters in the past have gotten violent. Those were your words. > [@octopus](#): > > You’re lying too. Sad! Apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/563 "2017-02-22T23:05:55Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Apparently not. Apparently so! And you still can’t read. Or is it your reading comprehension is inspired by Humpty Dumpty? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/564 "2017-02-22T23:06:43Z")
Somebody go lie down. You’re drunk. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/565 "2017-02-22T23:11:21Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Somebody go lie down. You’re drunk. Fine! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/566 "2017-02-22T23:25:56Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Now you’re just lying. no u ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/567 "2017-02-23T00:14:41Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Are you on medication for your serious case of autism? > > No please continue to try to debate me I’m sure it will end well for you. I’m trembling! I should be terrified to engage you. You leap from ad hominem to ad hominem with a tiny dose of mental illness shaming as a bonus. How can reasonable responses prevail against that onslaught? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/568 "2017-02-23T00:17:02Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > As I’m telling iiandyiiii looking ridiculous provides entertainment for many. Who doesn’t like a circus? This is a classic illustration of the ethical bankruptcy of a certain segment of modern conservatism. I mean, we all agree that treating bigotry and bullying and deception and hatred and harassment as a “circus”, an “entertainment” spectacle, is despicable, right? People used to watch executions and freak shows and slaughtering for “entertainment”, too. Nowadays that’s not considered socially acceptable. But apparently there are still conservatives who think that trolling unoffending strangers with vile insults or suggestions that they kill themselves, telling nasty lies about them to half the internet, etc., counts as a form of recreational amusement. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/569 "2017-02-23T00:21:31Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > This is a classic illustration of the ethical bankruptcy of a certain segment of modern conservatism. I mean, we all agree that treating bigotry and bullying and deception and hatred and harassment as a “circus”, an “entertainment” spectacle, is despicable, right? > > People used to watch executions and freak shows and slaughtering for “entertainment”, too. Nowadays that’s not considered socially acceptable. But apparently there are still conservatives who think that trolling unoffending strangers with vile insults or suggestions that they kill themselves, telling nasty lies about them to half the internet, etc., counts as a form of recreational amusement. The hysterical overreaction is entertaining. Who doesn’t like, even as a guilty pleasure, watching anarchists run amok? What’s more popular Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead or staring at happy little flowers on some PBS show? Should Milo be a jackass and personally attack people for their looks? I’m not a fan of that. But ridiculing the excesses of modern liberalism I don’t have a problem with. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/570 "2017-02-23T00:39:04Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Should Milo be a jackass and personally attack people for their looks? I’m not a fan of that. But you are apparently perfectly willing to put up with it because you’re “entertained” by the so-called “hysterical overreaction” to it. Conservatives can’t pretend that “hysterical” liberals are in any way forcing them to subsidize Yiannopoulos’s hateful trolling, misogyny, racism, and deferential glamorizing of Nazis and white supremacists. If you find outrage against hatred and bigotry to be so “entertaining” that you’re willing to tolerate the hatred and bigotry for the sake of the “entertainment”, it’s not the outraged people who are the despicable assholes here. > [@octopus](#): > > What’s more popular Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead or staring at happy little flowers on some PBS show? And apparently you cannot tell the difference between being entertained by _theatrical simulations of fictional conflict_ and being entertained by watching _actual people get hurt in real-life conflict_. Do you watch ISIS decapitation videos for fun, too? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/571 "2017-02-23T01:39:52Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Apparently so! And you still can’t read. Or is it your reading comprehension is inspired by Humpty Dumpty? I’m starting to get worried. You’ve demonstrated that you approve of shooting people for peaceful disagreement, and here I am disagreeing with you. I wish you right-wingers weren’t so violent. You’re a danger to this nation. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/572 "2017-02-23T01:55:44Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > In the full context, this, and your own last paragraph of this post, supports that she was reporting the beliefs of the protesters. The “arguably deserved” aside was silly and she should have left it out, but it doesn’t change the fact that she was reporting, entirely accurately, the beliefs of the protesters who turned violent in the prior paragraph. > > This is also entirely different than your previous defense which only focused on the snipped part of the sentence starting with “entitled”. Either you were totally confused before or you’re not being honest. If you want to go with that interpretation do notice that she “reported” that when Yiannopoulos and his crew had to flee in fear for their safety they were fleeing from the left. _“It’s a wet night in Berkeley, California, and Yiannopoulos is running away from the left”_ If that’s how you want to see the left described, as mob that feels entitled to the use of violence, so be it; I thought I was being charitable in thinking she was just projecting her own feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/573 "2017-02-23T02:02:34Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Apparently so! Ock, Ock, Ock: time for you to suck it up, admit [“I got caught”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20019628&postcount=562), and take your lumps. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/574 "2017-02-23T02:05:13Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > If you want to go with that interpretation do notice that she “reported” that when Yiannopoulos and his crew had to flee in fear for their safety they were fleeing from the left. > _“It’s a wet night in Berkeley, California, and Yiannopoulos is running away from the left”_ > If that’s how you want to see the left described, as mob that feels entitled to the use of violence, so be it; I thought I was being charitable in thinking she was just projecting her own feelings. Your arguments are all over the place to the point that I’m not sure if you even understand them. This is the third different defense of misreading her that you’ve made. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/575 "2017-02-23T02:05:23Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > If you want to go with that interpretation do notice that she “reported” that when Yiannopoulos and his crew had to flee in fear for their safety they were fleeing from the left. > _“It’s a wet night in Berkeley, California, and Yiannopoulos is running away from the left”_ > If that’s how you want to see the left described, as mob that feels entitled to the use of violence, so be it; I thought I was being charitable in thinking she was just projecting her own feelings. So, if she thinks violence is okay, she’s just projecting her own feelings. But if she thinks the left thinks violence is okay, that reflects badly on the left? Awesome. The right is full of troglodytic monsters who elected a buffoon to the presidency because they are genuinely incapable of anything but blind panic and spite. Their racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, insular, and laughable ideas are an embarrassment to humanity, and people snicker about them behind their backs, when they aren’t snickering at them to their faces. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/576 "2017-02-23T02:19:16Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > edit: Ninja’d multiple times… > > Arguably deserved > > Arguably > > Meaning an argument can be made that it is deserved. > > That is not saying that it _is_ justified. Then she even says that if people are actually debating whether its justified to smack you, that should make you think a little bit about your life choices that got you to this point. > > Your claim that she outright says that the threat was justified is false. You are reading it differently by reading it wrongly. You take out the word arguably, which alters the meaning of the quote and makes it easier for you to make your case. Enforcing an ideology through the use of violence is not acceptable, what is there to argue? What’s the trendy word these days?, it _normalizes_ political violence, you (and the writer of that article) may wrap it in as many layers of sophistry as you wish, but that shit still stinks. And seriously, if someone becomes the target of violence it’s probably their own fault? do you have any idea what lies at the bottom of that rabbit hole? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/577 "2017-02-23T02:50:57Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Holy fuck, **Ale** has been posting on the SDMB since 2003 and he’s still this fucking ignorant and stupid? The the zeitgeist of this message board was different back then, even back a couple years, now I see some very worrying ideas bandied around here. Another thing that has changed for me since then is that I’ve seen first hand what those ideas can lead to, it’s not nice to wake up every morning to check what was the body count from last night’s political violence; you know, when bombs go off, bullets fly and people are burned to death a couple blocks from were you live, you start to take a dim view of people who have a cavalier attitude towards the use of violence. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/578 "2017-02-23T03:07:14Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Your arguments are all over the place to the point that I’m not sure if you even understand them. This is the third different defense of misreading her that you’ve made. OK, let’s condense things, from reading that article do you think the author condones or condemns the use of violence to silence people? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/579 "2017-02-23T03:34:47Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I never claimed you said “that people here hate him for being gay” you pedantic twonk. I asked you to “Name one person who hates him because of his “flamboyantly gay persona.”” > > I didn’t make up jack shit. I’m being intellectually honest. Are you going to be intellectually honest? Where are these people that don’t like Milo because he is saying things that a “gay man isn’t supposed to be saying?” _Sigh…_ First frikking post in this thread: > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > No, really. How does this person exist? How has he managed to make it to 30-odd years of life? If I hated an immutable part of my identity that much, I would have killed myself _years_ ago. And yet, here we are, in 2016, shortly after the republicans release a political platform espousing ex-gay therapy, bans on gay marriage and gay parenting, and enabling religious discrimination against homosexuals, hearing (although hopefully not listening to) a gay guy who said he “chose” to be gay _and_ wishes he could be straight - taking one stupid, homophobic position wasn’t bad enough, I guess, he needed both, regardless of how internally inconsistent he is - say “[we’re your gays](http://reason.com/blog/2016/07/18/milo-yiannopoulos-proposed-a-gay-conserv)” to a crowd [containing a non-trivial number of people who want gay people barred from the country](http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/02/guess-how-many-donald-trump-supporters-want-gay-people-barred-from-entering-america/). Classy. Real fuckin’ classy. Hey asshole, you know _why_ LGBT people tend to vote democrat? It’s because most of them haven’t internalized as much self-hatred and bullshit as you have, and aren’t interested in supporting a party that wants them to not exist. > > This same self-hating homophobe wants to [lead a gay pride parade](http://www.therebel.media/milo_yiannopoulos_to_lead_gay_pride_parade_through_muslim_ghetto_in_sweden). Through a Muslim ghetto in Sweden. In other words, the same stunt SD (a Swedish hard-right party) tried to pull a year ago. I’d think you need a little _pride_ for that, and Milo clearly has neither pride nor spine nor basic common decency when it comes to his sexuality, but hey, who gives a fuck, let’s abuse a symbol of inclusiveness and protest to stick it to a disaffected minority! :rolleyes: > > I don’t like myself very much. But this guy… Jeez. How has he not committed suicide? He clearly hates homosexuals a whole awful lot, and benig a homosexual himself, this would imply some serious self-hatred. At least the Log Cabin Republicans had the basic self-respect to condemn the republican platform. Or maybe he’s not really all that bigoted, and he’s just lying for attention. Either way, he’s a terrible fucking person. Maybe it’s the crazy pills kicking in, but if someone suggest a gay man should kill himself for saying things against homosexuality, the big idea is that he, as a gay man, is not supposed to say those things. Of course, YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/580 "2017-02-23T03:47:39Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > So, if she thinks violence is okay, she’s just projecting her own feelings. But if she thinks the left thinks violence is okay, that reflects badly on the left? > > Awesome. The right is full of troglodytic monsters who elected a buffoon to the presidency because they are genuinely incapable of anything but blind panic and spite. Their racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, insular, and laughable ideas are an embarrassment to humanity, and people snicker about them behind their backs, when they aren’t snickering at them to their faces. You left out ‘sadistic’. I didn’t hear a lot of booing from his supporters when he announced his intention to embark on a program of torture and murder. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298.md?page=30)