# How does Milo Yiannopoulos exist, exactly?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 19, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298 "2016-07-19T08:46:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/601 "2017-02-23T09:21:28Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Apparently, [he likes black cock](https://order-order.com/2017/02/22/12-things-wont-read-milo-elsewhere/) (or arse).

God, even the way he says it is racist as fuck.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/602 "2017-02-23T09:22:33Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Apparently, [he likes black cock](https://order-order.com/2017/02/22/12-things-wont-read-milo-elsewhere/) (or arse).

And acts as though that somehow automatically insulates him from being racist. Like I said, it’s the edgy gay version of “some of my best friends are black”.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/603 "2017-02-23T10:37:27Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> OK, let’s condense things, from reading that article do you think the author condones or condemns the use of violence to silence people?

I don’t think she does either of the two.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/604 "2017-02-23T10:41:26Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> :: sigh ::
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> …wrong. Budget points out Milo is a hypocrite. He doesn’ hate him because he is gay but on “the other side.” Try again.
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> As Kimstu points out: nobody should say those things that he does. He was a panelist on a TV Show and he called the other panelists “awful” to their faces. That isn’t fucking normal. Nobody does that.

"He doesn’ hate him because he is gay but on “the other side.” "

You are so busy beating up your strawman you don’t even notice that we are in agreement there.  
I’ve never said he gets hatred just for being gay; I said, repeatedly, he gets an extra dose of venom for being a gay “on the other side”, as you put it.  
That doesn’t mean he isn’t hated for other reasons too, but in addition to those other reason.

He called someone “awful”? OMFG, what a monster.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/605 "2017-02-23T10:43:09Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Apparently, [he likes black cock](https://order-order.com/2017/02/22/12-things-wont-read-milo-elsewhere/) (or arse).

Lots of white men have enjoyed having sex with black people. Doesn’t mean they thought of them as equals.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/606 "2017-02-23T11:17:53Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Lots of white men have enjoyed having sex with black people. Doesn’t mean they thought of them as equals.

Yep. I tend to think that American slave owners weren’t big believers in equality.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/607 "2017-02-23T11:49:43Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> I’ve never said he gets hatred just for being gay; I said, repeatedly, he gets an extra dose of venom for being a gay “on the other side”, as you put it.

I don’t _care_ if he’s gay. It doesn’t affect my opinion of him one bit. If he were a straight man saying that all transgendered people are perverts, that gay people are mentally ill and in need of a cure, that fat people should hate themselves and die, that birth control should be outlawed because white people aren’t outbreeding the brown folks fast enough, and that it’s OK for men to rape underage boys - all of which are _things he has said_ - I would hate him exactly as much as I do right now. No more, and no less.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/608 "2017-02-23T12:01:27Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> "He doesn’ hate him because he is gay but on “the other side.” "
> 
> You are so busy beating up your strawman you don’t even notice that we are in agreement there.  
> I’ve never said he gets hatred just for being gay; I said, repeatedly, he gets an extra dose of venom for being a gay “on the other side”, as you put it.  
> That doesn’t mean he isn’t hated for other reasons too, but in addition to those other reason.

…I asked you to “Name one person who hates him because of his “flamboyantly gay persona.”” You sighed and then answered my question. Did you not intend to answer my question? Then why did you answer my question?

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> He called someone “awful”? OMFG, what a monster.

You missed the point. But considering you can’t actually figure out if you are answering my question or not, that really doesn’t surprise me.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/609 "2017-02-23T12:16:43Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I don’t _care_ if he’s gay. It doesn’t affect my opinion of him one bit. If he were a straight man saying that all transgendered people are perverts, that gay people are mentally ill and in need of a cure, that fat people should hate themselves and die, that birth control should be outlawed because white people aren’t outbreeding the brown folks fast enough, and that it’s OK for men to rape underage boys - all of which are _things he has said_ - I would hate him exactly as much as I do right now. No more, and no less.

Well, goody for you that you just hate him for the things he says (or at least what you think he says) independently of anything else; what I’ve been talking about doesn’t apply to you.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/610 "2017-02-23T12:50:19Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I asked you to “Name one person who hates him because of his “flamboyantly gay persona.”” You sighed and then answered my question. Did you not intend to answer my question? Then why did you answer my question?
> 
> You missed the point. But considering you can’t actually figure out if you are answering my question or not, that really doesn’t surprise me.

That question is a non sequitur, I’ve never claimed that he is hated just for being gay and that is why I’m not interested in answering it.  
Do you understand what you are reading right now? Yes, good, now pay close attention, I have never said that people hate Milo Yiannopoulos just for being gay or just for his “flamboyant gay persona”. Got it now or are you going to keep asking me to find an example of what I never said so that you can have a strawman to play with?

The question I did answer is the second one you asked in the post I was replying to, the one that actually relates to what I have said, namely and I’ll quote you _"Where are these people that don’t like Milo because he is saying things that a “gay man isn’t supposed to be saying?”_

The first post in this thread answers that question as I said in post [#579](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20020135&postcount=579), when I did quote it I thought I made it perfectly clear it was in relation to that second question, obviously that went right over your head.

Do you understand now that you asked me two questions, do you understand that I answered the second one? Do you need me to get a box of crayons and make an explanatory sketch for you?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/611 "2017-02-23T13:20:53Z")

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Yay! We’re at that point in the thread where everyone gets all snooty and “you didn’t answer my question in the way I expected” equals “you are clearly too mentally inferior to answer my question correctly” !

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/612 "2017-02-23T13:30:18Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That is a lie. You consistently and repeatedly say the same lie and that makes it no more true. All it does is demonstrate you can’t discuss a topic honestly. Since there is no law or policy against you lying have at it I suppose.

Please calm down, you’re losing control. The well-known right-wing propensity for violence together with your explicitly stated approval of shooting peaceful left-wing protestors, has me worried for my well-being.

I repeat, please get your emotions under control. I know how upsetting it is for your own actual words to be quoted back at you without any edits, but violence is not appropriate here.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/613 "2017-02-23T13:33:15Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> Well, goody for you that you just hate him for the things he says (or at least what you think he says) independently of anything else; what I’ve been talking about doesn’t apply to you.

Right, because I’m sure no _true_ Scotsman would say what I’ve said, and you thusly dismiss my opinion as if it were some sort of aberration wholly unindicative of liberal thought.

Why don’t you stop casting aspersions, creating strawmen, telling other people what they believe, and actually _defend_ the stated beliefs of your pedophilia-enthusiast golden boy?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/614 "2017-02-23T13:51:00Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Please calm down, you’re losing control. The well-known right-wing propensity for violence together with your explicitly stated approval of shooting peaceful left-wing protestors, has me worried for my well-being.
> 
> I repeat, please get your emotions under control. I know how upsetting it is for your own actual words to be quoted back at you without any edits, but violence is not appropriate here.

Be careful, asking octopus to control his violent impulses may trigger him.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/615 "2017-02-23T13:51:38Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Yay! We’re at that point in the thread where everyone gets all snooty and “you didn’t answer my question in the way I expected” equals “you are clearly too mentally inferior to answer my question correctly” !

Life comes in too fast, now we are the stage of terminal lack of self awareness.  
Observe:

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Right, because I’m sure no _true_ Scotsman would say what I’ve said, and you thusly dismiss my opinion as if it were some sort of aberration wholly unindicative of liberal thought.
> 
> Why don’t you stop casting aspersions, creating strawmen, telling other people what they believe, and actually _defend_ the stated beliefs of your pedophilia-enthusiast golden boy?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/616 "2017-02-23T13:58:17Z")

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I like my observation better - it’s less self-serving.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/617 "2017-02-23T18:06:30Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Please calm down, you’re losing control. The well-known right-wing propensity for violence together with your explicitly stated approval of shooting peaceful left-wing protestors, has me worried for my well-being.
> 
> I repeat, please get your emotions under control. I know how upsetting it is for your own actual words to be quoted back at you without any edits, but violence is not appropriate here.

Not only a liar but a nut! I hope your “economist” role doesn’t require any teaching. You are bad at math and bad at reading comprehension.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/618 "2017-02-23T18:17:11Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Not only a liar but a nut! I hope your “economist” role doesn’t require any teaching. You are bad at math and bad at reading comprehension.

Hey, man, it’s just words on a message board. You don’t need to get so hysterical. So you were accused of lying when you were just being inconsistent and hypocritical. You are right, it’s not the same thing, as a lie requires deliberately distorting the facts, which would require you to actually know or understand them.

It’s not the end of the world that you were misunderstood. I am sure that if you can go crawl into your safe place with your blankie, you’ll calm down enough to have a productive conversation again, eventually.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/619 "2017-02-23T18:40:47Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Hey, man, it’s just words on a message board. You don’t need to get so hysterical. So you were accused of lying when you were just being inconsistent and hypocritical. You are right, it’s not the same thing, as a lie requires deliberately distorting the facts, which would require you to actually know or understand them.
> 
> It’s not the end of the world that you were misunderstood. I am sure that if you can go crawl into your safe place with your blankie, you’ll calm down enough to have a productive conversation again, eventually.

Learn to read. It’s really not that hard. Dishonest postings that you and evil economist do accomplish what exactly?

I’m not going to parse the sentences that were quoted to help you or to clarify. You know you’re being dishonest. And that gets a Sad!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-milo-yiannopoulos-exist-exactly/760298/620 "2017-02-23T18:44:23Z")

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Is this some kind of performance art?

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