# How does one get the Hells Angels off your back? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 30, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742 "2022-04-30T23:50:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/81 "2022-05-09T22:39:09Z")
That’s what I thought. Just wanted to clarify it. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/82 "2022-05-09T22:41:41Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > I’ve never been to Ontario and don’t know how things work there but I’ve known a few strippers here in DC, and that is not how it works here. Strippers work directly for the club. I’m pretty sure most strippers in the USA are private contractors. They rent stage time from the clubs. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/83 "2022-05-09T22:54:22Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Perhaps Z could do an amusing dance to “Tequila”. They could also tell the bikers their name is Ed Harley, of the Harley-Davidson Harleys. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/84 "2022-05-09T23:00:24Z")
That sounds made up. What if he went with Charley Harley? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/85 "2022-05-09T23:07:06Z")
As a side note, my parents knew the Davidson family that started H-D. They were short, skinny, and meticulously dressed. Because they weren’t bikers. They were businessmen who had discovered a great way to make money. That didn’t stop a shit-ton of bikers showing up at my folks’ church for Arthur Harley Davidson’s funeral. (So telling them you were from “the Harley family” wouldn’t work very well…) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/86 "2022-05-10T02:01:54Z")
> [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](#): > > Most such people don’t live in the same neighborhoods as Hells Angels, and also the source of their income is typically obvious What kind of neighborhoods do they live in? I’m guessing they don’t all live in dumps or trailer parks. Some people in biker gangs do quite well. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/87 "2022-05-10T02:50:08Z")
I was neighbors with a self-described “biker”, he at least looked the part. We were in a normal suburban neighborhood but he’d leave every weekend with a bunch of fellow bikers and be gone for the next 3-4 days (he asked me to make sure none of his dogs escaped when he was gone and to peek over his fence every now and then to make sure their food dishes were still full, which is how we primarily interacted). When he wasn’t with friends he would spend most of his day either working on his or someone elses bike in his garage or walking his dogs. He claimed he got disability from some construction accident but I imagine he probably supplemented his income in other ways too. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/88 "2022-05-10T12:24:25Z")
> [@digs](#): > > (So telling them you were from “the Harley family” wouldn’t work very well…) Are you saying the movie “Fletch Lives” lied to me? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RZZEJgSkPmQ/hqdefault.jpg "Ed Harley Visits A Bar") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZZEJgSkPmQ) ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff_II)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/89 "2022-05-10T13:19:38Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > What kind of neighborhoods do they live in? I’m guessing they don’t all live in dumps or trailer parks. Some people in biker gangs do quite well. I think there’s a middle ground. My impression is that most outlaw bikers are blue collar type guys and live in blue collar type or at best middle class neighborhoods. Not in the upper class type neighborhoods frequented by the type of rich guys whose source of wealth is obvious and who don’t get suspected of moving in on biker turf. If you are a guy whose wealth and lifestyle exceeds that of your neighbors, and the source of your income is some type of wheeling and dealing that is not obvious to the casual observer, then you are more at risk of being suspected of some sort of shady activity than would be a successful dentist living in a nice neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/90 "2022-05-10T13:34:59Z")
> [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](#): > > My impression is that most outlaw bikers are blue collar type guys and live in blue collar type or at best middle class neighborhoods. Not in the upper class type neighborhoods frequented by the type of rich guys whose source of wealth is obvious and who don’t get suspected of moving in on biker turf. - There are exceptions. 😉 > **[The Biker Lawyers - Expert Personal Injury Law Firm](https://www.thebikerlawyers.com/)** > > The Biker Lawyers are dedicated to providing top-notch personal injury and wrongful death legal services. Get the justice you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/91 "2022-05-10T13:53:35Z")
> [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](#): > > My impression is that most outlaw bikers are blue collar type guys and live in blue collar type or at best middle class neighborhoods. Not in the upper class type neighborhoods frequented by the type of rich guys whose source of wealth is obvious and who don’t get suspected of moving in on biker turf. That is usually it. That guy down the street that works at the tire store, has a nice house, wife, kids, and that really cool bike, he’s in a club. They may be a little upscale but often want jobs they aren’t tied to, so it’s usually manual or semi-skilled labor and if they want to go ride with the guys for a couple a weeks there’s another body shop, junk yard, construction crew, or something else that will hire him when he gets back. It’s usually bad form for them to bring attention to themselves individually, the club gets enough attention, likely to be under constant surveillance, so they keep things on the low down. There are also a lot of middle-aged and old bikers now too, some may have done well for themselves in life, that guy who worked at the tire store now runs the place or owns it for instance. It’s a pretty wide world for them now, outside of their drug running and ‘stripping business’. ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff_II)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742/92 "2022-05-10T14:00:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > There are exceptions. If there are, it’s not these guys. They are not outlaw bikers/one percenters ala Hells Angels. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-one-get-the-hells-angels-off-your-back/963742.md?page=4)