No. If people are idiots and act in a way that infects other people, the virus will stick around. Since quarantining yourself is far easier for an STD than any other contagious disease, there is less benefit to making the alternative solutions compulsary.
Ethics are the means by which we decide how to use the information acquired through biology (or any other scientific endeavor). It would be prudent to make decisions on whether or not to mandate a particular based partially on biological knowledge, however you cannot make that decision without an ethical framework of some kind.
How would such a law be enforced?
It is a concern. That doesn’t mean the vaccine should be mandated by law.
You have got to be kidding … we have jackasses out there that deliberately continue having sex when they know they are HIV positive, and at least 1 man who deliberately was specifically trying to infect partners. There are very few people out there that will selflessly give up sex when they know they have an STD that can not be treated with antibiotics and will deliberately lie about it [cf herpes back in the early 80s] There was one DJ that women would warn each other off because he had herpes and was still hitting on women in his club.
[and I can remember sitting in on a conversation when HIV was first really being publicized and hearing the comment that she remembered when herpes was what everybody worried about, now they are relieved to find out that what they have is herpes because it won’t kill them.]
I say make the HPV vax mandatory. It has absolutely nothing to do with morality, unless you count the possibility of saving lives immoral.:dubious:
Of course it has something to do with morality. If you argue “we should do X because it will save Y lives” you have made a moral argument.
Some think it “sends a message” to the girl that sex is OK.
I can’t tell you how often I hear teen girls say “I really want to just fuck like a weasel in heat, but fear of HPV is really keeping me abstinent. Thank you HPV, for preventing me from burning in hellfire!”
I think there is a part of many fathers brains that won’t allow them to believe their little girl will ever have sex.
Hmm. That exceeds 140 characters, even replacing “to,” “you,” and “for” with “2,” “u,” and “4.”
I’m sorry, did you miss the whole “people are idiots” part ? As for quarantining oneself from having sex, you’ve *got *to be fucking kidding.
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Didn’t say it could. Unlike vaxxing.
I was simply illustrating how person A acting like an idiot re:medical matters fucks person B who wasn’t. My point was that taking a vaccine is not like wearing a seatbelt or a motorcycle helmet (Which, BTW, is more often than not mandated by law), which only put the risk takers’ life at risk if left up to the individual.
No. The part where “vaccinating everybody is the only way to eradicate a disease” is the part that means the vaccine should be mandated by law.
Thank you, that will suffice, I prefer to fill in the rest of the story myself.
There is a force in this world of anti-Love, anti togetherness it uses fear, including fear of STD’s to keep people from getting together and experiencing Love in all it’s fullness. It is a force trying to prevent people from knowing God, as God is Love.
- Kanicbird
“You promised me Lord, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I have noticed that during the most trying periods of my life there has only been one set of footprints in the sand. Why, when I needed you most, have you not been there for me?”
The Lord replied, “The times when you have seen only one set of footprints, my child, is when I climbed on your back and was banging the hell out of you."
“How much lighter my load has been, now that God no longer rides my back.”
But Who made the STDs? 
Per NPR story this morning, only about 5% of women infected with HPV develop cervical cancer as a result. Also the cost of the vaccine is around $300 per patient, and it is only known to be effective for 5 years, though it may be as long as 10 years.
So there are some valid, non hysterical arguments against vaccinating 11 year olds…The expensive vaccine is likely to have become ineffective when these girls reach their peak years for sexual activity.
That the vaccine’s manufacturer has invested in lobbying to have the vaccine mandated by law also causes many to look askance at it. Rick Perry has stated that the $5000 he received was below what it takes to buy him.
Seriously? You think HPV is going to scare a girl away from having sex? I bet half of teenagers don’t know what it is. Or what is can do. And the fact that there is only a chance it will give you cervical cancer and then the fact that it eventually goes away if doesn’t kill you. Umm yeah it isn’t going to stop any girl from having sex.
Cite please. Thank you.
You might want to find a comb. That woosh was flying mightly low, probably mussed your hair some.
HIV and AIDS hasn’t stopped ppl from having sex and now we have a vaccination that can prevent HPV and you are trying to stop people from receiving. I’m proving a point. If there is something out there that has a % of you getting or it goes away on its own w/o treatment people aren’t going to worry about it as much. What kids worry about is STD’s that kill them or don’t have a drug that makes it go away. And for a lot of young girls they won’t be scared by 5%.
Yeah… that was his point. It’s perfectly okay to say “Oops, I don’t know that poster, I missed the irony.”
A law would never happen. The absence only people would be all over it in a second. Maybe state by state by state.