# How does Trump convince these big stadium/convention center owners to let him host rallies? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 20, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028 "2019-10-20T02:14:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/21 "2019-10-20T22:02:51Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > True. That’s _Security costs_, not rent. And the VIPs make the assumption that they were gonna pay the cops anyway, and protecting the VIP are part of their duties. So that’s quite a bit different. ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/22 "2019-10-21T00:06:55Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Great. Trump is basically the Jerry Garcia of aging white grievance. > > Even if I liked Donald Trump, even if I agreed with everything he said and thought he was doing a bang-up job as America’s bigliest and bestest president of all time, I couldn’t imagine how that could possibly be any fun. Watching him blather on for hours at a time, making the same “jokes,” the same taunts, the same boasts, again and again and again… how is that not torture? On the bright side, you could listen to Hillary whine about how she was robbed of her Presidency again… and again. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/23 "2019-10-21T00:08:22Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > On the bright side, you could listen to Hillary whine about how she was robbed of her Presidency again… and again. Got an example? ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/24 "2019-10-21T00:28:30Z")
OP, do you understand that the Dallas Mavericks do not own American Airlines Center, and that Target does not own Target Center? They are both municipal facilities, owned by the cities they’re in. Do you really want cities to ban political rallies, or tell candidates for President they aren’t welcome? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/25 "2019-10-21T00:53:48Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I always figured that the arenas sold enough concessions to turn a profit on the deal in addition to the rent. The security would be the local police’s problem and they’ll likely get stiffed by the campaign, which doesn’t matter to the arena. It’s probably tempting to sell MAGA hats at $8 each or 2 for $20. I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/26 "2019-10-21T01:01:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Got an example? Too much to hope for. > [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Do you really want cities to ban political rallies, or **tell candidates for President they aren’t welcome?** Since this POTUS has already declared war on California and other states that didn’t go his way, venues in those states could at least REQUIRE up-front payment, plus a bond for overages (like cops quelling rioting MAGA-heads), and a hefty insurance premium, all paid before they open the gates. If I stiff a creditor, I get sued and a lien is placed on my property. Why me and not DJT? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/27 "2019-10-21T03:05:26Z")
> [@RioRico](#): > > Too much to hope for. > Since this POTUS has already declared war on California and other states that didn’t go his way, venues in those states could at least REQUIRE up-front payment, plus a bond for overages (like cops quelling rioting MAGA-heads), and a hefty insurance premium, all paid before they open the gates. … If they are publicly-owned, they probably can’t do those things. Or at least, they can’t do those things just for President Trump. If they had some reasonable, content-neutral rules for all politicians, that’d probably be ok. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/28 "2019-10-21T20:21:30Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > If they are publicly-owned, they probably can’t do those things. Or at least, they can’t do those things just for President Trump. If they had some reasonable, content-neutral rules for all politicians, that’d probably be ok. Content-neutral, or at least party-neutral, would be nice. Trump held a rally in Minneapolis, and the mayor Jacob Frey wanted to charge him $530K. Obama held a rally, also at the Target Center, and supposedly incurred about $20K. [Cite](https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/10/08/the-high-cost-of-campaign-rallies/). Go figure. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/29 "2019-10-21T21:24:33Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > On the bright side, you could listen to Hillary whine about how she was robbed of her Presidency again… and again. See, that comparison doesn’t really work, because even if Hillary Clinton were going around the country holding rallies to “whine about how she was robbed of her presidency,” that wouldn’t appeal to me in the least, nor to much of anyone else. There is no Cult of Hillary equivalent to the Cult of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/30 "2019-10-22T02:42:40Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Content-neutral, or at least party-neutral, would be nice. > > Trump held a rally in Minneapolis, and the mayor Jacob Frey wanted to charge him $530K. Obama held a rally, also at the Target Center, and supposedly incurred about $20K. [Cite](https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/10/08/the-high-cost-of-campaign-rallies/). Go figure. [At the time, Former Minneapolis Police Chief Tim Dolan estimated a 2009 Health Care Rally at Target Center by then-President Barack Obama cost his department about $20,000. . . . The estimated cost of Thursday’s visit is significantly higher. The city came up with the number using the same security cost formula they used for the Super Bowl and Final Four.]([The High Cost Of Campaign Rallies - CBS Minnesota](https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/10/08/the-high-cost-of-campaign-rallies/)) So an appearance by a president for the purpose of discussing a specific issue costs less than a campaign rally by a president promoting re-election. Is there any evidence that the Obama appearance drew crowds comparable to a Superbowl? (That was he basis on which the Trump costs were calculated in advance.) This hardly appears to be a decision based on party affiliation. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/31 "2019-10-22T04:07:46Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > [At the time, Former Minneapolis Police Chief Tim Dolan estimated a 2009 Health Care Rally at Target Center by then-President Barack Obama cost his department about $20,000. > > . . . > > The estimated cost of Thursday’s visit is significantly higher. The city came up with the number using the same security cost formula they used for the Super Bowl and Final Four.]([The High Cost Of Campaign Rallies - CBS Minnesota](https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/10/08/the-high-cost-of-campaign-rallies/)) > So an appearance by a president for the purpose of discussing a specific issue costs less than a campaign rally by a president promoting re-election. Is there any evidence that the Obama appearance drew crowds comparable to a Superbowl? (That was he basis on which the Trump costs were calculated in advance.) > > This hardly appears to be a decision based on party affiliation. The last Super Bowl had 70,000+ people in attendance. President Trump’s MN rally had ~20,000. It sure appears partisan to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028/32 "2019-10-22T17:59:43Z")
Trump doesn’t convince them, the money does. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-does-trump-convince-these-big-stadium-convention-center-owners-to-let-him-host-rallies/842028.md?page=1)