# How embarrassed should I be about my hobby?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 15, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284 "2014-12-15T14:19:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/81 "2014-12-16T14:27:28Z")

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> [@robert\_columbia](#):
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> Ponies get married, and have kids. True, the actual “how is babby formed?” process could be a little different, but it’s clearly established that fillies come from parents.

I would say “come from” possibly implies too much. The children just appear one day, right, with no reference or depiction of mating, pregnancy, birth?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/82 "2014-12-16T17:00:53Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And no, it never occurred to me that Jesse, from Team Rocket, was hot. Maybe I’m too old for him. Jesse from “Breaking Bad” was hot. I’m too old for him, too, but he looks like an adult to me. Jesse from Team Rocket looked like a kid.

Jesse is the girl one. The boy one is James. And their Meowth is a boy too.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/83 "2014-12-16T17:23:58Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> My first reaction to the the OPIs that the community you care about? Christ Jesus. Has the SDMB become so pathetic that this is a place to seek validation for semi-pedophiliac fan fiction?
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> What the living fuck?

Agreed. Keep that shit on DeviantArt with the other clopping stories and drawings, tulpas, and horse waifus.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/84 "2014-12-16T17:59:10Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And no, it never occurred to me that Jesse, from Team Rocket, was hot. Maybe I’m too old for him.

Jesse is the female.

I thought they were adults. Jesse and James seem to be of similar ages; Jesse was on the hook (with pressure from his wealthy family) to get married several years before the events of Diamond and Peal. They get jobs, earn money, and can afford to pay for elaborate (if ultimately ineffectual) giant mechanical devices.

But notwithstanding my belief that she’s sexually mature, I don’t find her in any way sexually appealing. I’m hard pressed to name a single Pokemon anime character I thought was hot… maybe Pike Queen Lucy or Sinnoh Champion Cynthia, but even then, the appeal is more theoretical than actual (i.e., “I can see why you think she’s hot, but…”)

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**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/85 "2014-12-16T19:18:05Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Yes, and the two are about as related as… Um… I dunno, two completely unrelated things? Rule 34 is basically about turning things you like into porn, regardless of who they’re aimed at. My Little Pony, with its cast of ostensibly _adult_ female characters, is a fairly apt target for that. It has nothing to do with wanting to fuck children, sexualizing children, or any such thing.

Whatever happened to the good old days of spanking it to Josie and the Pussycats or Velma?  
Whether they are or are not adults pales to the fact that they are freaking HORSES.  
Also, doesn’t My Little Pony imply simply by the title that they are young horses?

There is so much wrong with the justification here that it boggles my mind.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/86 "2014-12-16T19:28:23Z")

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> [@TommyTutone](#):
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> Whatever happened to the good old days of spanking it to Josie and the Pussycats or Velma?

You young whippersnappers! In the \*real \*good old days, we flogged the dummy to Betty Boop and we were thankful!

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/87 "2014-12-16T19:29:53Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> (And yes, it is My Little Pony. Which, bizarrely, when you look at the figures, is topped _only by Pokemon_ in sheer volume of porn produced. In fact, of the top 10 most eroticized characters on Paheal, the “Mane 6” take 6 of the 7 top spots, with Chun Li still at #3. Porn is weird.)

Hey there’s nothing weird about Chun Li, she’s hot. I’ve had a crush on her since junior high! 😃

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/88 "2014-12-16T19:35:19Z")

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> [@TommyTutone](#):
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> Also, doesn’t My Little Pony imply simply by the title that they are young horses?

Absolutely not. The franchise started as “My Pretty Pony” which was 10 inch tall plastic ponies and then shortly after the design was reduced and renamed “My Little Pony”. It has nothing to do with the age of the ponies at all. It’s about the toys height.

“In 1983, Zacherle began working for Hasbro directly, and My Pretty Pony was moved to Hasbro, reduced in size and renamed to My Little Pony.”

> **[My Little Pony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Pretty_Pony_(toy))**
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> My Little Pony (MLP) is a toy line and media franchise developed by American toy company Hasbro. The first toys were developed by Bonnie Zacherle, Charles Muenchinger, and Steve D'Aguanno, and were produced in 1981. The ponies feature colorful bodies, manes and a unique symbol on one or both sides of their flanks. Such symbols are referred to in the three most recent incarnations as "cutie marks". My Little Pony has been revamped several times with new and more modern looks to continue its app...

Also lets not forget the awesomeness that is Dr. Hooves. The Doctor Who pony.

> **[Dr. Hooves](https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Dr._Hooves)**
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> For the stallion one of whose two placeholder names is "Doctor Whooves #3", see List of ponies/Pegasus ponies#The Tenth Doctor. Dr. Hooves, or Whooves, also known as Dr. Whooves or Time Turner, is a background male Earth pony with an hourglass cutie...

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/89 "2014-12-16T20:45:03Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> The underage one, or the retarded one? Either way, it’s not really a proud boast.

I believe they’re one and the same.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/90 "2014-12-16T21:19:25Z")

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**Drunky Smurf** surprisingly weighs in with detailed knowledge of the series.

Holy crap! So does **Bricker**! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/91 "2014-12-16T21:19:25Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Absolutely not. The franchise started as “My Pretty Pony” which was 10 inch tall plastic ponies and then shortly after the design was reduced and renamed “My Little Pony”. It has nothing to do with the age of the ponies at all. It’s about the toys height.

I think the poster is referring to the fact that they are called “ponies,” not about the “little” description.

(I can’t believe I’m chiming in on this discussion… :smack:)

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**Author:** ![Abner\_Ravenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@Abner\_Ravenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abner_Ravenwood)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/92 "2014-12-16T21:32:22Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> I think the poster is referring to the fact that they are called “ponies,” not about the “little” description.
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> (I can’t believe I’m chiming in on this discussion… :smack:)

Ponies are not baby horses.

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/93 "2014-12-16T21:33:46Z")

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> [@Abner\_Ravenwood](#):
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> Ponies are not baby horses.

I stand corrected.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/94 "2014-12-16T21:49:42Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> The underage one, or the retarded one? Either way, it’s not really a proud boast.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I believe they’re one and the same.

I understand not believing in what he believes in…but these comments took a TURN.

Did I miss something? From a previous thread or conversation maybe? Because these comments seem WAY beyond the line on first read

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/95 "2014-12-16T21:51:24Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> The people who read your stories and beat off are lamer than you are.

I think it’s very rude to talk about me like that.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/96 "2014-12-16T22:10:43Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Did I miss something? From a previous thread or conversation maybe?

[Previous thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15402043#post15402043)

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/97 "2014-12-16T22:11:57Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Absolutely not. The franchise started as “My Pretty Pony” which was 10 inch tall plastic ponies and then shortly after the design was reduced and renamed “My Little Pony”. It has nothing to do with the age of the ponies at all. It’s about the toys height.

Huh. I remember “My Pretty Pony.” I’ve always assumed that one was a ripoff of the other.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/98 "2014-12-16T22:16:30Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> @Questioning motives: have you considered that I legitimately am not aware of how “un-okay” this kind of thing is? Like, seriously. I spend a lot of time surrounded by people who are into this kind of thing. My girlfriend is my co-author. While I’m not surprised to see some negative responses, I _am_ surprised at just _how_ negative some of them are. Oh, I’m sorry, my interest in Rule 34 marks me as a predator or a pedophile? I wasn’t aware. I wonder if any of the people judging me think Jessie from Team Rocket is hot. You know, the 16-year-old. Or any of Ash’s other companions, most of whom are pre-adolescent.

“Pre-adolescent”? In other words, a child. _barf_

The only thing I can think that comes _closest_ is that I find the actor that played Lupin in Harry Potter attractive. But he’s an actual, live person. Not some anime character. He’s also not a child. And I’ve never written Harry Potter porn.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/99 "2014-12-16T22:32:33Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I understand not believing in what he believes in…but these comments took a TURN.
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> Did I miss something? From a previous thread or conversation maybe? Because these comments seem WAY beyond the line on first read

Yeah, that post offers ignores the numerous and consistent corrections to this claim that I have offered in the past, and which I know at least Guintasia knows about. It really perplexes me that this is still a thing.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-embarrassed-should-i-be-about-my-hobby/707284/100 "2014-12-16T22:40:02Z")

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You dated a 16-year-old, developmentally delayed girl. That is what you posted in that thread. In fact, you thought she was 15, a year younger than that. How is that OUR fault? :dubious:

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