# How English Is Evolving into a Language We May Not Even Understand

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 7, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522 "2008-07-07T04:14:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/1 "2008-07-07T04:14:37Z")

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Story [here](http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/magazine/16-07/st_essay/).

“If you are stolen, call the police at once. Please omnivorously put the waste in garbage can. Deformed man lavatory.” – Sign in Beijing

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/2 "2008-07-07T15:37:58Z")

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Article many interest.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/3 "2008-07-07T15:47:46Z")

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Since English is certain to evolve forever, how could it _not_ become a new language?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/4 "2008-07-07T16:19:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi]  
Since English is certain to evolve forever, how could it _not_ become a new language?  
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Word.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/5 "2008-07-07T16:31:09Z")

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Dis been going on fo uh nice long while now. Old English iz uh completely foreign. I can tell you dat Shakespeare writes in uh fine ass tongue but I could barely tell what he wuz jivin’ about in high skoo. Such iz life. with muh beeotch.

Hang loose.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/6 "2008-07-07T16:33:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi]  
Since English is certain to evolve forever, how could it _not_ become a new language?  
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Macroevolution of languages is only a theory. No linguist has ever observed one language turning into a completely different language.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/7 "2008-07-07T16:33:30Z")

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Please erode in time after using the stool pot.

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**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/8 "2008-07-07T16:39:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
Macroevolution of languages is only a theory. No linguist has ever observed one language turning into a completely different language.  
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Someone should start a website to combat ignorant statements from fundies like you.

[speechorigins.com](http://speechorigins.com) might work.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/9 "2008-07-07T16:40:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
Macroevolution of languages is only a theory. No linguist has ever observed one language turning into a completely different language.  
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Well, yeah, but once we defrost a Cornish speaker we will have one.

But of course the ideas behind linguistic evolution are well established, having been observed for a couple or three centuries and over several dozen well-studied languages. Barring some breakthrough, it is close enough to established fact for government work.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/10 "2008-07-07T18:22:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi]  
Well, yeah, but once we defrost a Cornish speaker we will have one.

But of course the ideas behind linguistic evolution are well established, having been observed for a couple or three centuries and over several dozen well-studied languages. Barring some breakthrough, it is close enough to established fact for government work.  
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Nobody is disputing that languages change over time. However, English has only changed a bit since its original form as spoken by God when he wrote the King James Bible.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/11 "2008-07-07T18:37:49Z")

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0101010111100110! 😉

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/12 "2008-07-07T18:45:52Z")

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dzGª®"ýT‹Š5^ to you too, buddy!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/13 "2008-07-07T18:56:04Z")

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[QUOTE=thelurkinghorror]  
Nobody is disputing that languages change over time. However, English has only changed a bit since its original form as spoken by God when he wrote the King James Bible.  
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I love you. 😃

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/14 "2008-07-07T18:57:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
dzGª®"ýT‹Š5^ to you too, buddy!  
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010101110111101000111001110010100101111100001001. For 10100 minutes. in the 11110101000s.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/15 "2008-07-07T18:58:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
I love you. 😃  
[/QUOTE]

Vol. 10.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/16 "2008-07-07T19:03:38Z")

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Not Vol. I?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/17 "2008-07-07T19:10:46Z")

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[QUOTE=tdn]  
Vol. 10.  
[/QUOTE]

That only works if someone says, “Oi! Love you!” and you ignore the punctuation 😃

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/18 "2008-07-07T19:28:26Z")

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O, I love…

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/19 "2008-07-07T19:38:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Indistinguishable]  
Not Vol. I?  
[/QUOTE]

Inflation.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-english-is-evolving-into-a-language-we-may-not-even-understand/455522/20 "2008-07-07T19:40:11Z")

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[QUOTE=tdn]  
Inflation.  
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…makes a good girlfriend better?

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