# How far will elected MAGAts go with Canschluss? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 15, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632 "2025-03-15T23:39:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/21 "2025-03-17T00:42:05Z")
Pull the other one it’s got ~~bells~~ a Haitian eating a cat on it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/22 "2025-03-17T00:43:24Z")
So you’re saying Trump wants to invade Haiti? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/23 "2025-03-17T00:45:48Z")
No, I’m saying “it’s not true and almost nobody actually believes that” is beyond naïve. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/24 "2025-03-17T00:47:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So you’re saying Trump wants to invade Haiti? If somebody suggests to him, probably. Or at least bomb it, it’s full of dark skinned people. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/25 "2025-03-17T00:47:30Z")
> [@FordPrefect](#): > > Think back to Operation Iraqi Freedom… no real threat to the US, no actual WMDs, and yet a reason to go to war was fabricated, Americans were inspired, cajoled, or shamed into the US going to war halfway around the world… I remember. As incredulous as this sounds, I ignored all the evidence the Bush administration was lying because surly nobody would tell a lie that big knowing they’d be found out. Boy, was I ever wrong! The difference between me and the average MAGAt is I eventually wised up and admitted to myself I had been bamboozled. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/26 "2025-03-17T00:51:12Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > No, I’m saying “it’s not true and almost nobody actually believes that” is beyond naïve. Cite the existence of popular belief in that claim, then. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/27 "2025-03-17T00:58:03Z")
Haiti is a fixer-upper. trump wants turnkey countries like Canada and Greenland. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/28 "2025-03-17T01:04:40Z")
99% its driven by Trump’s and the MAGA crowds theories of racial supremacy and demographics. They are not shy in preaching their racial demographic/genocide crap. > **[JD Vance warns Europe that open borders risk 'civilisational suicide'](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14503113/JD-Vance-attack-Europe-civilisational-suicide.html)** > > Speaking on Fox News , the VP said he fears the future of the West as many countries in Europe are 'unable or unwilling' to 'control their borders'. They perceive Canada as big and white so they want it. Greenland gets to be eastern Alaska. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/29 "2025-03-17T01:06:29Z")
With Trump it really depends on who gets to make a pitch to him. And the American Right has _always_ been hostile to Haiti, going back to before the Civil War (successful slave rebellion, you know), so somebody might try to talk him into it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/30 "2025-03-17T01:07:05Z")
“Trump wants Canada” and “Trump wants to invade Canada” are two entirely different propositions. The latter isn’t his style - his style is to neg them until they agree to join the US to make him happy. He won’t get anywhere with it because he doesn’t understand Canada or what their objection is - based on the last time he talked about it, he seems to think “We won’t be able to sing O Canada anymore” is the reason they don’t want to be Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/31 "2025-03-17T01:10:40Z")
I am afraid that I cannot tell any reassurances of what Trump cannot and/or will not do from the sound of rats pissing in a sewer anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/32 "2025-03-17T01:11:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Trump wants Canada” and “Trump wants to invade Canada” are two entirely different propositions. No they aren’t, since an invasion is the only way to get it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/33 "2025-03-17T01:13:13Z")
He’s not going to get it, then. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/34 "2025-03-17T01:14:47Z")
Of course he will, once he conquers it and enslaves the population. It’ll just be a wreck. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/35 "2025-03-17T01:16:23Z")
The United States will collapse before that happens. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/36 "2025-03-17T01:28:30Z")
That’s a bizarre claim, why would it? If unjust wars caused the aggressor to collapse then human history would be vastly different. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/37 "2025-03-17T01:33:02Z")
Why? The U.S. is the Great Lobster Pot Of The World, and our ability to adapt to _and accept_ shit is legendary. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/38 "2025-03-17T01:34:10Z")
I tend to believe our current problems with Canada will follow Trump’s usual pattern. 1. Trump does something stupid. 2. Normal people get annoyed/upset/outraged at what Trump did (depending on the seriousness of the subject Trump is stupid about). 3. Trump’s followers defend Trump. 4. Reality asserts itself and demonstrates that Trump was wrong. 5. Trump will claim that he never meant the stupid thing he said or did and it was only intended as a negotiating tactic. 6. Trump will claim that whatever the current status quo is is the situation Trump always secretly wanted and that he has achieved it by his brilliant negotiating skills. 7. Trump’s followers will proclaim Trump is a genius. 8. Normal people will roll their eyes. 9. Go back to step one and repeat the cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/39 "2025-03-17T01:46:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump will claim that he never meant the stupid thing he said or did and it was only intended as a negotiating tactic. He just recently asserted that when he said he would end the war on day one, he was being “sarcastic”. That’s one way of weaseling out of saying something pathetically ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632/40 "2025-03-17T01:55:31Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > If unjust wars caused the aggressor to collapse then human history would be vastly different. How’s the Third Reich holding up these days? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-far-will-elected-magats-go-with-canschluss/1015632.md?page=3)