# How fascist are you? Take the fascism quiz

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**Created:** [June 21, 2014, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271 "2014-06-21T04:42:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
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Whining rotter. And proud of it.

Guess I’ll never get those jackboots now.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
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Although I suppose the point is that it says more about the zeitgeist than anything else. I guess neither panda porn nor meteor strikes were on the mental radar of someone in the 1950s.

Edit:

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Keep in mind this test was written in 1950. This was an era before even Marilyn Monroe, Bill Haley, and Playboy. This was a society that thought _[Forever Amber](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4YYYVCJWtA)_ was the height of scandalous.

So, yeah, what he said.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/23 "2014-06-21T09:19:04Z")

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Liberal airhead — 2.966666666666667  
When I am in fact an anti-authoritarian reactionary sceptical of human reason. Adorno was an ass, and like Marcuse saw fascism in everything opposed to his own beliefs.

[And speaking of self-regard, what better epitomized fascism than Trotsky’s dictum: "_If you cannot convince a Fascist, acquaint his head with the pavement"_ ?]  
The trouble is most of the questions are muddled or ambiguous, whilst [10] _Nobody ever learned anything really important except through suffering_. is obviously lunatic, or [21] _Some day it will probably be shown that astrology can explain a lot of things_. [probably not] are fairly clear:

- [18] Nowadays more and more people are prying into matters that should remain personal and private. \*

Is reasonable enough when considering people’s interior lives, but scarcely valid if it means ‘allow the great ones to continue unopposed’ ( and who pried more than the nazis, other than communist authorities ? )  
\*\*\*[1] Obedience and respect for authority are the most important virtues children should learn. \*\*\*

Well, one doesn’t want mindless lack of individuality, but a parent doesn’t want the little idiots wandering on to a train track to preserve their sense of self.  
\*\*[2] A person who has bad manners, habits, and breeding can hardly expect to get along with decent people. \*\*

Bad manners should be verboten anyway: the others are subjective.

- [9] No sane, normal, decent person could ever think of hurting a close friend or relative. \*

Unless they are hitting you about the head with a stick it’s kind of difficult to argue with this, and agreeing doesn’t make one fascist.  
\*[24] It is best to use some prewar authorities in Germany to keep order and prevent chaos.  
[You’ll have to pretend it is 1946 when you answer this one.] \*

Well, _duh_. Iraq demonstrated it was nice to keep the power and water flowing.  
_[19] Some people are born with an urge to jump from high places._

I have no idea what this, or one’s beliefs here, have in relation to fascism  
I put _agree somewhat_ because various police must be doing something when they try and talk people down, whereas some of us have no intention of leaping off anywhere taller than 3 feet.

And there are known places in England at least where folk used to leap to perdition either singly or hand-in-hand or even take a one-way car trip.

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I’m a liberal airhead. 2.7.  
Imagine that. 😛

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**Author:** ![here\_and\_there](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f07891/32.png) [@here\_and\_there](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/here_and_there)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/25 "2014-06-21T09:52:55Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Question 29 is a bit odd:
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> Well, yeah. Have you visited the internet lately? I’m pretty sure that the Romans didn’t have panda porn (although I’d be happy to be corrected on that). 😛

[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/9926420/Erotic-Pompeii-goat-statue-arrives-in-the-British-Museum.html](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/9926420/Erotic-Pompeii-goat-statue-arrives-in-the-British-Museum.html)

…and maybe you should check the latest documentary about Pompeii and sex industry in the Roman world.

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my score 1.7  
You are a whining rotter.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/26 "2014-06-21T09:58:26Z")

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> [@here\_and\_there](#):
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> [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/9926420/Erotic-Pompeii-goat-statue-arrives-in-the-British-Museum.html](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/9926420/Erotic-Pompeii-goat-statue-arrives-in-the-British-Museum.html)

😛 Brilliant. Well, that’s what I get for not taking rule XXXIV into account.

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1.9  
Another whining rotter, apparently.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/28 "2014-06-21T10:41:23Z")

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> [@here\_and\_there](#):
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> [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/9926420/Erotic-Pompeii-goat-statue-arrives-in-the-British-Museum.html](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/9926420/Erotic-Pompeii-goat-statue-arrives-in-the-British-Museum.html)
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> …and maybe you should check the latest documentary about Pompeii and sex industry in the Roman world.

Is that the ad link in your link that says “5 ways architects are thinking outside the box”? 🙂

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/29 "2014-06-21T11:21:40Z")

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1.7 I’m a whining rotter. I want a tshirt emblazoned with “Whining Rotter.” 😃

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/30 "2014-06-21T11:34:22Z")

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> [@swampbear](#):
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> I want a tshirt emblazoned with “Whining Rotter.” 😃

I’m considering “Whining Rotter” as my new username.

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“You are a whining rotter.”  
Which is odd…there was no whining involved at any stage.

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I find my self unable to answer any of the questions, they don’t have enough options for answers and the questions don’t have enough detail. What does that make me? I want to answer everything as “that depends . . .”.

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3.1333333333333333

“You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American.”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/34 "2014-06-21T13:45:44Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> 3.4 - disciplined but tolerant; a true American.
> 
> Hah! Knew it all along.

And I’m 3.5 - a tiny bit more disciplined and less tolerant.

I wonder exactly what they mean by fascism.

Regards,  
Shodan

_Die Fahne hocht…_

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/35 "2014-06-21T13:55:26Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> , “you’re a whining rotter”. I’m not even sure what that is

It’s a misprint, it’s supposed to read “winning roller,” you’re prize will be hand delivered by two clean cut uniformed associates . . .

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> I find my self unable to answer any of the questions, they don’t have enough options for answers and the questions don’t have enough detail. What does that make me? I want to answer everything as “that depends . . .”.

This is why tests of this nature got rid of the “I neither agree nor disagree” options. Too many people would select it because the answers depend on things and they wouldn’t get an assessment.

Though this in particular is obviously a silly quiz not to be taken seriously, in more serious multiple choice evaluations, it’s been found that forcing people to select an answer tends to lead to **relatively** accurate assessments that roughly match what they would be assessed as if they were to give their nuanced position (assuming the test is well designed of course).

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2.7, a liberal airhead. Fits well enough.

And I feel that “it depends” is the entire point of the gradations of agreement or disagreement. If I can’t think of any counter, I pick the most severe option. If I can think of one or two, I go with the next. If I’m pretty balanced, I pick one of the other two, going with my instinct on whether I thought the question sounded like something I could or could not disagree with.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fascist-are-you-take-the-fascism-quiz/691271/38 "2014-06-21T14:10:05Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> This is why tests of this nature got rid of the “I neither agree nor disagree” options. Too many people would select it because the answers depend on things and they wouldn’t get an assessment.
> 
> Though this in particular is obviously a silly quiz not to be taken seriously, in more serious multiple choice evaluations, it’s been found that forcing people to select an answer tends to lead to **relatively** accurate assessments that roughly match what they would be assessed as if they were to give their nuanced position (assuming the test is well designed of course).

True, but I was kind of hoping there would be a category below whining rotter for me:( Something like wussypants girlyman.

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Speaking as a 2.5 liberal airhead this is a crappy test, largely because of its relatively archaic time of origin. Some of the questions are too transparent and others too obtuse when looked at from 2014.

> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> - [9] No sane, normal, decent person could ever think of hurting a close friend or relative. \*
> 
> Unless they are hitting you about the head with a stick it’s kind of difficult to argue with this, and agreeing doesn’t make one fascist.

Could be the disagreeing one is the one that marks for fascism – after all the more hardline totalitarians in general \*encourage \*you to turn against your friends or relatives?

But OTOH, yes, how about disagreeing by bearing in mind the possibility of doing it in self defense, or because your brother is the goddamn Unabomber? And even that fails to tell us much about someone’s inclinations, either. The statement would require an additional “…to gain advantage for themselves.” clause to become agreeable to most people of ALL ideologies.

> [@](#):
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> _[19] Some people are born with an urge to jump from high places._
> 
> I have no idea what this, or one’s beliefs here, have in relation to fascism
> 
> I put _agree somewhat_ because various police must be doing something when they try and talk people down, whereas some of us have no intention of leaping off anywhere taller than 3 feet.
> 
> And there are known places in England at least where folk used to leap to perdition either singly or hand-in-hand or even take a one-way car trip.

Heck, “born with an urge to jump from high places” explains to me recreational bungee-jumpers, skydivers and BASE jumpers.

From the test explanation that makes this be one of the questions that aim to reflect cosmic determinism or stereotypy, it seems the authors position is that the “fascist” POV of “just born that way” explains away the jumper as just a mental defective so there’s no need to expend much resources in figuring what’s their problem, and all the preventive care they need is to be put away somewhere they can’t hurt themselves.

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> 3.4 - disciplined but tolerant; a true American.
> 
> Hah! Knew it all along.

Me, too!

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