# How Fucked is the Dem Party? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 29, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576 "2013-10-29T18:35:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/81 "2013-10-30T20:51:26Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Please give my regards to, _LOL_, future governor Ken Cucinelli! 😃 Bwahahahaha! The only Ken I have a fucking modicum of respect for is Ken Starr. ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/82 "2013-10-30T20:53:10Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I’m sure their arguments play well with Conservatives. They don’t play well with me. They play like paper airplanes that fly over your head right? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/83 "2013-10-30T21:02:36Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > Half a million votes is hardly a mandate. Is 4,982,296 votes, nearly ten times your figure and the actual margin by which Obama won, a mandate? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/84 "2013-10-30T21:30:53Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > The best moment in my life was when the supposedly unelectable radical who only won 22 states in 1976 carried 49 states in 1980. Enough with your revisionist history. Half a million votes is hardly a mandate. You might want to check YOUR revisionist history. It was 44 states, not 49. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/85 "2013-10-30T21:47:40Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > The best moment in my life was when the supposedly unelectable radical who only won 22 states in 1976 carried 49 states in 1980. Enough with your revisionist history. Half a million votes is hardly a mandate. Half a million votes when? Barack Obama 65,917,257 51.01% 332 61.7% Mitt Romney 60,932,235 47.15% 206 38.3% You’re off by a factor of 10. Five million votes and 4% is a mandate, and you guys would be screaming that from the top of your lungs if your guy had won by your 500k. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/86 "2013-10-30T21:48:56Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > They play like paper airplanes that fly over your head right? And identical in substance. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/87 "2013-10-30T21:53:33Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > The only Ken I have a fucking modicum of respect for is Ken Starr. Yes! Keep going! Oh god, more Republican “facts!” More! ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/88 "2013-10-30T22:05:13Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > You’re off by a factor of 10. Five million votes and 4% is a mandate, and you guys would be screaming that from the top of your lungs if your guy had won by your 500k. Heck, they were screaming like that when they _lost_ by 537. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/89 "2013-10-30T22:14:10Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You might want to check YOUR revisionist history. It was 44 states, not 49. Also, is **IceQube** mixing the 1976 Republican primary with the 1980 general election? Gerald Ford didn’t run in 1980. ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/90 "2013-10-31T01:12:55Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > Heck, they were screaming like that when they _lost_ by 537. When was this? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/91 "2013-10-31T01:22:47Z")
**Ice** -I assume that was the margin in FL in 2000 ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/92 "2013-10-31T02:14:06Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Yes! Keep going! Oh god, more Republican “facts!” More! I’m not Republican. I’m reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/93 "2013-10-31T02:32:35Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > I’m not Republican. I’m reasonable. The _American_ [del]S[/del]_Thinker_ blog is not reasonable, it is crazy. If you are reasonable you should start by removing their link from your computer. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/94 "2013-10-31T02:45:09Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > I’m not Republican. I’m reasonable. If you’re TP, you’re Republican, and not the reasonable sort, either. If you’re not TP, you’re doing a fair-to-middlin’ imitation. Broadway beckons. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/95 "2013-10-31T02:59:23Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > I’m not Republican. I’m reasonable. So you are arguing in favor of positions you don’t actually support? Why? ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/96 "2013-10-31T03:06:01Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > So you are arguing in favor of positions you don’t actually support? Why? There are better prospects for Americans than being ruled by a countess chosen by a homosexual Muslim. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/97 "2013-10-31T03:18:27Z")
Dunno, but maybe its time to give it a burl. It’s not as though merkins have done much under the ones chosen by wunderbread white evangalists ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/98 "2013-10-31T03:19:48Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > There are better prospects for Americans than being ruled by a countess chosen by a homosexual Muslim. Not many, no. ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/99 "2013-10-31T03:50:54Z")
Back to the point, it’s pretty clear to me the ACA has been a train-wreck. It proves that the government can’t even manufacture so much as a paper clip without a disaster happening. The government is incompetent and the libs have shown this time after time and it’s time to repeal ACA. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/100 "2013-10-31T03:53:17Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > Back to the point, it’s pretty clear to me the ACA has been a train-wreck. No more so than anything else brought on the market without a beta-test. Which is sad, but these glitches will be not forgotten but amiably laughed at long before November 2014, and the whole thing will cost **only** the Pubs any votes. Deal with it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576.md?page=6)