# How Fucked is the Dem Party? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 29, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576 "2013-10-29T18:35:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/141 "2013-10-31T15:53:32Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > :dubious: Cite. **You** are going to request a _cite_ when you never acknowleged your previous factual errors? That’s some outstanding intellectual honesty there, Lou. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/142 "2013-10-31T15:54:33Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > :dubious: Cite. > **[Republican Party Approval Rating Falls To Record Low: Poll](https://www.ibtimes.com/government-shutdown-2013-republican-party-hits-record-low-approval-poll-finds-1421898)** > > The Republican Party is primarily taking the blame for the shutdown - hitting its lowest approval rating in more than 20 years. > **[Republican Party Favorability Sinks to Record Low](https://news.gallup.com/poll/165317/republican-party-favorability-sinks-record-low.aspx)** > > As the government shutdown continues, the GOP's favorable rating is now 28%, the lowest Gallup has measured for either party in its trend since 1992. The Democratic Party's favorability of 43% is down slightly from last month. [http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2013/10/23/what-republicans-need-to-do-to-recover-from-their-record-low-approval-rating](http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2013/10/23/what-republicans-need-to-do-to-recover-from-their-record-low-approval-rating) Or you could have spent 5 seconds googling “republican approval record low”. Hell, it’s even worse for the republicans in congress. :rolleyes: Now how about _you_ cite one of the many claims you’ve made so far: > [@](#): > > There are better prospects for Americans than being ruled by a countess chosen by a homosexual Muslim. > [@](#): > > the ACA has been a train-wreck > [@](#): > > The government is incompetent > [@](#): > > the libs have shown this [the government is incompetent] time after time Knock yourself out. ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/143 "2013-10-31T15:55:08Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > If OMG is a conservative, he is used to ignoring racism. Yes, he’s used to ignoring libs. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/144 "2013-10-31T15:55:36Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > :dubious: Cite. [Gallup.](http://www.gallup.com/poll/165317/republican-party-favorability-sinks-record-low.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/145 "2013-10-31T15:57:34Z")
Let me clarify, libs telling ad libs. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/146 "2013-10-31T15:58:26Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > :dubious: Cite. [Here’s one](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/10/disapproval-of-gop-peaks-in-blame-for-the-budget-crisis/): > [@](#): > > The latest ABC News/Washington Post poll finds that criticism of the GOP’s handling of the budget dispute has grown by 11 percentage points since just before the partial government shutdown began, from 63 to 70 and now 74 percent – clearly leaving the party with the lion’s share of blame. Indeed 54 percent now “strongly” disapprove. [Here’s another one](http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/21/politics/cnn-poll-gop-boehner-shutdown/): > [@](#): > > According to the survey, 54% say it’s a bad thing that the GOP controls the House, up 11 points from last December, soon after the 2012 elections when the Republicans kept control of the chamber. Only 38% say it’s a good thing the GOP controls the House, a 13-point dive from the end of last year. [And of course this one from earlier in the month](http://www.gallup.com/poll/165317/republican-party-favorability-sinks-record-low.aspx): > [@](#): > > With the Republican-controlled House of Representatives engaged in a tense, government-shuttering budgetary standoff against a Democratic president and Senate, the Republican Party is now viewed favorably by 28% of Americans, down from 38% in September. This is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992. ETA: Damn all y’all. Stupid cite ninjas. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/147 "2013-10-31T16:00:15Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > Let me clarify, libs telling ad libs. Keep going - eventually it’ll become coherent. Not actually funny or relevant, but coherent. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/148 "2013-10-31T16:00:30Z")
So, given up trying the ‘fact’ thing, just responding with name-calling? You really don’t got _anything_, do you? Was there something wrong with the cites you requested and were provided?:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/149 "2013-10-31T16:00:39Z")
Notice how no less than three people were able to provide citations within about 5 seconds. Almost as if we have easy access to some sort of machine that allows us to enter terms and gives us websites related to those terms, ranked by importance and relevance. One that is especially good at finding sources for claims with clear terminology. EDIT: four! Four people! ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/150 "2013-10-31T16:00:51Z")
uggg… guys, let it all go. IceQube is now clearly just trying to troll it out, and get reactions. I think as a board we have fniished here and should just let this thread die out and hope IceQube just moves along. We have a commitment to fight ignorance, but you can’t win every fight and sometimes just have to walk away… ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/151 "2013-10-31T16:01:52Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > I take back my comment on blacks being stupid. Obviously only OMGABC can sympathize with my views. Of course – only a black poster can sympathize with how you claimed black people are stupid and overly self-entitled. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/152 "2013-10-31T16:02:14Z")
But it’s fun… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/153 "2013-10-31T16:04:15Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Of course – only a black poster can sympathize with how you claimed black people are stupid and overly self-entitled. Let’s stop speculating and wait for OMGABC to share his views. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/154 "2013-10-31T16:04:27Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > four! Four people! \ Ah! Ah! Ahhhhhh!!! \ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/155 "2013-10-31T16:09:23Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > Let me clarify, libs telling ad libs. Fail. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/156 "2013-10-31T16:22:25Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > Let’s stop speculating and wait for OMGABC to share his views. Hey, here’s an idea on how to kill time while we wait: how about you help us understand what was going through your head when you spoke of a gay muslim and a countess? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/157 "2013-10-31T16:32:37Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Hey, here’s an idea on how to kill time while we wait: how about you help us understand what was going through your head when you spoke of a gay muslim and a countess? It may have been Authentic [del]Frontier[/del] Right-Wing Gibberish but it’s a cracking idea for a madcap comedy. I’m seeing Andy Dick as the Muslim and Zooey Deschanel as the Countess. There’s a mix-up when their identical small yappy dogs accidentally get swapped. Hijinks ensue. Andy Dick becomes a fashion designer to royalty in the end, thanks to her connections. Damn! We got ourselves a movie here! ETA: No, not Deschanel. Emma Thompson! Got to be someone British. Yeah, baby! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/158 "2013-10-31T16:32:44Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > Let’s take our founding philosophy a little further than this socialized catastrophe of medicine that only a black person could have “thought” of. Mitt Romney is black? Who knew? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/159 "2013-10-31T16:36:57Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Mitt Romney is black? Who knew? The Heritage Foundation, Mitt Romney, the political leadership of Massachusetts, and the U.S. Senate. Maybe this is “Is Blue Blood Black Blood?” Part III. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576/160 "2013-10-31T16:49:57Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > I’m not Republican. I’m reasonable. I love it when you talk like that! Yes! More of this “reason”! More I say! I can see the downfall of the Republican party already! Please go out and convince more people to believe as you do and, more importantly, primary those Republicans who don’t! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-fucked-is-the-dem-party/672576.md?page=9)