# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2201 "2017-11-29T14:11:28Z")

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No one’s talked about it (in/to the media) for over a year. I’d be curious what would happen if his victims began talking again, or if we had some new accusers.

ETA: in reply to ThelmaLou

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2202 "2017-11-29T14:18:52Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> What makes him bulletproof (possibly a poor choice of words) on this topic?

Money. Money and his complete lack of human decency.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2203 "2017-11-29T14:23:18Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Trump’s latest tweets:
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> Britain First… what’re they? British skinheads?

They are a small but vile and nasty extreme white nationalist group who like to stir up hatred and a number have been arrested for racially motivated harassment . The man who murdered left-wing MP Jo Cox last year also shouted “Britain First” before stabbing her to death.

They have also notably been accused and found to have doctored or misrepresented photographs of people (particularly Muslims) in order to generate hate.

Aside from the murder of an elected politician they have been ignored by people in the UK as much as possible. Nobody wants to give them publicity which would feed them. Today is a big set back.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2204 "2017-11-29T15:21:31Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> They are a small but vile and nasty extreme white nationalist group who like to stir up hatred and a number have been arrested for racially motivated harassment . The man who murdered left-wing MP Jo Cox last year also shouted “Britain First” before stabbing her to death.
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> They have also notably been accused and found to have doctored or misrepresented photographs of people (particularly Muslims) in order to generate hate.
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> Aside from the murder of an elected politician they have been ignored by people in the UK as much as possible. Nobody wants to give them publicity which would feed them. Today is a big set back.

Yay. Our president is a terrorist.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2205 "2017-11-29T15:28:32Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Aside from the murder of an elected politician they have been ignored by people in the UK as much as possible. Nobody wants to give them publicity which would feed them. Today is a big set back.

Thanks, Obama!

Oops…I mean, Trump!

:smack:

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2206 "2017-11-29T18:17:06Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Trump’s latest tweets:

Well what do you know; [fake news](https://www.snopes.com/video-beating-dutch-boy-crutches/) ! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2207 "2017-11-29T19:57:08Z")

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Is Snopes a publicly traded company? I’d like to get me some. They’re in today’s version of a “growth industry.”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2208 "2017-11-29T20:46:27Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Is Snopes a publicly traded company? I’d like to get me some. They’re in today’s version of a “growth industry.”

You would think so; but the people who most need Snopes in their life are the least likely to use it.

There have probably been a million arguments that follow this pattern:

Person A presents bullshit fake-news item.  
Person B refutes it with Snopes  
Person A presents 2nd bullshit fake-news item, that says Snopes is funded by George Soros and the Clinton Foundation.

End of debate.

This is what I lose sleep over. How will we ever get back to a time where we all work from the same set of facts?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2209 "2017-11-29T20:46:30Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Trump’s latest tweets:
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> Britain First… what’re they? British skinheads?

Well, anti-Muslim, anyway.

> **[Britain First](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_First)**
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> Britain First is a far-right, British fascist and neo-fascist political party and hate group formed in 2011 by former members of the British National Party (BNP). The group was founded by Jim Dowson, an anti-abortion and far-right campaigner. The organisation's co-leaders are former BNP councillor Paul Golding and Ashlea Simon. Jayda Fransen formerly served as its deputy leader.
> Britain First campaigns primarily against multiculturalism and what it sees as the Islamisation of the United King...

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2210 "2017-11-29T20:59:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Not sure where to post this, but this thread seems like a good place…
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> Why is it that, for example, after one accusation of sexual misconduct, Matt Lauer was FIRED (I’m not questioning the veracity of the accusation, just noting that there was one, so far, and his bosses acted promptly) but we have all seen video of Thump bragging about grabbing women’s genitals and he is still President?
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> Why is it that in the past few weeks, several men have been accused of sexual misconduct and have pretty much immediately [del]fallen[/del] \*\*plummeted \*\*from grace, but Thump said on video that women love it when he grabs them, and he is still President?
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> Men who were loved and respected by the public (Al Franken, Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey) have seen their reputations instantly shredded, but Thump is still President?
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> What makes him bulletproof (possibly a poor choice of words) on this topic?

What is the main difference? Well, that I see, that these people admitted their mistakes and apologized, while trump and co denies denies denies. [For instance.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfy6UywZE0I)

The lesson learned from this, it is better to deny the allegations, and call the women liars and worse, than it is to own up to your mistakes, apologize, and try to do what can be done to make things right.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2211 "2017-11-29T21:07:20Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> This is what I lose sleep over. How will we ever get back to a time where we all work from the same set of facts?

“We” (humanity) has never, ever been there. We seem to be losing gained ground though, regarding the ability to discern fact from fiction.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2212 "2017-11-29T21:08:42Z")

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Trump did admit to saying what he said on the tape, and he apologized. He said it was locker room talk. He addressed it again at the debate shortly afterwards. The fake news thing has only come up recently.

As far as calling the women who came forward with personal stories about him “liars”, he did do that.

I think Trump is a special case. People wanted to blow up the system. They would have voted for Pennywise, or a potted plant. They knew he was a lying bastard, but thought it wouldn’t affect them, or that it would be fun to watch the system break and didn’t care about the consequences.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2213 "2017-11-30T03:01:00Z")

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Oh, jeez. Now he’s back to birtherism: [http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-birth-certificate-nyt/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-birth-certificate-nyt/index.html)

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2214 "2017-11-30T13:25:58Z")

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Can we surmise that the Dotard is engaged in panic time poo flinging? It’s the only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2216 "2017-11-30T13:40:08Z")

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> [@4and1](#):
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> You actually watch or read CNN? Really?

Well, StormFront isn’t an option on everyone’s cable provider.

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2217 "2017-11-30T14:16:31Z")

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> [@4and1](#):
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> You actually watch or read CNN? Really?

Well granted, a shithead like you might have a little bit of a problem handling it when adults speak.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2218 "2017-11-30T14:32:11Z")

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> [@4and1](#):
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> You actually watch or read CNN? Really?

Since they are covering precisely what was tweeted what difference does it make?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2219 "2017-11-30T14:39:06Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Since they are covering precisely what was tweeted what difference does it make?

I never understand this either.

CNN: “President Trump said ‘Blah blah Blah’”

People who think he is the greatest thing ever - “Fake News!”  
How can a direct quote be fake news?

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2220 "2017-11-30T15:19:04Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> People who think he is the greatest thing ever - “Fake News!”  
> How can a direct quote be fake news?

I assume you’re referring to Sen. Orin Hatch saying Trump is the greatest president he’s ever served under.

Can you cite who called that statement, “Fake News”?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2221 "2017-11-30T15:27:23Z")

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No, you assume incorrectly.

I mean “voters and other random dumb people who think Trump is awesome and can do no wrong” call CNN and other outlets “Fake News!” even when the news is simply a reporting of direct quotes by the President and other members of the US Government.

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