# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2402 "2018-01-06T16:40:53Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> So…1D Candyland?

and he swallowed the dice.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2403 "2018-01-06T23:29:14Z")

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Donald “I especially like Article 12” Trump is complaining about the weak libel laws in the US, which allow people to just make stuff up in books like [Fire & Fury](https://www.amazon.com/Fire-Fury-Inside-Trump-White-ebook/dp/B077F4WZZY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1515281193&sr=8-1&keywords=fire+and+fury).

> **[Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free speech](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-free-speech-libel-law-michael-wolff-fire-fury-mental-state-latest-a8145741.html)**
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> President says that if legislation on libel was stronger 'you wouldn’t have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes into your head'

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> President Donald Trump has hit out at “very weak” libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive new book detailing the inner workings of the White House as “fiction”.
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> Suggesting he would like to see tougher laws on speech, Mr Trump said that if libel laws “were strong… you wouldn’t have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes into your head” – referring to Michael Wolff’s book Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House.

I got to admit - I kind of want to see Donald make it a law where it’s illegal to just say whatever comes into your head. Won’t happen, of course. But Donald “Obama is literally the founder of Isis” Trump would violate that law every six seconds.

Won’t happen, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2404 "2018-01-07T03:19:35Z")

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What kind of idjit actually declares himself to be “a very stable genius”? One guess: [http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/06/politics/president-donald-trump-stable-genius-smart/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/06/politics/president-donald-trump-stable-genius-smart/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2405 "2018-01-07T04:48:14Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> What kind of idjit actually declares himself to be “a very stable genius”?

The unstable kind.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2406 "2018-01-07T06:17:39Z")

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Serious question: As evidence that he is really smart, Trump offers “because I went to the best **colleges, or college**.”  
_Does he not remember whether he attended one college or two?_

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2407 "2018-01-07T16:06:29Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> The unstable kind.

The stupid unstable kind.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2408 "2018-01-07T17:44:52Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Serious question: As evidence that he is really smart, Trump offers “because I went to the best **colleges, or college**.”  
> _Does he not remember whether he attended one college or two?_

Misstatement. He’s got the BA from Penn, in “real estate.” Although he likes to give the impression he’s a Wharton MBA, he has no grad degrees. (Even Bush the Lesser managed to wangle a Harvard MBA.)

Or possibly he’s convinced himself he went to Columbia and Harvard (President Obama) or Georgetown and Yale (President Clinton).

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2409 "2018-01-07T18:50:23Z")

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Trump transferred to Wharton from Fordham, so he has in fact attended multiple colleges.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2410 "2018-01-07T19:39:51Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> Trump transferred to Wharton from Fordham, so he has in fact attended multiple colleges.

But, but… isn’t Fordham a (horrors) \*\*\*CATHOLIC \*\*\*college?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2411 "2018-01-07T20:58:19Z")

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What difference would that make? His metaphysical outlook is solely about the Universe revolving around HIM.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2412 "2018-01-07T21:30:55Z")

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Heh, my parents are both Fordham graduates from the same entering class as Trump, and I was really curious about how he did with the “everyone must take 18 credits of philosophy and theology” requirement, but my dad says the requirements for the business school were different.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2413 "2018-01-07T21:51:42Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> Heh, my parents are both Fordham graduates from the same entering class as Trump, and I was really curious about how he did with the “everyone must take 18 credits of philosophy and theology” requirement, but my dad says the requirements for the business school were different.

The business school at Fordham took 18 year old freshman undergrads? Aren’t you supposed to get an education, y’know, read a few books, before focusing your studies on grinding widows and orphans under your heels?

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**Author:** ![chaika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chaika/32/405_2.png) [@chaika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaika)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2414 "2018-01-07T23:56:15Z")

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A stable genius, eh? I just can’t even.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2415 "2018-01-08T06:03:01Z")

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> [@chaika](#):
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> A stable genius, eh? I just can’t even.

Does a stable genius means he’s not an ass but a mule ?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2416 "2018-01-08T17:59:17Z")

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Neigh.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2417 "2018-01-08T21:58:44Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Trump is asking for billions of dollars for [some border wall.](http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/border-security-billions-trump-wall/index.html) This must be a different border wall, because I thought Mexico was going to pay for that other one.

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> **from CNN article:**
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> Titled “Critical CBP Requirements to Improve Border Security,” the document says CBP has identified what a 2,026-mile border wall system would entail --comprising about 864 miles of new wall and about 1,163 miles of replacement or secondary wall – **even as administration officials and their allies insist they are not pursuing a wall “from sea to shining sea,” as Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and her predecessor John Kelly have testified to Congress**.

my bold - did President Orange Jumpsuit get the memo?

No - not clusterfucky at all.

> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> …the “everyone must take **18 credits** of philosophy and theology” requirement…

my bolded _shudder_ - isn’t that, like, six fucking courses of that shit?

I’m picturing starving, half-naked, somewhat hirsute lost souls chained up to dank, subterranean brick walls for such piled-on curricula.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2418 "2018-01-08T23:18:49Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by Fretful Porpentine View Post  
> > …the “everyone must take 18 credits of philosophy and theology” requirement…
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> my bolded _shudder_ - isn’t that, like, six fucking courses of that shit?

I took those courses at my college and they were not shit. Not at all.

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> I’m picturing starving, half-naked, somewhat hirsute lost souls chained up to dank, subterranean brick walls for such piled-on curricula.

Quite the opposite, actually.

That’s was college/university used to be for: to educate a person.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2419 "2018-01-08T23:41:56Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I took those courses at my college and they were not shit. Not at all.
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> Quite the opposite, actually.
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> That’s was college/university used to be for: to educate a person.

Yeah, I wasn’t sure why I needed a Philosophy & Logic class as a Biology major. But it was the most fun class I took! I wrote one exam in the form of a Pythonesque parody of The Merchant of Venice, the teacher organized cricket matches in the quad, and he invited us all to London to watch him get knighted!

Oh, he’s [written a lot of fun stuff](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/65228), including YA SciFi, and he dedicated his pop logic book "“How to Win Every Argument” to our class.  
Edited To Stay On Topic: Trump’s pissed me off by hating education like this.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2420 "2018-01-08T23:45:38Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Yeah, I wasn’t sure why I needed a Philosophy & Logic class as a Biology major. But it was the most fun class I took! I wrote one exam in the form of a Pythonesque parody of The Merchant of Venice, the teacher organized cricket matches in the quad, and he invited us all to London to watch him get knighted!
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> Oh, he’s [written a lot of fun stuff](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/65228), including YA SciFi, and he dedicated his pop logic book "“How to Win Every Argument” to our class.

Whereas my first philosophy teacher flunked me because I disagreed with him on things, and my philosophy-curriculum logic class was a surreal experience where people genuinely struggled with the concept of “and”. YMMV definitely applies.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2421 "2018-01-09T00:18:42Z")

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One of the most enjoyable classes I had at Yale was **Chinese Poetics of the Late T’ang Dynasty,** taught by the young Stephen Cohen, whose enthusiasm was contagious to me and the other four kids in the room.

It didn’t make me rich or help me “network,” but I’ve continued to read Asian literature ever since, and I know a heck of a lot about how wars were fought in old China, about the ninth century in general, and that Chinese people look up into trees to see flowers instead of down at bushes or borders (it makes a big difference in the context of poetry).

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