# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2522 "2018-01-12T23:20:14Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> And don’t forget the pot smoking liberals.

Not to mention negroes and them queer-o-sexuals.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2523 "2018-01-13T04:03:48Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Trump’s supporters will never consider remarks like “shit hole countries” to be unseemly. Trump is just “telling it like it is”.

But now he denies saying it. So now they should be asking: does he not think so or is he a cowardly liar ?

But they don’t.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2524 "2018-01-13T05:17:37Z")

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Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R. Florida) put in her two cents’ worth on President Dead Wombat’s “shithole” comment on PBS Newshour tonight, saying it “takes your breath away”…“This is a president who has a sordid, terrible history of making racist statements.”

sheesh, impossible…to imagine: (with strumming harps and cotton-clouded skies)…

Um,

CAN WE POSSIBLY GET SOME FUCKING 'PUB ON BOARD, HERE, OTHER THAN A HAITIAN- AND CUBAN-AMERICAN?

> [@bobot](#):
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> Has Sarah Huckabee Sanders spoken yet on Trump’s “shithole” comments? I’d love to hear her flat out deny it given Durbin’s comments.

::arms crossed, finger tapping impatiently against (actually amazingly:rolleyes:cut) bicep::

Surely some _mind-in-the-gutter_ ink-stained-wretch media type will have the temerity to assail her with such a fake newsy assault.\*

\*I wouldn’t even listen to SHS now. I’ve long since stopped listening to преЦАРдент Trump, as well as Ryan, McConnell, Pence, or pretty well most Republicans, with the exception of maybe Lankford if he’s talking about bipartisan electoral reform, and maybe one or two others who might happen to tease me with a fleeting moment of lucid, fair-minded, intelligent, honest discourse. The fast forward button is sacrosanct manna. I just let the newscasters succintly distill all that insulting-as-fuck-horsehit-to-listen-to, for me.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2525 "2018-01-13T06:42:31Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Trump’s supporters will never consider remarks like “shit hole countries” to be unseemly. Trump is just “telling it like it is”.

I’m not a Trump supporter but in this case I don’t think he’s wrong. There _are_ shithole countries and while it’s undiplomatic to say that when the microphone is on, it’s not untrue.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2526 "2018-01-13T07:01:02Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I’d like to bet that you get no answers to this question. Or the answer will be “I’ve posted it in many threads, I’m not retelling it here!”

Oh, is this the thread where **Starving Artist** answers question? Here are three yes/no questions from three months ago that must have slipped his mind — he did say he’d answer when he had time.

> [@Clinton: We made a person who committed sexual assault president](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/121):
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> Oh; I apologize, **Mr. Artist.** I didn’t know you voted for Hillary. I guess I should place you with **Bricker** , then — as a right-winger smart enough not to like Trump, even though you agree with most of his agenda. Is that right? What made you change your mind? — Was it when you figured out that everything Trump says is a lie?
> 
> Do you mind answering three questions so we can understand your perspective?
> 
> 1. Recently Trump called the bereaved widow of Sgt. Johnson, while her Congressperson listened. Trump says Johnson and the Rep. are lying; they say he is. Whom do you believe?
> 
> 2. What’s your gut feel about complicity between Putin and a major U.S. campaign? Is it Hillary’s team or Trump’s that is probably more guilty?
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> 3. Was Trump’s early concern about Obama’s birthplace legitimate?
> 
> Let’s just start there. I sincerely want to understand your position.  
> Thanks in advance.

> [@Clinton: We made a person who committed sexual assault president](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-we-made-a-person-who-committed-sexual-assault-president/798875/124):
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> I said I didn’t vote for Trump; I didn’t say I voted for Hillary. (Came _this_ close, but just couldn’t pull the trigger.) 😛
> 
> As for the rest of your post, I don’t have time right now neither to go into all that nor all the things that would probably spin off from it because work beckons. Maybe some other time, now that you’re being all reasonable and shit. 😉

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2527 "2018-01-13T07:18:25Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I’m not a Trump supporter but in this case I don’t think he’s wrong. There _are_ shithole countries and while it’s undiplomatic to say that when the microphone is on, it’s not untrue.

I don’t think anyone would disagree with that sentiment, however inelegantly expressed. The reprehensible part of Trumps statement wasn’t the s-word. It was the belief that we should only take immigrants from prosperous white nations.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2528 "2018-01-13T07:27:05Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Oh, is this the thread where **Starving Artist** answers question? Here are three yes/no questions from three months ago that must have slipped his mind — he did say he’d answer when he had time.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2529 "2018-01-13T07:31:36Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I don’t think anyone would disagree with that sentiment, however inelegantly expressed. The reprehensible part of Trumps statement wasn’t the s-word. It was the belief that we should only take immigrants from prosperous white nations.

HeexpressednoschbeliefThere’sawiderangeofworldottherethatfitsbetweenprosperotsandwhiteandshithole

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2530 "2018-01-13T07:40:29Z")

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Bloody Welshman.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2531 "2018-01-13T07:47:30Z")

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I usually try to stay out of this stuff, because opinions are like shitholes (:)) and they don’t sway anybody, but here it is anyway;

Legal immigration is fine, illegal is not. That is all.

Legal immigration would be\*\* ideal\*\* from countries that are not crime riddled, doesn’t matter which one. It won’t happen because there isn’t a way to vet potential citizens without making the P.C. mob go insane. The U.S. doesn’t OWE anyone citizenship. Not from Europe, Mexico, S.A., Asia, ANYWHERE.

Letting anyone and everyone in is not a feasible option anymore. It will not work. Legal or Illegal. The politicians are just trying to word things correctly so as not to harm anyone’s feelings or keep their elected office, lest they be branded a ‘racist’ or some other arbitrary term from those who disagree. Whether he did or did not say those things about some countries, doesn’t change the fact that it is true. Most of them are shit.

I don’t really see what all of the commotion is. Poor word choices that hurt feelings have become more important than actual solutions.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2532 "2018-01-13T08:03:21Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Let’sseeifyoucanfigurethisoutIspilledwateronmykeyboardlastnightandnowit’shosed,nospaces,noperiods,nocomasandwhoknowswhatelseI’llresmepostingwhenthisoneeitherdriesoutandbecomesworkableorIgetanewoneta-ta

I’m guessing you spilled your “water” as you were reading about Trump talking dirty.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2533 "2018-01-13T09:19:51Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> HeexpressednoschbeliefThere’sawiderangeofworldottherethatfitsbetweenprosperotsandwhiteandshithole

Didn’t he specifically mention Norwegians, and that we should be trying to get more of them? I don’t consider Norway a shithole, but I could be mistaken. And, given Trump’s history of not liking non-white people, it’s kinda hard to be charitable about his thought process.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2534 "2018-01-13T09:31:10Z")

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2535 "2018-01-13T09:34:50Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I don’t think anyone would disagree with that sentiment, however inelegantly expressed.

I disagree with that sentiment for any version of “shithole” I can think of.  
Well, I mean we could use that term \*hyperbolically \*for failed states or war-torn countries but he applied that tag to all of africa for example.

I think it’s interesting because Trump’s statement is ignorant, but this time it’s based on a flavor of ignorance that’s quite common in the US. Even the left-leaning talk shows struggled to explain what was wrong with what he said and focused on the racist implications (which admittedly are terrible).

A lot of americans really do imagine all of africa as essentially desert, with impoverished, uneducated people living in huts. If you showed someone in Africa an iPhone, they’d worship you as a God!

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2537 "2018-01-13T11:26:05Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Let’sseeifyoucanfigurethisoutIspilledwateronmykeyboardlastnightandnowit’shosed,nospaces,noperiods,nocomasandwhoknowswhatelseI’llresmepostingwhenthisoneeitherdriesoutandbecomesworkableorIgetanewoneta-ta

Sonothingbutthelettersandyourshiftkeyworkisthatitnonumbersorpunctuationmarkslikesayahyphenisthataboutrightwowlookslikeyouvegotarealproblemthere

Ohlookthsioneworksforme:rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2538 "2018-01-13T12:00:24Z")

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> [@anomalous1](#):
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> I usually try to stay out of this stuff, because opinions are like shitholes (:)) and they don’t sway anybody, but here it is anyway;
> 
> Legal immigration is fine, illegal is not. That is all.
> 
> Legal immigration would be\*\* ideal\*\* from countries that are not crime riddled, doesn’t matter which one. It won’t happen because there isn’t a way to vet potential citizens without making the P.C. mob go insane. The U.S. doesn’t OWE anyone citizenship. Not from Europe, Mexico, S.A., Asia, ANYWHERE.
> 
> Letting anyone and everyone in is not a feasible option anymore. It will not work. Legal or Illegal. The politicians are just trying to word things correctly so as not to harm anyone’s feelings or keep their elected office, lest they be branded a ‘racist’ or some other arbitrary term from those who disagree. Whether he did or did not say those things about some countries, doesn’t change the fact that it is true. Most of them are shit.
> 
> I don’t really see what all of the commotion is. Poor word choices that hurt feelings have become more important than actual solutions.

You’re a fucking idiot. This nation was built by people escaping shithole countries.

You don’t think there are good people in poor, underdeveloped countries? People striving for a better life? You don’t think there is vetting?

And now, thanks to Trump, America is the shithole. Filled with shitheads like you.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2539 "2018-01-13T13:05:14Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> TrphasnohistoryofnotlikeingblackpeopleThisisaleftwinginvention

Well, [Fortune](http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/) magazine disagrees with you. As did the New York court system when it was revealed that Trump didn’t want to rent apartments to black people.

Or the “Central Park Five,” who were exonerated by DNA evidence after spending many years in prison for a crime they didn’t commit. Trump has persisted in suggesting that they were guilty, even after the DNA evidence proved that they were not responsible for the crime.

Or his history of not wanting to see black employees in his casinos. There are several articles that detail how he didn’t want to see them counting his money.

Hell, [here’s](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race) a collection of Trump’s racist remarks and actions, starting from the 1970s, and ending with his “shithole” statement. But I’m sure these never happened. It’s all a left-wing invention.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2540 "2018-01-13T14:37:33Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> I disagree with that sentiment for any version of “shithole” I can think of.  
> Well, I mean we could use that term \*hyperbolically \*for failed states or war-torn countries but he applied that tag to all of africa for example.

Not all of Africa is a shithole, but there’s certainly quite a few very poor countries most Europeans wouldn’t be spending their holidays anywhere near on the continent. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable thing to say.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2541 "2018-01-13T15:38:05Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Not all of Africa is a shithole, but there’s certainly quite a few very poor countries most Europeans wouldn’t be spending their holidays anywhere near on the continent. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable thing to say.

There are parts of America where I couldn’t be paid to spend my holidays. From this I conclude that the US is a shithole.

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