# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2642 "2018-01-14T13:41:46Z")

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> [@anomalous1](#):
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> Also, it’s not very polite to reply with an insult. You reap what you sow. Remember that.

It’s the Pit, moron. If you want to debate policy, there are other forums for that. This is where you go when you feel like insulting rape apologist scum like Fartist or random Trumptards who can’t comprehend forum descriptions, such as yourself. I know there will have to be a lot of hand-holding in this piss poor version of America, but holy fuck is it tiresome.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2643 "2018-01-14T13:53:46Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Liberals can never see the good in anything and can always be counted on to focus in on the small amount of what’s wrong with anything and want to tear it all down, even if the overall result would be exponentially worse, and it usually is. To hear liberals tell it there is nothing good in or about this country, and any and everything gets called sexist or racist …

In reality, the _ **opposite** _ is true. _ **Right-wingers** _ see no good in universal healthcare; right-wingers see no good in public parks; right-wingers see no good in non-white races, non-Christian religions, homosexual love. Right-wingers see no good in voting rights, relief from financial predators, environmental protection. Right-wingers see no good in human beings from “shithole” countries. Is America “exponentially worse off” because of its public education, environmental protection, etc.? Would America have been “exponentially better off” if, as many right-wingers wanted, no remedies were applied to the 2008 financial crisis?

And you, **Starving** , are a Trump-sucker who won’t even admit how horrid and despicable your man is:

> [@septimus](#):
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> Oh, is this the thread where **Starving Artist** answers question? Here are three yes/no questions from three months ago that must have slipped his mind — he did say he’d answer when he had time.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Let’sseeifyoucanfigurethisoutIspilledwateronmykeyboardlastnightandnowit’shosed,nospaces,noperiods,nocomasandwhoknowswhatelseI’llresmepostingwhenthisoneeitherdriesoutandbecomesworkableorIgetanewoneta-ta

Will your “keyboard break” every time you’re asked uncomfortable questions?

> [@anomalous1](#):
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> Legal immigration is fine, illegal is not. That is all.
> 
> Legal immigration would be\*\* ideal\*\* from countries that are not crime riddled, doesn’t matter which one. It won’t happen because there isn’t a way to vet potential citizens without making the P.C. mob go insane. The U.S. doesn’t OWE anyone citizenship.

Satisfy our curiosity, **anomalous1** :  
(1) Do you think child rape, financial fraud and treason constitute “crime”?  
(2) Are you aware that the future Melania Trump was working illegally in the U.SA. as a non-immigrant?  
(3) Do you know the difference between “alien resident” and “citizen”?

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2644 "2018-01-14T13:57:33Z")

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**Starving Artist** :

A Scandinavian guy here. Pretty much everything you said about Scandinavia is wrong. Read again what **Wolfpup** and **2square4u** write, they obviously know what they are talking about.

And since you mentioned Obama, we have politicians like him here also.  
We call them religious right-wing conservatives. So take a guess what we think about Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2645 "2018-01-14T14:16:22Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> Norway is the happiest place on Earth.
> 
> [Here’s the entire list.](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-39325206)
> 
> Those poor, poor, happy liberals.

In Norway, WE’RE the shithole.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2646 "2018-01-14T14:18:48Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> **Starving Artist** :
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> Pretty much everything you said about Scandinavia is wrong.

That’s SA for you - reliably wrong but never in doubt.

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2647 "2018-01-14T14:23:07Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> In Norway, WE’RE the shithole.

[Indeed](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-norway-trump-20180113-story.html)

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> Emigration from Norway to the U.S. hit its peak in 1882 when almost 29,000 mostly poor Norwegians crossed the Atlantic. In 2016, however, only 1,114 Norwegians moved to the U.S., while 1,603 Americans moved to Norway.

What I found rather interesting though was this:

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> The comments came after Trump met Wednesday with Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg in Washington.

So whatever is the last thing he heard about?

My favorite part:

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> National Norwegian broadcaster TV2 went to the streets in Oslo on Friday, asking people if they wanted to move to the U.S. None said they wanted to leave.
> 
> “Absolutely not,” one unidentified man said. And an unnamed woman added: “If they get a new president.”

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2648 "2018-01-14T14:25:38Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> \*I keep such bottles of plonk on hand for just such an occasion.

Ah yes, Châteauneuf-du-Plonque (Appellation d’origine contrôlée): the grapes that never sour. Enjoy in [lieu of] moderation.

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**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2649 "2018-01-14T14:29:42Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> \*\*since you mentioned Obama, we have politicians like him here also.  
> We call them religious right-wing conservatives. So take a guess what we think about Republicans.

I like to say that by European standards I’m slightly left-of-center on social politics. Which brands me firmly as a raving Socialist by US standards.

That’s somewhat amusing.

Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2650 "2018-01-14T14:32:41Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> In Norway, WE’RE the shithole.

I’ve tried to avoid being too rude to a whole country where there’s also decent people living (and I apologise for not being able to do that), but yeah. Spot on.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2651 "2018-01-14T14:37:44Z")

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> [@anomalous1](#):
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> I’m not going to pretend to know, but AFAIK, the rampant pollution, lack of workers rights by comparison, authoritarianism and political corruptness are a bit more far reaching in such a large populace…

This is a very good outline of Trumps MAGA plan.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2652 "2018-01-14T14:50:14Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> This is a very good outline of Trumps MAGA plan.

Little known fact, _“I’m not going to pretend to know…”_, is the start of the Trump MAGA pledge.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2653 "2018-01-14T15:01:26Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> But, since you asked, I have chosen to live in [Asia], and I rejected the chance to work in the US. For me, I’ve always found US culture a bit bizarre, with the whole “god and guns” thing, and recently it’s taken a turn for the worst. The culture was already moving to being more adversarial and anti-intellectual; Trump is just a symptom of all that.

You and me both, **Mijin** , and I was even [Born in the U.S.A.(\*)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3lmbHNCC0Q) Where I live now, health care is very affordable. If I had another heart attack while visiting U.S.A. I’d have to say “Please just take me straight to the morgue — don’t bankrupt my family.” Another reason I don’t even want to visit that shit-hole is I might accidentally strike up a conversation with some ape like **Starving Artist**. I’d break up in laughter at his stupidity and he’d pull out one his handguns and shoot me.

(\* - Click the link to see the lyrics to this famous song. If you had any remaining doubt about Republican stupidity know that they chose this “patriotic” song for the Convention that nominated Trump. :smack: )

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2654 "2018-01-14T15:18:27Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> You and me both, **Mijin** , and I was even [Born in the U.S.A.(\*)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3lmbHNCC0Q) Where I live now, health care is very affordable. If I had another heart attack while visiting U.S.A. I’d have to say “Please just take me straight to the morgue — don’t bankrupt my family.” Another reason I don’t even want to visit that shit-hole is I might accidentally strike up a conversation with some ape like **Starving Artist**. I’d break up in laughter at his stupidity and he’d pull out one his handguns and shoot me.
> 
> (\* - Click the link to see the lyrics to this famous song. If you had any remaining doubt about\*\* Republican stupidity know that they chose this “patriotic” song for the Convention that nominated Trump. :smack: )\*\*

That started with Reagan in 1984

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2655 "2018-01-14T16:09:31Z")

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So what’s the over/under for the number of pages we’re going to waste on the **Starving Artist/anomalous1** show?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2656 "2018-01-14T16:48:47Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> outside the realm of racial and sexual equality

> [@](#):
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> liberal permissiveness and its offshoots

You two shout it out between yourselves and get back to us.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2657 "2018-01-14T17:11:26Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yes, I know liberals love to allege this. Yet everyone wants to come here.
> 
> Further, it’s easy to be happy as long as one’s immediate needs are met, but that doesn’t mean that one has reached his **maximum capacity for happiness**. One can only wonder how much happier the residents of Norway would be were they allowed the opportunities, advantages, freedoms and lifestyles many Americans enjoy.

Had to come back for this, because this proves that you really don’t understand Scandinavia. The bolded part alone speaks volumes.  
The one thing we abhor most in Americans is the overblown greed. You’ve been brainwashed to think that everything must be bigger, faster, higher and shinier like that would mean better.  
It isn’t if you ask us. We don’t want to live in houses or drive cars that are unnecessary big, shiny or whatever. We think that if it’s adequate it’s the best option. If a person here wins a million in lottery his neighbour probably doesn’t notice a thing. He pays all his loans away and maybe gets a newer version of his current cars and something like that. Nobody here goes on a crazy spending spree wasting all in a matter of months. We are mostly very modest people and when we get enough that’s all we want.

And THAT is the reason why we are among the happiest people in the world. We hate that robber baron mentality that America has and don’t want any of it - like the socialist liberals that we are.

And that American “freedom” ? In any other western country that would be called anarchy, especially with all those guns. No thanks !

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2658 "2018-01-14T18:48:49Z")

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> [@anomalous1](#):
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> By the way, I never said there weren’t good people in poorer countries. People can strive for a better life, but at what cost to the rest of us, is that ever considered? **If you are an American, try putting YOUR country first, instead of caring about everybody else and their problems**. Oh, and vetting should be more strict and based on MERIT and SKILL.
> 
> There you go.
> 
> Sorry pal, Trump won and you’ve got to live with it. Go protest or get a rally going at your indie coffee shop if it’ll make you feel better and make you quit stomping your feet with your fingers in your ears. Also, it’s not very polite to reply with an insult. **You reap what you sow. Remember that.**

Right, which is why when America is in trouble, thanks to assholes like yourself who don’t give a shit about the rest of the world, we can count on the rest of the world letting us crash and burn.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2659 "2018-01-14T18:49:58Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> So what’s the over/under for the number of pages we’re going to waste on the **Starving Artist/anomalous1** show?

Trumpetters seems to get the loudest and the more obtuse the more idiocy they see coming from their “alpha” male.

I see it as showing others how corrosive Trump and the current Republicans in power are. The fish is indeed rotting from the head, \*\*and even conservatives (the ones with brains other than a goldfish) know that we have in the white house is not normal nor good.  
\*\*

[https://news.vice.com/en\_us/article/ne49gb/trumps-shithole-comments-were-the-most-openly-racist-by-a-president-in-decades-historians-say](https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/ne49gb/trumps-shithole-comments-were-the-most-openly-racist-by-a-president-in-decades-historians-say)

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> Trump’s “shithole” comments were the most openly racist by a president in decades, historians say

[http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368967-conservative-writer-trump-called-friends-to-brag-about-s-hole](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368967-conservative-writer-trump-called-friends-to-brag-about-s-hole)

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> A conservative columnist said President Trump called friends to brag after the meeting in which the president reportedly referred to Haiti, El Salvador and African nations as “shithole countries.”
> 
> “It’s weird that people in the room don’t remember Trump using that word when Trump himself was calling friends to brag about it afterwards,” Erick Erickson, who has in the past been critical of Trump, said in a tweet.
> 
> “I spoke to one of those friends. The President thought it would play well with the base.”

> **[Former RNC Chair Michael Steele: It's "Incontrovertible" That Donald Trump Is...](https://www.gq.com/story/rnc-chair-donald-trump-is-a-racist)**
>
> Better late than never.

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> Former RNC Chair Michael Steele: It’s “Incontrovertible” That Donald Trump Is a Racist

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/14/republicans-often-point-to-rep-mia-love-as-proof-of-their-inclusivity-but-she-thinks-trumps-comments-are-racist/?utm\_term=.ca8d8fa312e4](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/14/republicans-often-point-to-rep-mia-love-as-proof-of-their-inclusivity-but-she-thinks-trumps-comments-are-racist/?utm_term=.ca8d8fa312e4)

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> Republicans often point to Rep. Mia Love as proof of their inclusivity. But she thinks Trump’s comments are racist.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2660 "2018-01-14T19:18:23Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yes, I know liberals love to allege this. Yet everyone wants to come here.

Give up my ten days paid sick leave and four weeks paid annual leave? Ahahahaha. Oh yeah, about that “we jest lurves our freedoms” stuff? [The United States doesn’t even crack the top ten in free-estness.](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-11-29/these-are-the-freest-countries-in-the-world) You’re 23rd. Face it, idiot, it isn’t 1907 any more, or even 1947: much of the world views _your_ country as the shithole.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2661 "2018-01-14T19:35:09Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Makes my decision that much easier. See, about nine years ago I came to the unavoidable conclusion that if **Starving Artist** ever accidentally posted something that was important for me to know, I’d eventually see the same information posted by someone else; someone who had NOT pigheadeadly demonstrated an unflinching dedication to pursuing the ideal of being wrong as often as possible.
> 
> So, I went to the wine cellar, uncorked (well unscrewed the bottle cap from) the cheapest rotgut in my stores,\* and raised a glass to the last post of his I would ever deliberately read.
> 
> As I now do to yours.
> 
> \*I keep such bottles of plonk on hand for just such an occasion.

Since I suspect he’s just a sock of **SA** , you’ve failed at not deliberately reading his posts. But I hear you. Trash is trash, and that’s what the Ignore list is for. I would urge people not to feed trolls.

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