# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2922 "2018-01-21T03:37:22Z")

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This has been a new update from ClothyCloudCuckooland.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2923 "2018-01-21T03:37:41Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> No, actually, I’m not. And yes, Trump is responsible. The stock market was stagnant until the elections. When Trump was elected, it took off. If Hillary had been elected, it would probably have dropped considerably.

You call [this](http://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years) stagnant?  
Fucking lying sack of shit.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2924 "2018-01-21T03:46:30Z")

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It’s kind of amazing how **Humpy** manages to post absolutely nothing but delusional figments of his own twisted and ignorant imagination.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2925 "2018-01-21T03:55:55Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It’s kind of amazing how **Humpy** manages to post absolutely nothing but delusional figments of his own twisted and ignorant imagination.

It’s like he doesn’t understand that the past can be looked up.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2926 "2018-01-21T04:28:00Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Hell yes it’s worrying, and how many times has it recently happened, “because Republicans”.

HAHAHAHA, government shuts down when Republicans are in the minority and it’s obstruction and the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!!! Now government shuts down while the Democrats are the ones in the minority committing obstructionism and it’s still the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!

You guys are priceless!

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**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2927 "2018-01-21T04:42:55Z")

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Are you referring to the 1990 shutdown?

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2928 "2018-01-21T04:47:52Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> HAHAHAHA, government shuts down when Republicans are in the minority and it’s obstruction and the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!!! Now government shuts down while the Democrats are the ones in the minority committing obstructionism and it’s still the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!
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> You guys are priceless!

Mate, you’re missing the wider point: Regardless of which party is in charge, don’t you think it’s concerning _the federal government of the world’s pre-eminent first-world country_ can just shut down _on more than one occasion in the past few years_ because it’s metaphorically waiting for a cheque that’s allegedly in the mail?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2929 "2018-01-21T05:53:58Z")

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> [@Martini Enfield](#):
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> Mate, you’re missing the wider point: Regardless of which party is in charge, don’t you think it’s concerning the federal government of the world’s pre-eminent first-world country can just shut down…

Yes I do.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2930 "2018-01-21T06:26:09Z")

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@ **Martini Enfield** — Welcome to the world’s RealityTV show, led by a master of reality TV, the bigliest and smartliest reality TV host ever.

For the next few years of this show, the theme will be horror. Switch channels if you don’t like it. Can’t do it? That’s because Trump is now on all the channels, ha ha! A decade or two from now you may long for these days of mere horror: Much of the damage America is suffering will be permanent; the era of American stature and American freedom will just be a sad memory.

Encourage your kids and grandkids to learn Chinese in school.

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Ever wonder who is stupid enough to watch and believe Alex Jones or Sean Hannity? Such cretins deserve our pity, not our condemnation. Thus some of the criticism wingtards have received in the thread is not entirely fair:

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Fucking lying sack of shit.

I don’t think sacks of shit are sentient enough to lie. While **Mr. Hump** may not be sentient enough to formulate a deliberate lie, I am almost certain that he is more sentient than a bag of shit. Can we meet each other halfway, and call **Mr. Hump** a sack of _semi_-sentient shit? … Anybody know if lawnmower-girl has let him grab her pussy yet?

> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Mate, you’re missing the wider point: Regardless of which party is in charge, don’t you think it’s concerning _the federal government of the world’s pre-eminent first-world country_ can just shut down _on more than one occasion in the past few years_ because it’s metaphorically waiting for a cheque that’s allegedly in the mail?

**Mr. Enfield** , _you_ are missing the wider point. **Starving Artist** is also a sack of semi-sentient shit (and like **Humpy** may be too stupid to actually lie), but he watches enough Alex Jones to know that shutting down the government is a _good_ thing … as long as the feds keep their filthy hands off his Medicare, Social Security, and his military. National parks? Financial regulation? Environmental protection? State department and trade negotiators? _ **Shut down everything and let the Free Market work its magic.** _

This is why the GOP may win its “game of chicken.” Democrats have a sense of responsibility and want to avoid chaos. For the GOPsters, “governance” is just about stealing money with both hands while behaving like 12-year old sadistic bullies toward thoughtful Americans, posterity, America’s honor, and the rest of the world.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2931 "2018-01-21T06:29:14Z")

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Who’s Alex Jones?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2932 "2018-01-21T07:06:41Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> He was gonna get to wear a party hat and ride a pony and _everything_! :(:(☹

Was he going to borrow Roy Moore’s horse? :eek: Poor Sassy, hasn’t she suffered enough already? ☹

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2933 "2018-01-21T07:19:51Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> HAHAHAHA, government shuts down when Republicans are in the minority and it’s obstruction and the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!!! Now government shuts down while the Democrats are the ones in the minority committing obstructionism and it’s still the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!
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> You guys are priceless!

I hope you lost your balls in a cycling accident when you were ten. Stupid like you shouldn’t breed.

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2934 "2018-01-21T07:38:01Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> HAHAHAHA, government shuts down when Republicans are in the minority and it’s obstruction and the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!!! Now government shuts down while the Democrats are the ones in the minority committing obstructionism and it’s still the Republicans’ fault and teh worst. thing. evar!
> 
> You guys are priceless!

The 2013 shutdown was absolutely the fault of the Republicans. Note that in 2013 the Republicans had a majority in the House, Democrats in the Senate.

Republicans: We won’t pass a budget with you, unless you dismantle the health care program you spent a year roaming the country promoting and years fighting for in Congress, finally got passed, is the only major policy difference between this administration and Bush Jr, and was pushed so much by the President we’ve literally put his name on it. Millions of Americans will be denied healthcare coverage, and millions more will continue to be denied care on the basis of pre-existing conditions, Oh, and you’ll also be committing political suicide.

Democrats: No.

Republicans: Do you see these unreasonable Democrats! They never want to work with us on a bipartisan compromise!

Democrats: But we never even tried for single-payer, we abandoned a public option without a fight, and our health plan was from the beginning a conservative idea crafted by The Heritage Foundation and implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts.

Republicans: Obstructionists!

As for the current shutdown - it’s absolutely the GOP’s fault. They control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. The fact that they can’t get their shit together enough to vote together on anything is their problem. If they weren’t taking hostages by yanking healthcare from 9 million children (defunding CHIP which was previously widely supported by both parties for helping kids of working-poor families not, well, die) and 800,000 working American residents who grew up as children of undocumented immigrants (DACA), maybe they could have got some Democrats to vote for their budget despite all the bullshit that’s in it.

Some of the blame DOES lie with the Democrats this time though, because they’re fucking shitty negotiators. You don’t go to the table demanding just the two things you have to have - CHIP and DACA. You demand ten things, then let the other side negotiate downward. Then they can declare victory, which is the only thing Trump cares about, and the GOP gets to tell the voters all the ludicrous liberal shit they blocked.

Meanwhile 9 million kids don’t lose health insurance, thousands of them don’t die, and we don’t kick 800,000 people out of the U.S. to go to countries they’ve never seen to be homeless and jobless, and wreck our economy in the process by removing their businesses, buying power, and labor from our own economy.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2935 "2018-01-21T07:44:19Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> @ **Martini Enfield** — Welcome to the world’s RealityTV show, led by a master of reality TV, the bigliest and smartliest reality TV host ever.
> 
> For the next few years of this show, the theme will be horror. Switch channels if you don’t like it. Can’t do it? That’s because Trump is now on all the channels, ha ha! A decade or two from now you may long for these days of mere horror: Much of the damage America is suffering will be permanent; the era of American stature and American freedom will just be a sad memory.
> 
> Encourage your kids and grandkids to learn Chinese in school.

I live in Australia. I’m not an American.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2936 "2018-01-21T07:53:50Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I live in Australia. I’m not an American.

And I have no idea who Alex Jones is.

Looks like our pre-eminent stupidity insulter isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer himself. No surprise there, but still…

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2937 "2018-01-21T08:02:13Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And I have no idea who Alex Jones is.
> 
> Looks like our pre-eminent stupidity insulter isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer himself. No surprise there, but still…

I’m not familiar with Alex Jones either, other than knowing his name as being a political pundit of some sort in the US.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2938 "2018-01-21T08:17:22Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I live in Australia. I’m not an American.

😕 You made it clear you’re not American. All the more reason why your kids should learn Chinese. What was unclear in what I wrote? For better or worse, America’s foibles have long-term effects throughout the world.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And I have no idea who Alex Jones is.

So maybe you get your ideas from Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter instead. Who cares?

Your stupidity is exceeded only by your obstinance. You “_know_” socialized medicine is bad; your favorable experience with Medicare can’t change that. You _knew_ Trump had an MBA. Do you ever wonder if maybe, what you “_know_” isn’t always true?

Questions:  
(1) Do you still repeat your claim that health insurers pay out 97% of premiums in benefits? _Please deny you ever said that_ — it would demonstrate your feeble-mindedness with certitude _since your words are engraved forever in the SDMB archive._  
(2) [this was asked of you before but I didn’t catch your answer.] How much time have you spent in “socialist” countries? Do you even have a passport?  
(3) You want us to believe you’re sentient. Fine. Read [this essay by a top foreign policy thinker](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/is-trump-ending-the-american-era/537888/) and impress us with a summary.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2939 "2018-01-21T08:21:23Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I live in Australia. I’m not an American.

😕 You’d already made it clear you’re not American. All the more reason why your kids should learn Chinese. What was unclear in what I wrote? For better or worse, America’s foibles have long-term effects throughout the world.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And I have no idea who Alex Jones is.

So maybe you get your ideas from Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter instead. Who cares?

Your stupidity is exceeded only by your obstinance. You “_know_” socialized medicine is bad; your favorable experience with Medicare can’t change that. You _knew_ Trump had an MBA. Do you ever wonder if maybe, what you “_know_” isn’t always true?

Questions:  
(1) Do you still repeat your claim that health insurers pay out 97% of premiums in benefits? _Please deny you ever said that_ — it would demonstrate your feeble-mindedness with certitude _since your words are engraved forever in the SDMB archive._  
(2) [this was asked of you before but I didn’t catch your answer.] How much time have you spent in “socialist” countries? Do you even have a passport?  
(3) You want us to believe you’re sentient. Fine. Read [this essay by a top foreign policy thinker](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/is-trump-ending-the-american-era/537888/) and impress us with a summary.

PS for **Martini** : If the YouTube carnival barker named Alex Jones qualifies as “political pundit” then America is in even worse shape than we thought.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2940 "2018-01-21T08:26:52Z")

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**Author:** ![AI\_Proofreader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@AI\_Proofreader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AI_Proofreader)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2941 "2018-01-21T08:44:44Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I’m not familiar with Alex Jones either, other than knowing his name as being a political pundit of some sort in the US.

He’s a Christian Fundamentalist conspiracy-theorist, known for such gems as:

1. The government is poisoning us from the skies with jet exhaust / chemtrails
2. There are chemicals in the water turning everyone gay. Even the frogs!
3. Hillary Clinton is running a child sex-slave ring from the basement of a pizza shop
4. Reptilian aliens posing as humans have infiltrated and taken over our government. They’re also demons. And they’re running a child sex-slave ring on a secret Martian mining colony.
5. The Sandy Hook massacre was a false flag event that didn’t really happen, in order to take away our guns!
6. Obama (and Bush, and Clinton, and Bush Sr…) is going to shove us all into FEMA concentration camps.  
(Not Trump though. Apparently if you come on Alex Jones’ show and say a few kind words to him, he develops a mancrush and he’s suddenly okay with our Reptilian Alien Demon Overlords.)

Sadly, even given all that, he still has a following of well over 2 million people:

> **[Alex Jones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones)**
>
> Alexander Emerick Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American far-right, alt-right radio show host and prominent conspiracy theorist.\[a\] He hosts The Alex Jones Show from Austin, Texas, which previously the Genesis Communications Network broadcast across the United States via syndicated and internet radio. Jones's website, InfoWars, promotes conspiracy theories and fake news, as do his other websites, NewsWars and PrisonPlanet. Jones has provided a platform and s The conspiracy theories th...

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