# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2942 "2018-01-21T08:50:29Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> So maybe you get your ideas from Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter instead. Who cares?

Those interested in knowing the truth? Or simply knowing what they’re talking about, perhaps? After all, you’re the one who’s so quick to call people stupid whenever they post something that your limited intellect supposes to be in error, so it seems you should want to be doubly sure of your own words and suppositions. You aren’t, of course. You just shoot from the hip in blind obedience to whatever moronic stereotypes and idiotic imaginings pop into your otherwise empty head.

A few points of fact:

I don’t watch/listen to Alex Jones and don’t know who he is.

I don’t watch/listen to Sean Hannity, and as a matter of fact don’t like him much based upon what little I’ve seen of him.

The few times I’ve seen Ann Coulter, I’ve been amused at her skill at tweaking her opponents. I know little of her beliefs and have not heard her speak at length and have not bought or read any of her books.

I do not watch or listen to Fox News or the Fox television network. This means that before he got the boot I didn’t watch or listen to Bill O’Reilly either.

I do read Fox’s news website, which is very different from what I’ve been given to understand is Fox News on tv. It’s more or less a strait forward news site that admittedly skews right, but isn’t dishonest or misleading so far as I know.

I don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh. I did in the early nineties but stopped after his tv show ‘mistakenly’ introduced Chelsea Clinton as the White House dog.

Believe it or not, most conservatives/Republicans are perfectly capable of watching the machinations of the left, and, by utilizing an upbringing that included discipline, proper schooling and common sense, recognize the many things that are wrong with the liberal approach and therefore find themselves critical of it.

Further, I’ve said all this numerous times on the board over the years. Why are you so stupid and ignorant on these issues when the truth has been right in front of your eyes? You _really_ need to back off on these laughable declarations of your opponents’ so-called stupidity, given that, you know, most of what you think and say is vastly more stupid than anything one hears from your opponents.

(But of course I mean all this in the nicest way. Ta.) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2943 "2018-01-21T08:56:24Z")

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> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> He’s a Christian Fundamentalist conspiracy-theorist, known for such gems as:
> 
> 1. The government is poisoning us from the skies with jet exhaust / chemtrails
> 2. There are chemicals in the water turning everyone gay. Even the frogs!
> 3. Hillary Clinton is running a child sex-slave ring from the basement of a pizza shop
> 4. Reptilian aliens posing as humans have infiltrated and taken over our government. They’re also demons. And they’re running a child sex-slave ring on a secret Martian mining colony.
> 5. The Sandy Hook massacre was a false flag event that didn’t really happen, in order to take away our guns!
> 6. Obama (and Bush, and Clinton, and Bush Sr…) is going to shove us all into FEMA concentration camps.  
> (Not Trump though. Apparently if you come on Alex Jones’ show and say a few kind words to him, he develops a mancrush and he’s suddenly okay with our Reptilian Alien Demon Overlords.)
> 
> Sadly, even given all that, he still has a following of well over 2 million people:
> 
> [Alex Jones - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones)

Marvellous. Sounds like quite a colourful chap! Thank you for the explanation. 🙂

> [@septimus](#):
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> 😕 You’d already made it clear you’re not American. All the more reason why your kids should learn Chinese. What was unclear in what I wrote? For better or worse, America’s foibles have long-term effects throughout the world.

Yeah, you were unclear. It’s pretty easy for me to avoid the “horror show” happening in the US because I don’t live there and get most of my news from British or Australian sources. All the “OMG our president said something I don’t like!” stuff earns people internet brownie points and upvotes but realistically it _doesn’t_ have far reaching effects for the average person in a Western country.

We all know the US and North Korea aren’t going to go flinging ICBMs at each other - even if the North Koreans fired one, their entire country would be radioactive glass before Mr Trump had finished tweeting about how he’d just turned North Korea into a glazier’s delight. The North Koreans don’t want that, the US doesn’t want that, no-one wants that. It’s not going to happen.

Mr Trump is not dictator for life. There are elections in what, two years? Even if he wins those, he can only be El Presidente for another four years afterwards and then it’s someone else’s turn to sit in The Comfy Chair With The Big Windows Behind It.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2944 "2018-01-21T09:29:16Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> … Yeah, you were unclear. It’s pretty easy for me to avoid the “horror show” happening in the US because I don’t live there …
> 
> Mr Trump is not dictator for life. There are elections in what, two years?..

It may seem jingoistic for me to say this, but America’s failures affect the entire world. The world’s economy, culture, and security rely to some extent on American power. American failure will cause worse than mere amusement in other countries. Australia may be better insulated than many countries, but the advice to learn Chinese may still be good advice.

And if you think, a 4-year Trump Presidency will do only four years’ worth of damage, I suggest you read the same essay I recommended in my last post. (PostS? :smack: )

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2945 "2018-01-21T09:33:00Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Those interested in knowing the truth? Or simply knowing what they’re talking about, perhaps? …
> 
> A few points of fact:
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> I don’t watch/listen I don’t watch/listen to Sean Hannity I’ve been amused I do not watch or listen …  
> I don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh. I did in the early nineties but stopped after his tv show ‘mistakenly’ introduced Chelsea Clinton as the White House dog.
> 
> Believe it or not, most conservatives/Republicans are perfectly capable of watching the machinations of the left …Why are you so stupid and ignorant on these issues when the truth has been right in front of your eyes? You _really_ need to back off on these laughable declarations of your opponents’ so-called stupidity, given that, you know, most of what you think and say is vastly more stupid than anything one hears from your opponents.
> 
> (But of course I mean all this in the nicest way. Ta.) 🙂

So. Still no admission that your “97% health benefits” was … mistaken?  
Still no admission that you’ve developed your fabulous knowledge of European socialism without ever owning a passport?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2946 "2018-01-21T09:44:00Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> So. Still no admission that your “97% health benefits” was … mistaken?

What 97% health benefits? I have no recollection of that.

> [@septimus](#):
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> Still no admission that you’ve developed your fabulous knowledge of European socialism without ever owning a passport?

Is it your proposition that no one lacking a passport may have accurate knowledge about any other country? What about history then? If one can’t know anything about Germany today, does that mean no one who hasn’t been there may know of or speak knowingly of Hitler, of Normandy, of Auschwitz? We have some posters from Canada, England and France on this board. Why do you never make this ludicrous claim when they (as liberals virtually always do) insult or criticize the U.S.?

But to answer your question, I’ve told you before that since you’ve reverted to being a dick I wasn’t going to answer any of your questions. That assertion still stands.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2947 "2018-01-21T10:34:38Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Broke-dick dogs? Five year olds throwing tantrums? Take your pick.

If you have an overfamiliarity with both, I hope to god you never get entrusted with either baby-sitting or dog-sitting.  
I am genuinely curious when you will reach your tipping point on Trump and switch to claiming that he was never a true Republican (he isn’t), or a true conservative (he isn’t, except as far as he represents and appeals to the very cruelest forms of social “conservatism” and the most selfish of fiscal “conservatism”), or perhaps that he was a liberal/Democrat plant all along.

But hey, you do you, Boo.  
Stand by your Man, as Tammy said.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2948 "2018-01-21T10:38:44Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Believe it or not, most conservatives/Republicans are perfectly capable of watching the machinations of the left, and, by utilizing an upbringing that included discipline, proper schooling and common sense, recognize the many things that are wrong with the liberal approach and therefore find themselves critical of it.

With the proper upbringing, including “discipline, proper schooling and common sense”, it is indeed easy to scrutinize and identify the problems with the \*other \*side.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2949 "2018-01-21T11:43:35Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You call [this](http://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years) stagnant?  
> Fucking lying sack of shit.

**Humpy** just straight up lies. Does he believe the lie? Is he incapable of grasping reality?

Maybe this is the _real_ zombie apocalypse. The Trump zombies are hungry for brains because they’ve lost their fucking minds.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2950 "2018-01-21T12:37:17Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> We have some posters from Canada, England and France on this board. Why do you never make this ludicrous claim when they (as liberals virtually always do) insult or criticize the U.S.?

There’s an extraordinarily good chance someone from Canada, England, or France has been to the US. The inverse is not necessarily true.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2951 "2018-01-21T13:04:04Z")

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I’m sorry you were forced to admit that you’ve never had a passport, **Starving** , but it seems you don’t need much knowledge or experience to be so very smart about so many things! Congratulations!!

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> What 97% health benefits? I have no recollection of that.

When I saw this I thought maybe you didn’t know that 100% minus 3% was 97%, but now I see you did that arithmetic correctly in your post. I’m sure it’s unfair to hold you responsible for bullshit from the stupider **Starving** who, once upon a time, thought Trump had an MBA. … But the following was posted by you \*less than a week ago. \* I’ve highlighted the portions you don’t seem to remember.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> … Most insurance companies realize a profit of around 3% on the money they take in _ **vs. pay out in benefits.** _ [Cite](https://www.verywell.com/health-insurance-companies-unreasonable-profits-1738941). So _ **for every one hundred dollars** _ paid into health care in America, only three of it gets kept by the insurance companies, and _ **$97 of it is paid out in service of patient healthcare.** _  
> [emphasis added by sgs7]

Does this jog your recollection?  
It’s good to hear you’ve revised your opinion of the Donald. I still treasure your earlier view, with its inimitable hyperbole:

> [@What the hell is Trump?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-is-trump/726581/119):
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> … Every day Donald Trump deals effectively with highly intelligent and highly educated architects, bankers, investors and businessmen, most of whom are at the top of their game. _**He is probably a genius and is and more accomplished by orders of magnitude than almost anybody. [SIZE=“5”]He’s not just one in a million but one in three hundred million, as there doesn’t seem to be anyone else the country remotely like him.[/SIZE]**_  
> [emphasis added by sgs7]

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2952 "2018-01-21T13:46:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> … Every day Donald Trump deals effectively with highly intelligent and highly educated architects, bankers, investors and businessmen, most of whom are at the top of their game. He is probably a genius and is and more accomplished by orders of magnitude than almost anybody. He’s not just one in a million but one in three hundred million, as there doesn’t seem to be anyone else the country remotely like him.

We can only hope there’s no one else in the country remotely like him, but sadly, it seems there are.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2953 "2018-01-21T14:39:21Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> …  
> I am genuinely curious when you [**Starving Artist**] will reach your tipping point on Trump …

As long as he gets his jollies here, never. But if everyone ignored him and did not respond to his posts for, oh, a week… he’d go away. But whatever. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2954 "2018-01-21T15:26:44Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> We can only hope there’s no one else in the country remotely like him, but sadly, it seems there are.

62M of them. All stupid enough to believe he really is a stable genius.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2955 "2018-01-21T16:04:49Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Well, let’s see…
> 
> Today is the first anniversary of his inauguration.
> 
> Dow is up 31%. Jobs are up. Unemployment is down. Taxes are being lowered. Action is being taken against illegal aliens (although not as fast as I would like). And liberals are still howling, whining and bitching about him being in office.
> 
> Hasn’t pissed me off one single bit.

Only because the King of Debt took out a 1.5 million million dollar loan, gave most of it to his friends and a small amount to his base of middle class supporters.

I got a form letter from my mortgage company yesterday telling me I could refinance and take out $225,000.00 in cash to do whatever I want with. That’s a lot of money. I could travel the world, staying in nice hotels and eating in fine restaurants. And I would look rich. And I would feel rich. But I’m going to decline the offer and drag my butt to work tomorrow. Because I’d actually BE poorer and a lot worse of in the long run if I borrowed money irresponsibly.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2956 "2018-01-21T17:29:26Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I don’t think sacks of shit are sentient enough to lie. While **Mr. Hump** may not be sentient enough to formulate a deliberate lie, I am almost certain that he is more sentient than a bag of shit. Can we meet each other halfway, and call **Mr. Hump** a sack of _semi_-sentient shit? … Anybody know if lawnmower-girl has let him grab her pussy yet?

As sack of shit is not just dead fecal matter, sometimes, it contains parasitic worms. I’ve not had much experience with such, but they probably do have more self awareness and honesty than the humpster.

> [@](#):
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> This is why the GOP may win its “game of chicken.” Democrats have a sense of responsibility and want to avoid chaos. For the GOPsters, “governance” is just about stealing money with both hands while behaving like 12-year old sadistic bullies toward thoughtful Americans, posterity, America’s honor, and the rest of the world.

That’s been their game for quite some time now. Threaten great harm upon the people of the country to get democrats to agree to lesser harms against the people of the country.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And I have no idea who Alex Jones is.

If you claimed to not follow Jones, or not to listen to what he has to say, or to consider his opinions, then those would be valid and believable rebuttals. You do tend to use the same types of arguments and seem to have similar beliefs, but that could just be coincidence.

To claim you don’t know who he is though, that’s just a lie.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> 62M of them. All stupid enough to believe he really is a stable genius.

To be fair, trump probably _is_ smarter than most of _them_.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2957 "2018-01-21T19:47:41Z")

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WH calling for the “nuclear option” again. The shutdown is a great excuse for him to renew his calls for something that would move him closer to his aspirations of becoming a dictator (IMO).

> **[Senate vote scheduled for Monday to potentially end shutdown | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/21/politics/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-filibuster/index.html)**
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> The Senate is scheduled to vote Monday on whether to re-open the government following Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s pledge to take up legislation to address an expiring immigration program in hopes of enticing enough Democrats to come on board.

> [@](#):
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> Trump tweeted his call for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to invoke the so-called nuclear option and thereby remove leverage for Senate Democrats.

That is what is “pissing me off” today, although scaring me is more like it.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2958 "2018-01-21T20:20:15Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> It’s kind of amazing how **Humpy** manages to post absolutely nothing but delusional figments of his own twisted and ignorant imagination.

Nope. I post reality. You people can’t deal with it.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2959 "2018-01-21T20:22:39Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Nope. I post reality. You people can’t deal with it.

You said the stock market was stagnant, I posted a chart showing it wasn’t. You lied.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2960 "2018-01-21T20:57:01Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You said the stock market was stagnant, I posted a chart showing it wasn’t. You lied.

He also claims there are 54 republicans in the senate.

Though, to be fair, that may not be a lie, it may just be early onset dementia.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2961 "2018-01-21T21:24:36Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Nope. I post reality. You people can’t deal with it.

The consensus is calling you a liar. And a delusional idiot.

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