# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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I _do_ hope that someone has informed him that “Nuclear Option” is just a figure of speech.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2963 "2018-01-21T21:55:29Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> WH calling for the “nuclear option” again. The shutdown is a great excuse for him to renew his calls for something that would move him closer to his aspirations of becoming a dictator (IMO).  
> [http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/21/politics/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-filibuster/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/21/politics/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-filibuster/index.html)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Trump tweeted his call for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to invoke the so-called nuclear option and thereby remove leverage for Senate Democrats.
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> That is what is “pissing me off” today, although scaring me is more like it.

Yeah. My guess is that John Kelly and Steven Miller have been telling Trump that if a shutdown occurs and goes on a certain amount of time, then he’ll “have no choice” but to declare martial law and suspend the Bill of Rights. A sad duty! And Trump would be salivating for the chance to take up that “duty.”  
Regarding Kelly: the conservative _National Review_ published, today, an article entitled “Being President Kelly”:

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> … Donald Trump runs a Twitter account. President John Kelly is running the administration. President Trump likes tough guys, and he thinks of himself as a tough guy. Remember all that palling around with Mike Tyson during the campaign and his fondness for Vladimir Putin? “Tough” is practically Trump’s favorite adjective, and adjectives are his favorite class of words. The problem is that Trump wants to be a tough guy — desperately — but isn’t one. He’s a rich kid from New York City who never in his life has been obliged to lift anything heavier than money. ––
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> … Trump is a familiar sort of man who mistakes being hard for being a sadist, and thinks that his own well-documented appetite for inflicting suffering and humiliation on others makes him tough. Trump likes to think of himself as an “alpha male,” as a natural-born leader, but he has instinctively adapted himself to the role of second banana in his relationship with Kelly. In all his passive-aggressive subtweeting at his chief of staff — a man who serves solely at his pleasure — Trump never even had the courage to name him. …

[http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455626/john-kelly-president-chief-of-staff-runs-administration](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455626/john-kelly-president-chief-of-staff-runs-administration)

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2964 "2018-01-21T22:06:04Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Serious question: Do you guys in the US not think it’s a worrying that your Federal government _literally shuts down_ from time to time?

Hell fucking yes. Last shutdown I lost my job. But as far as soul-crushing disasters go, it’s been par for the course for this administration. Porn star mistress? Yawn.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2965 "2018-01-22T01:35:38Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Serious question: Do you guys in the US not think it’s a worrying that your Federal government _literally shuts down_ from time to time?

Yeah, it worries me. My job could be affected but so far it looks like I’m going in on Monday. Not sure how that will affect things long term. My dad worked for the government and was sent home a few times over the years. I don’t think he was ever home more than a day or two, but it stressed him out which stressed me out.

It’s stupid and scary.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2966 "2018-01-22T01:55:58Z")

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I am very pissed off that he thinks I should not have been born in September.

> **[Trump Flubs Anti-Abortion Line In Speech](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-flubs-anti-abortion-speech_n_5a627b15e4b002283002c6c0)**
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> President says it's "wrong" that laws allow babies to be born in the ninth month.

It is, after all, the ninth month.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2967 "2018-01-22T03:08:41Z")

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I was born in September, too. The bastard!

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2968 "2018-01-22T03:19:50Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> I am genuinely curious when you will reach your tipping point on Trump and switch to claiming that he was never a true Republican . . .

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> As long as he gets his jollies here, never. But if everyone ignored him and did not respond to his posts for, oh, a week… he’d go away. But whatever. :rolleyes:

That was directed to **Clothahump** , not **Starting Artist**.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2969 "2018-01-22T03:47:41Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You said the stock market was stagnant, I posted a chart showing it wasn’t. You lied.

Plus: the stock market \<\> the economy.  
Plus: at least one aspect of the economy – wages – really is stagnant.

But other than that … the economy has been barreling down the track for 8 years, and Trump has managed to not derail it. Huzzah.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2970 "2018-01-22T03:52:29Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> If you have an overfamiliarity with both, I hope to god you never get entrusted with either baby-sitting or dog-sitting.

I’ve heard both of them howl. Sounds just like liberals.

> [@](#):
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> I am genuinely curious when you will reach your tipping point on Trump and switch to claiming that he was never a true Republican (he isn’t), or a true conservative (he isn’t, except as far as he represents and appeals to the very cruelest forms of social “conservatism” and the most selfish of fiscal “conservatism”), or perhaps that he was a liberal/Democrat plant all along.

There are three major reasons I support Trump.

1. He ain’t Hillary.
2. He is pro-business which we desperately needed after Obama’s anti-business stance.
3. He is very plain spoken. No political correctness from him, and that is a breath of fresh air blowing through the swamps of DC.

The fact that he annoys the hell out of liberals on a daily basis is just a bonus.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2971 "2018-01-22T04:23:27Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I’ve heard both of them howl. Sounds just like liberals.
> 
> There are three major reasons I support Trump.
> 
> 1. He ain’t Hillary.

Sure he is not, he just continues to show what a willful ignorant he is when Hillary was not.

> **[Bill Maher: She Knew](https://thinc.blog/2017/05/06/bill-maher-she-knew/)**
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> Visit the post for more.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> 1. He is pro-business which we desperately needed after Obama’s anti-business stance.

He is actually deeply involved into shady business. And speaking of an issue like climate change, Trump gave you the big lie that coal declined thanks to Obama. In reality, it was businesses decisions that businessmen made when they looked that natural gas and even some solar or wind energy technologies were cheaper.

> **[Natural Gas Ambush Killed Off Coal Mining Industry, Not Obama's 'War on Coal'](https://reason.com/2016/10/11/natural-gas-ambush-killed-off-coal-minin/)**
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> Coal got mugged by natural gas, not regulators.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> 1. He is very plain spoken. No political correctness from him, and that is a breath of fresh air blowing through the swamps of DC.

Even on that he is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.

> **[Trump campaigned as a populist. He’s not delivering as president - The Boston...](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/12/02/trump/UKAzmRHu29q2RdAXar9skJ/story.html)**
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> The tax plan President Trump is backing in Congress would hurt the many in the middle class in the long term.

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> WASHINGTON — President Trump ran a campaign on lifting up the little guy. He was, in the words of his oldest son, “a blue-collar billionaire,” and it was his plain-spoken promise to be their warrior in Washington that helped win over voters in hollowed-out Midwestern towns.
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> But almost a year into his presidency, evidence shows he has governed not as the populist champion he proclaimed himself to be, but instead as a president siding more often with large corporations, special interests, and the wealthiest of Americans.
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> In deeds, if not in words, he’s proved a lot more “billionaire” and a lot less “blue-collar.”
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> The tax plan Trump is backing in Congress would hurt many in the middle class in the long term, while bestowing greater, permanent benefits on corporations and wealthy people, according to nonpartisan estimates. He is seeking to hamstring the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, which is charged with preventing banks, credit card companies, and unscrupulous lenders from fleecing average consumers.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> The fact that he annoys the hell out of liberals on a daily basis is just a bonus.

The fact is that Trump allows us to have evidence to just tell guys like you that you are really dumb.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2972 "2018-01-22T04:28:25Z")

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Maybe in this business friendly atmosphere, **Clothy** will be able to afford to fix a broken window next time.  
And get a camera with a microphone.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2973 "2018-01-22T04:29:58Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Sure he is not, he just continues to show what a willful ignorant he is when Hillary was not.
> 
> [Bill Maher: She Knew – This is Not Cool](https://climatecrocks.com/2017/05/06/bill-maher-she-knew/)  
> He is actually deeply involved into shady business. And speaking of an issue like climate change, Trump gave you the big lie that coal declined thanks to Obama. In reality, it was businesses decisions that businessmen made when they looked that natural gas and even some solar or wind energy technologies were cheaper.
> 
> [Natural Gas Ambush Killed Off Coal Mining Industry, Not Obama's 'War on Coal'](http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/11/natural-gas-ambush-killed-off-coal-minin)  
> Even on that he is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
> 
> [https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/12/02/trump/UKAzmRHu29q2RdAXar9skJ/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/12/02/trump/UKAzmRHu29q2RdAXar9skJ/story.html)
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> The fact is that Trump allows us to have evidence to just tell guys like you that you are really dumb.

And not just dumb, but gullible as fuck. Trump will piss down their backs, they’ll turn their faces to the droplets, open their mouths and swallow it down, all the while claiming it tastes as sweet as honey mead.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2974 "2018-01-22T05:31:45Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> The fact that he annoys the hell out of liberals on a daily basis is just a bonus.

All other things aside, why would you be happy that our government annoys 120 million people of our country on a daily basis?

I just don’t understand that way of thinking.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2975 "2018-01-22T06:15:23Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> There are three major reasons I support Trump.
> 
> 1. He ain’t Hillary.
> 2. He is pro-business which we desperately needed after Obama’s anti-business stance.
> 3. He is very plain spoken. No political correctness from him, and that is a breath of fresh air blowing through the swamps of DC.

1. Your first reason was never a good reason to begin with. A year after the election it is not even a reason.

2. Trump is demonstrably pro-Trump-business, and I seem to recall that his predecessor saved the auto and banking industries when they were facing collapse.

3. I think Trump says what he thinks his supporters want to hear. As do many politicians on both sides. The difference is that Trump’s supporters have to do the heavy lifting to hear what they want him to say. Even his press secretary can’t keep up with all his double-speak, word salad, and vitriol.

> [@](#):
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> The fact that he annoys the hell out of liberals on a daily basis is just a bonus.

Yes, yes. We know how you get your jollies. No need to repeat it.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2976 "2018-01-22T12:48:55Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> I am very pissed off that he thinks I should not have been born in September.
> 
> [Trump Flubs Key Line In Anti-Abortion Speech | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-flubs-anti-abortion-speech_us_5a627b15e4b002283002c6c0)
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> It is, after all, the ninth month.

Unfortunately, his mother made an abortion in the ninth month.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2977 "2018-01-22T13:22:57Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> 1. He is very plain spoken. No political correctness from him, and that is a breath of fresh air blowing through the swamps of DC.
> 
> The fact that he annoys the hell out of liberals on a daily basis is just a bonus.

It’s not his un-PC language that annoys. It’s his outright lies, his hypocrisy (criticizes Obama for playing golf, then plays more golf in 1 year than Obama did in 8), his claiming credit where none is due, his absence of qualifications for any type of government, his thin-skinned man baby outbursts, his blame shifting, his depriving America of overseas business, worsening the trade gap while blaming the exporters, his cronyism…

What the fuck ever, you’re not reading this, and you just wear MAGA blinders while chasing imaginary environmentalist joggers anyway, so just consider this another answer to the OP.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2978 "2018-01-22T13:30:40Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> 1. He is very plain spoken.

So we have Clothy on record as stating that “shithole” is appropriate Presidential language.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2979 "2018-01-22T13:34:09Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> That was directed to **Clothahump** , not **Starting Artist**.

It applies equally.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2980 "2018-01-22T14:00:09Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And again with respect, but the widely held view that sickening insurance companies are getting rich off the backs of their victims is utterly incorrect. Most insurance companies realize a profit of around 3% on the money they take in vs. pay out in benefits. [Cite](https://www.verywell.com/health-insurance-companies-unreasonable-profits-1738941). So for every one hundred dollars paid into health care in America, only three of it gets kept by the insurance companies, and $97 of it is paid out in service of patient healthcare. So the idea that everyone would be so much better off if only these greedy health insurance companies weren’t profiting on everyone’s illness is a fallacy and nothing much would be gained at all by taking that profit away.

I think you have things a bit confused. Health insurance companies must spend 80% of their premiums on health care. If they’re making a 3% profit, that means that about 80% of premiums go to health care, 17% go to wages and expenses of the insurance company, and 3% goes into profit for shareholders. No insurer could afford to spend 97% of premiums on health care.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/2981 "2018-01-22T15:55:02Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It applies equally.

Not quite. Exact measurements show **The Hump** registering 832 millidouche where **Starkers** comes in at 857.

(No need to be embarrassed, ya’ll a Texan, and half of us don’t know shit, and the other half only knows that.)

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