# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3705 "2018-05-13T03:13:09Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> It’s worth noting that two out of the three hostages were also arrested/detained during Trump’s administration. That negates a large part of the credibility that he’ll try to claim. Except for his base.

He also apparently likes people who get captured now, unlike when he mentioned John McCain in the election.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3706 "2018-05-13T03:34:59Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> It’s worth noting that two out of the three hostages were also arrested/detained during Trump’s administration. That negates a large part of the credibility that he’ll try to claim. Except for his base.

> [@enipla](#):
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> Umm… What are you referring to? WWWW and how? Or at least a what would be helpful.

I think Superdude may have been thinking of the difference between net and gross. Trump may brag that he got three people released from North Korea, but two of them were captured during his time in office, so at best he’s +1.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3707 "2018-05-13T10:55:21Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> It’s worth noting that two out of the three hostages were also arrested/detained during Trump’s administration. That negates a large part of the credibility that he’ll try to claim. Except for his base.

Mighty good point. Mighty good, indeed.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3708 "2018-05-13T22:26:34Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I think Superdude may have been thinking of the difference between net and gross. Trump may brag that he got three people released from North Korea, but two of them were captured during his time in office, so at best he’s +1.

It’s not just that he claimed he got three released–it’s that he outright lied and said that **Obama had tried and failed to get them released**. Tried and failed to win the release of _men who had not yet been captured_.

> [@](#):
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> Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump  
> As everybody is aware, **the past Administration has long been asking for three hostages to be released** from a North Korean Labor camp, but to no avail. Stay tuned!  
> 8:53 PM - May 2, 2018

(emphasis mine)

It was an outright lie. Which is perfectly fine with the base, because, hey, it sticks it to that uppity Negro!

> **[Was the Obama Administration Unable to Arrange the Release of Three Hostages...](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-administration-unable-arrange-release/)**
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> Two of the three men being held by North Korea in 2018 were not detained until Donald Trump's presidency.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3709 "2018-05-13T22:46:20Z")

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Trump praises his own mother on Mothers Day, ignores Melania.

> **[Trump Praises Late Mom On Mother's Day But Skips Mention Of Melania](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-mothers-day-video_n_5af84d23e4b0e57cd9fa6dc9)**
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> “So much of what I’ve done and so much of what I’ve become is because of my mother. I miss her a lot,” he said.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3710 "2018-05-13T23:32:13Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump praises his own mother on Mothers Day, ignores Melania.
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> [Trump Praises Late Mom On Mother's Day But Skips Mention Of Melania | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-mothers-day-video_us_5af84d23e4b0e57cd9fa6dc9)

He’s still shopping for her birthday present.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3711 "2018-05-14T03:03:29Z")

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Should be any day now, and it’s gonna be terrific. The _best_.

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3712 "2018-05-14T03:09:59Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It’s not just that he claimed he got three released–it’s that he outright lied and said that **Obama had tried and failed to get them released**. Tried and failed to win the release of _men who had not yet been captured_.

Well, it ought to be real easy to get people released if they haven’t even been captured yet…but Obama couldn’t do that…LOSER!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3713 "2018-05-14T10:20:00Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I hate to say this, but what if Trump does bring peace to the Koreas? NK is scared the US will invade, and they cower at Trump. Same thing happened when Reagan took office: Iran returned the hostages his first day. Releasing three prisoners may be just a symbolic gesture that can easily be forgotten, but it might be that fear and not diplomacy is the only way to deal with NK.
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> Sometimes we need a fucker in the White House to deal with these tinpot dictators. Obama sure as hell didn’t inspire fear in them. Trump is their worst nightmare, an aggressive American psycho who won’t hesitate to push the big candy-like red history eraser button.

That theory sounds strangely familiar…oh yeah:

> [@Team America](#):
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> We’re dicks! We’re reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong-il is an asshole. Pussies don’t like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes - assholes who just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way, but the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is that sometimes they fuck too much, or fuck when it isn’t appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show 'em that. But sometimes pussies get so full of shit that they become assholes themselves, because pussies are only an inch-and-a-half away from assholes. I don’t know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don’t let us fuck this asshole, we are going to have our dicks and our pussies all covered in shit.

The film also has a prescient tribute to Alec Baldwin’s portrayal of Trump:

> [@Kim Jong-Il in TAWP](#):
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> When you see Arec Barrwin, you see the true ugriness of human nature.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3714 "2018-05-14T12:01:27Z")

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Only [18 dead so far over the US Embassy move to Jerusalem](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44104599), and they’re just Palestinians anyway, amiright? MARA (Make America Reviled Again).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3715 "2018-05-14T13:22:47Z")

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A small price to pay for Il Douche keeping an ill-considered campaign promise.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3716 "2018-05-14T14:33:11Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A small price to pay for Il Douche keeping an ill-considered campaign promise.

Not to mention fulfilling a Biblical prophecy. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3717 "2018-05-14T14:40:05Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Only [18 dead so far over the US Embassy move to Jerusalem](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44104599), and they’re just Palestinians anyway, amiright? MARA (Make America Reviled Again).

More than forty dead, now.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3718 "2018-05-14T14:51:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A small price to pay for Il Douche keeping an ill-considered campaign promise.

Please. The United States has never been an honest broker in this whole mess and would support Israel even if they dropped H-Bombs on Ramallah and Gaza. All Trump has done is remove the veneer of politness.

This one’s on you.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3719 "2018-05-14T16:45:41Z")

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> [@Steken](#):
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> More than forty dead, now.

And Kushner said:

“When President Trump makes a promise he keeps it… We have shown the world that the US can be trusted. We stand with our friends and allies.”

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3720 "2018-05-14T16:51:33Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> And Kushner said:
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> “When President Trump makes a promise he keeps it… We have shown the world that the US can be trusted. We stand with our friends and allies.”

WTF. He also promised the build a wall paid for by Mexico and provide cheap and wonderful health care coverage to all Americans.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3721 "2018-05-14T17:11:30Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> And Kushner said:
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> “When President Trump makes a promise he keeps it… We have shown the world that the US can be trusted. We stand with our friends and allies.”

“Except when we make deals with Iran. Those aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on. Or climate accords. Yeah, those are worthless, too.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3722 "2018-05-14T17:36:59Z")

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Republicans are all secret and not-so-secret anti-Semites who only support Israel as a means to the End Times.  
Robert Jeffress, the pastor they imported to Israel to make his prayer at the embassy opening is a racist, homophobic, anti-Catholic, anti-Mormon, anti-Jewish bigot. The perfect person to represent the United States in front of the whole world.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3723 "2018-05-14T18:07:04Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Only [18 dead so far over the US Embassy move to Jerusalem](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44104599), and they’re just Palestinians anyway, amiright? MARA (Make America Reviled Again).

To be fair, most of Trump’s base would have also been okay with Jews being killed.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3724 "2018-05-14T18:33:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Republicans are all secret and not-so-secret anti-Semites who only support Israel as a means to the End Times.  
> Robert Jeffress, the pastor they imported to Israel to make his prayer at the embassy opening is a racist, homophobic, anti-Catholic, anti-Mormon, anti-Jewish bigot. The perfect person to represent the United States in front of the whole world.

I hate Trump as much as any sensible person… but I’m far from convinced he’s an anti-Semite. Let’s not forget that Ivanka, probably the #2 person in the entire world that he cares about (obviously pretty far back from #1, which is Trump himself) is Jewish. So is Michael Cohen. So was Roy Cohn, who was influential in Trump’s early business rise. So are, I’m sure, many of his other “friends”/business associates.

There are definitely strong strands of anti-Semitism on the fringes of the Republican party, and Trump’s feeble response to the Charlottesville protest was an embarrassment. But I think that this may be the rare case where Trump actually isn’t guilty.

(In an odd sense, the fact that he’s such a self-centered arrogant narcissist may actually work in his favor. His world view is:

Donald Trump \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> Ivanka Trump \>\> other Trump children/wives \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> those who are “loyal” to Trump \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> everyone else.

At that point, the everyone else is so ridiculously far beneath him that what does it matter if some of them are Jews or not?)

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