# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3905 "2018-06-12T22:36:51Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Hmmmm … I think I may have a new moniker for CFSG:

My nickname for Trump is “The Unindicted Coconspirator “.

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**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3906 "2018-06-13T13:29:59Z")

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Realistically, what further good can come form the Singapore “summit?” I would estimate that there is no chance at all that Kim denuclearizes, or even makes anything but cosmetic moves in that direction. I suppose we can hope that continued dialog between North and South Korea accomplishes something.

Trump has set the stage for virtually anything we do in the Korean Peninsula to be labeled a provocation or a backing out of the “deal” by Kim Jon Un, particularly anything involving our military support and cooperation with South Korea. If Congress does _anything_ to blunt the impact of Trumps reckless statement, KJU can just point to it as evidence of America’s untrustworthiness, and as an added bonus, Trump gets to complain about Congress messing up the great deal that he made with Kim.

This is why prior Presidents haven’t met with Kim. and why the real work of diplomacy happens among staffers, ahead of time, and over long periods of negotiations.

Where’s that \<putz\> smiley when I need it?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3907 "2018-06-13T15:08:07Z")

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> [@carlb](#):
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> …Where’s that \<putz\> smiley when I need it?

In all of our minds.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3908 "2018-06-14T00:30:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Trump claims, preposterously, that parents of Korean War veterans came up to him during the 2016 campaign and said, “when you can, we’d love our son to be brought back home – you know, the remains.”
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> The Korean War ended in 1953.

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1007023846455734272?s=21>

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3909 "2018-06-14T00:39:18Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1007023846455734272?s=21](https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1007023846455734272?s=21)

I didn’t know there were that many 99+ year old Korean War parents left.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3910 "2018-06-14T01:03:12Z")

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“He’s not Hillary! He’s not Hillary! He’s not Hillary! Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm”.

I can’t believe these idiots still stick to that mantra. We no longer have any allies. Strike that. In reality, because of Trump, the United States of America is no longer anyone’s ally and, sadly, is no longer united.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3911 "2018-06-14T01:44:13Z")

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Trumps handwaves away questions from Fox News (Fox NEWS !) about Kim’s human rights records and executing political opponents by saying [he’s just a smart, tough guy and other people do bad things too](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/trump-whataboutism-on-kims-human-rights-record-hes-a-tough-guy.html?via=article_recirc_recent). But Canadian cheese quotas ? That shit just won’t stand !

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3912 "2018-06-14T02:37:24Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Trumps handwaves away questions from Fox News (Fox NEWS !) about Kim’s human rights records and executing political opponents by saying [he’s just a smart, tough guy and other people do bad things too](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/trump-whataboutism-on-kims-human-rights-record-hes-a-tough-guy.html?via=article_recirc_recent). But Canadian cheese quotas ? That shit just won’t stand !

Yeah, but it’s a tough country! And he was really young! I mean, who wouldn’t tie people to anti-aircraft guns, or feed them to dogs, in that same situation?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3913 "2018-06-14T03:22:34Z")

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“Fake news” is now “the biggest enemy” of the United States in the world, says the most prominent purveyor of it. Russia? China? North Korea? ISIS? Global climate change? Pshaw: [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392026-trump-calls-fake-news-the-countrys-biggest-enemy](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392026-trump-calls-fake-news-the-countrys-biggest-enemy)

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3914 "2018-06-14T03:54:52Z")

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It’s interesting to note how Trump and his cronies have managed to completely twist the meaning of the expression, from something that was and is genuinely problematic (that is to say, fictional stories presented as factual & disseminated in order to further an agenda, or to give the Snopes guys a reason to live) into “any bit of news that I don’t personally believe in”, “any news I don’t agree with”, “any coverageof somebody I like which is not a quasi-hagiographical”. This because, of course, the side pushing hoaxes was accused of pushing hoaxes and immediately went into BothSidesDoIt overdrive.  
I suppose it’s only logical than in a post-reality world ; we would move on to post-meaning.

I also really like how Trump writes that “500 days ago CNN would have begged for this meeting, it looked like war would break out” - Yeah, because \*\*you \*\*were suddenly threatening to start lobbing nukes on Twitter, you utter git !

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3915 "2018-06-14T03:58:14Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Yeah, but it’s a tough country! And he was really young! I mean, who wouldn’t tie people to anti-aircraft guns, or feed them to dogs, in that same situation?

I have to admit, if I absolutely _had_ to execute a guy ; and I happened to have a very large calibre gun lying around… I mean, the sheer morbid curiosity of it, you know ? Plus you put it on pay-per-view and that’s a tax rebate right there !

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3916 "2018-06-14T04:11:25Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “He’s not Hillary! He’s not Hillary! He’s not Hillary! Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm”.
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> I can’t believe these idiots still stick to that mantra. We no longer have any allies. Strike that. In reality, because of Trump, the United States of America is no longer anyone’s ally and, sadly, is no longer united.

Now, now, let’s not exaggerate. North Korea is becoming a very close ally.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3917 "2018-06-14T04:17:09Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Il Douche tells us we can trust Kim, he knows him very well. Spent several hours with the man, took his measure.

It was just four days ago that Trump was complaining about how Justin Trudeau changed their supposed deal after Trump left. If Trump thinks he can’t trust Trudeau, why does he feel he can trust Kim? If Trump can’t read Trudeau, why should we believe he can read Kim?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3918 "2018-06-14T05:58:37Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It was just four days ago that Trump was complaining about how Justin Trudeau changed their supposed deal after Trump left. If Trump thinks he can’t trust Trudeau, why does he feel he can trust Kim? If Trump can’t read Trudeau, why should we believe he can read Kim?

You’re doing that thing… that thing that doesn’t work: trying to apply reason/logic to President PantsOnHead’s attempts at thinking.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3919 "2018-06-14T09:16:01Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Now, now, let’s not exaggerate. North Korea is becoming a very close ally.

You know the old saying, “It’s funny because it’s true”? Well, what you say is true, but it’s not funny.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3920 "2018-06-14T12:22:45Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Now, now, let’s not exaggerate. North Korea is becoming a very close ally.

Well, let’s find out. If they’re _really_ a close ally, they’ll bomb Iran for us.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3921 "2018-06-14T13:17:04Z")

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It’s really the least they could do, after Trump showed them that fancy video and all.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3922 "2018-06-14T15:14:12Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> If Trump can’t read Trudeau, why should we believe he can read Kim?

Surely you realize that Trump knew, in the first minute, that he could trust Kim. Because that’s what he does.

> **[Trump says he’ll size up Kim Jong Un ‘within the first minute’ of Singapore...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-hell-size-up-kim-jong-un-within-the-first-minute-of-singapore-summit/2018/06/09/68a44aba-6bde-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?utm_term=.007ad6443ad4)**
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> Voicing optimism ahead of the summit, the president suggested the North Korean dictator will “surprise on the upside.”

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3923 "2018-06-14T15:18:46Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I have to admit, if I absolutely _had_ to execute a guy ; and I happened to have a very large calibre gun lying around… I mean, the sheer morbid curiosity of it, you know ? Plus you put it on pay-per-view and that’s a tax rebate right there !

Guillotines, my friend, guillotines. They let you know that the job was done right.

“When I hold your head up to the crowd afterwards, try to wink with your left eye, okay?”

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/3924 "2018-06-14T20:32:27Z")

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Trump salutes a North Korean general.

> **[New video shows President Trump saluting North Korean general](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/new-video-shows-president-trump-saluting-north-korean-general-n883076)**
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> U.S. presidents generally do not return salutes from foreign military officers.

Sad! What an “amateur”!\*

\*Quoting noted reality television star, professional wrestling promoter, sometime businessman, and occasional president, Donald J. Trump.

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