# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4105 "2018-07-15T17:08:13Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> These days we’re allowed to pick and choose what we believe from the news media, right? :rolleyes:

No. These days we’re allowed to pick and choose what is _true_, not just from the news media, but from whoever or wherever we want; sources don’t matter any more than the facts, after all.

ETA: And not just what we _believe_ is true, but what is actually true. We’ve gone far, far beyond mere truthiness here.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4106 "2018-07-15T17:20:47Z")

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> [@katgirl](#):
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> I think Melania probably secretly googles voodoo online and has a little Trump doll stuck full of pins in the back of her closet. I can totally see her getting it on with one of the SS guys, God only knows what horrors she has been subjecting herself to that are likely outlined in the prenup.

Several gossip sites have linked her to a security guy in New York, specifically Hank Siemers, head of global retail security for Tiffany’s.

> **[Weird Facts About Hank Siemers, Melania Trump's Rumored Boyfriend](https://www.yourtango.com/2017304856/who-hank-siemens-facts-details-rumors-photos-melania-trump-boyfriend-affair)**
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> Whoa.

I always suspected that the reason Keith Schiller left the Trump Administration and went back to NY was that Trump wanted him in NY to keep an eye on Melania when she was away from DC.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4107 "2018-07-15T17:26:41Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> In the second picture with that article, it looks like Melania is getting very cozy with (I assume) a Secret Service agent. Or is that just a perspective/foreshortening effect of the photograph that makes them look they’re occupying the same space?

I had to go and look again on reading that description.

Wow, no. From the depth of field, I’d say he’s a good way away from her, several feet at least. This looks like a narrow angle (telephoto shot) with a depth of field big enough to capture the Donald and Melania in focus, but not the security guys a few yards away.

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**Author:** ![katgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@katgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katgirl)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4108 "2018-07-15T17:34:07Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Welcome to the Straight Dope Message Board, **katgirl**!

Thank you!

I’m already having fun.😛

and I just remembered my first thought this morning upon waking . . .

that if Trump ends up wearing orange at least it will match his face

someone on here called him an Oompa Loompa and now I keep picturing him with the George Washington style hairdo the Oompa Loompas had

there’s a golden egg joke in there somewhere

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4109 "2018-07-15T17:35:04Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Melania grew up in a world where powerful men casually killed people who opposed them (Tito, Milosevick) and, somehow, “escaped” to a saner world where powerful men merely bought off (or financially crushed) those who opposed them.
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> …

But did she actually “grow up in that world” as a girl? Were her parents members of those circles?

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No. These days we’re allowed to pick and choose what is _true_, not just from the news media, but from whoever or wherever we want; sources don’t matter any more than the facts, after all.
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> ETA: And not just what we _believe_ is true, but what is actually true. We’ve gone far, far beyond mere truthiness here.

I know. I know. I was just being silly. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4110 "2018-07-15T17:36:48Z")

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Her father was a Communist Party member under Tito. Of course she grew up in that world.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4111 "2018-07-15T17:47:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’s already running for re-election, there’s a hole to pour your money into set up. He took the Oath, and the Bible he swore upon hadn’t even stopped smoldering before he started campaigning!

To be fair, it will not stop smoldering until he is out of office.

It’s sorta like the eternal flame on Kennedy’s grave that way.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4112 "2018-07-15T18:11:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Now I wish I hadn’t. Am I surprised? No. Am I disgusted? Yet again, yes.

Hi Mr. **Heir**. Maybe I’m missing something but I didn’t find Donnie’s comments disgusting. What am I not understanding? Yeah, once again he pulled out the bullshit about something being more complicated than expected, but that just seems more moronic than disgusting.

His comments onElizabeth seemed liked what a typical elderly guy might say to compliment an elderly woman:  
Speaking of the 92-year-old queen, Trump was quoted as saying: “She is an incredible woman, she is so sharp, she is so beautiful, when I say beautiful - inside and out. That is a beautiful woman.”

Asked if Trump felt the queen had liked him, he said: “Well I don’t want to speak for her, but I can tell you I liked her. So usually that helps. But I liked her a lot.”

“Just very elegant. And very beautiful. It was really something special,” Trump said of the meeting. “She is so sharp, so wise, so beautiful. Up close, you see she’s so beautiful. She’s a very special person.”

What’s the big problem there?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4113 "2018-07-15T20:17:59Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Hi Mr. **Heir**. Maybe I’m missing something but I didn’t find Donnie’s comments disgusting. What am I not understanding? Yeah, once again he pulled out the bullshit about something being more complicated than expected, but that just seems more moronic than disgusting.
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> His comments onElizabeth seemed liked what a typical elderly guy might say to compliment an elderly woman:  
> Speaking of the 92-year-old queen, Trump was quoted as saying: “She is an incredible woman, she is so sharp, she is so beautiful, when I say beautiful - inside and out. That is a beautiful woman.”
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> Asked if Trump felt the queen had liked him, he said: “Well I don’t want to speak for her, but I can tell you I liked her. So usually that helps. But I liked her a lot.”
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> “Just very elegant. And very beautiful. It was really something special,” Trump said of the meeting. “She is so sharp, so wise, so beautiful. Up close, you see she’s so beautiful. She’s a very special person.”
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> What’s the big problem there?

The problem is that he’s talking like an old man discussing another old woman…exactly as you said. But since these are two heads of state, it Makes it excessively personal and wildly inappropriate.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4114 "2018-07-15T22:42:19Z")

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Not sure where else to post this - kinda cool more journals of record are coming out and calling it like it is.  
[Yahoo](https://ca.yahoo.com/news/trump-brought-lies-over-europe-070042446.html) (by no means the most sterling source, I spose) is I think the fourth source I’ve come across, now, pegging преЦАРдент Trump with “lies” in the headline.

Gloves are off, finally. (well, over the past month, or so?) Let’s call this shit like it is.  
Yeah, it is not a journalistic norm to use “lies”, I’ll grant, but these are exceptional times.

Got brass knuckles?

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**Author:** ![katgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@katgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/katgirl)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4115 "2018-07-16T00:04:47Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The problem is that he’s talking like an old man discussing another old woman…exactly as you said. But since these are two heads of state, it Makes it excessively personal and wildly inappropriate.

Trump talks like a dork and he’s President so it’s cringeworthy.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4116 "2018-07-16T00:10:35Z")

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> [@katgirl](#):
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> Thank you!
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> I’m already having fun.😛  
> … someone on here called him an Oompa Loompa and now I keep picturing him with the George Washington style hairdo the Oompa Loompas had

That was me, I stole it shamelessly from the Brits 😃

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4117 "2018-07-16T00:13:58Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Trump has pulled John Bolton from an interview with CNN because he claims Jim Acosta disrespected him. When? Trump’s the one who attacked Acosta. And then he said that CNN didn’t report on his attack on Acosta, which they did, of course.

None of them get disrespected or shut down ENOUGH.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4118 "2018-07-16T03:59:34Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> …excessively personal and wildly inappropriate.

This. And painfully inarticulate, to boot.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4119 "2018-07-16T12:26:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> This. And painfully inarticulate, to boot.

Thanks for the response. In this episode I wasn’t seeing anything repulsive (and still don’t); I even checked for harrumphing in a couple of British papers (Times & Guardian) but didn’t find anything in 12 minutes of review.

I’ve got memories of sampling Rush Limbaugh back in his heyday, and being disgusted that his show mostly consisted of putting the worst possible spins on every innocuous thing Bill Clinton did or said. I had a momentary flashback, but no big deal — Trump has no regard for honesty and very little for democratic government, and if he gets a few sentences of questionable criticism that’s the smallest of problems.

As for how he’s pissed me off today, that’s already been covered extensively, but: He hasn’t cancelled his meeting with Putin.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4120 "2018-07-16T13:55:37Z")

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It’s so annoying when your aides butt in to say, “Mr. President, I’m sorry, but you can’t offer to give Alaska back,” and “Sir, perhaps you might not want to reveal our nuclear codes,” and stuff like that. Better just to keep them out of the room entirely: [Live: Fallout after Trump-Putin meeting](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-putin-helsinki/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4121 "2018-07-16T18:03:36Z")

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Sanding beside Putin, Trump said that the Mueller probe has damaged relations between the US and Russia. Not the reasons why there is a probe, that didn’t damage relations, but investigating has done so.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4122 "2018-07-16T18:27:35Z")

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How has he pissed me off? By [betraying his country](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/world/europe/trump-putin-election-intelligence.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage), that’s how. This fucker needs to go, either by impeachment or being found incapable of governing the country. Yeah, we’d be stuck with Pence, but that’s a fight for another day. In the meantime, this traitorous, cowardly excuse for a president, American, and human being needs to be booted.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4123 "2018-07-16T18:30:06Z")

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With statements like his, we’d hardly wait for an impeachment from recent presidents. I mean, this isn’t worse than some blow job?

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4124 "2018-07-16T18:31:25Z")

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Trump says the US is stupid and foolish and Russia’s Foreign Ministry agrees.

> <https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1018803468805566464?s=20>
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> Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Always good to have your comrades on your side.

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