# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4565 "2018-10-07T17:03:12Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> (We already saw a hint of this in the W age: the Security Moms. Women voters who whatever they may have thought about things like Roe or the deficit or privacy, they cared first and foremost about the threat of nasty “others” coming after their children, and wanted THAT addressed first, by whatever means necessary.)
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> Those white Republican women may not like this appointment and the surrounding nastiness… but if they perceive they can’t oppose \*this \*without also opposing everything \*else \*in the platform, then they may not back down.

So who is it that has them all stirred up about these “others” who are after their children? And at the end of the day when they’ve tucked little Jimmy in bed, safe from people too brown or too gay or the wrong religion, and look up to find the rest of the house has burned down around them, will they feel the price might have been too high? Especially when the threat was no where as big as they’d been told.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4566 "2018-10-07T17:46:23Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> One thing that I see often around me is the people who have total disbelief that a (woman/racial minority/LGBT person/young person) can possibly be right-wing/republican. Well, they can. Because, guess what, they have other things they care about. Yes, I know, you can’t conceive how someone could care more about their taxes or their guns than about their sexual freedom… _but they do_.

Indeed. I have known gay Republicans. And don’t forget the Log Cabin Republicans.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4567 "2018-10-07T20:48:36Z")

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> [@Trump](#):
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> “We’re very honored that he was able to withstand this horrible, horrible attack by the Democrats.”

Does Trump have any idea what the word “honored” means? It’s not a synonym for “happy”.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4568 "2018-10-07T20:51:00Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Indeed. I have known gay Republicans. And don’t forget the Log Cabin Republicans.

Kapos.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4569 "2018-10-07T21:30:57Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [Fucking unbelievable](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-kavanaugh-accuser-named-wrong-person-211237582.html).  
> And I don’t even know what the fuck this is supposed to mean:
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> > “Women were outraged at what happened to Brett Kavanaugh, outraged,” Trump said. “It was a total misnomer because the women I feel were in many ways stronger than men in his favor.”

He had just been asked by a reporter about the fact that many women are unhappy that Kananaugh was confirmed. He used the word “misnomer,” the meaning of which he does not understand, to mean something like ‘false report’ or perhaps ‘false belief’ (that women are unhappy about Kavanaugh).

In other words, one or two women told him ‘yes’ when he got in their faces and “asked” ARE YOU HAPPY ABOUT MY BIGLY FEAT OF GETTING KAVANAUGH ON THE COURT? Oh, and Susan Collins. (Will we ever know how much she was promised, in cash and equivalents, for what she did?)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4570 "2018-10-07T22:33:45Z")

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I don’t need to believe that Susan Collins was bribed. I’m willing to believe that deep down, she’s just a really shitty person.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4571 "2018-10-07T22:34:47Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> I don’t need to believe that Susan Collins was bribed. I’m willing to believe that deep down, she’s just a really shitty person.

She’s a Republican. QED.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4572 "2018-10-07T22:44:45Z")

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Collins, Flake, etc. make a big show of being independent-minded but at the end of the day they heed the party discipline when it counts and if they complain it’s about about style, not substance.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4573 "2018-10-08T01:37:38Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Those white Republican women may not like this appointment and the surrounding nastiness… but if they perceive they can’t oppose \*this \*without also opposing everything \*else \*in the platform, then they may not back down.

I look at is as they identify as being WHITE before they identify as being a WOMAN. Me, it’s a WOMAN first. They seem to think they’re going to escape the very bad things happening and the very bad things yet to come because their whiteness will protect them. And, to be fair, it probably will.

That’s for the “I don’t care” level of racists. Those who might not burn a cross in the black neighbors’ yard, but won’t call the cops on the perps either. For the cross-burning type, they don’t care what happens to other women because either they’re non-white or race traitors. As long as they have it slightly better than a black woman, they’re ok with being oppressed themselves.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4574 "2018-10-08T03:28:04Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I look at is as they identify as being WHITE before they identify as being a WOMAN.

Absolutely. As Alexis Grenell pointed out in a [NY Times Opinion](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/06/opinion/lisa-murkowski-susan-collins-kavanaugh.html) piece yesterday:

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> We’re talking about white women. The same 53 percent who put their racial privilege ahead of their second-class gender status in 2016 by voting to uphold a system that values only their whiteness, just as they have for decades. Since 1952, white women have broken for Democratic presidential candidates only twice: in the 1964 and 1996 elections, according to an analysis by Jane Junn, a political scientist at the University of Southern California.
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> Women of color, and specifically black women, make the margin of difference for Democrats. The voting patterns of white women and white men mirror each other much more closely, and they tend to cast their ballots for Republicans. The gender gap in politics is really a color line.
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> That’s because white women benefit from patriarchy by trading on their whiteness to monopolize resources for mutual gain. For white women, it’s apparently better than being “stronger together,” with the 94 percent of black women and 86 percent of Latinas who voted for Hillary Clinton.
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> During the 2016 presidential election, did white women really vote with their whiteness in mind? Lorrie Frasure-Yokley, a political scientist at U.C.L.A., recently measured the effect of racial identity on white women’s willingness to support Trump in 2016 and found a positive and statistically significant relationship. So white women who voted for him did so to prop up their whiteness.
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> In the study, white women who agreed that “many women interpret innocent remarks or acts as sexist” were 17 percent more likely to vote for a Republican candidate. They were also likely to agree that “blacks should work their way up without special favors.” To be sure, women of color aren’t inherently less sexist or even without their own racial biases. But unlike white women, they can’t use race privilege to their advantage.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4575 "2018-10-08T03:42:25Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Does Trump have any idea what the word “honored” means? It’s not a synonym for “happy”.

He understands it like he understands honor, both as noun as verb. Or rather, neither as noun nor verb.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4576 "2018-10-08T10:22:04Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> I don’t need to believe that Susan Collins was bribed. I’m willing to believe that deep down, she’s just a really shitty person.

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> She’s a Republican. QED.

I’ve seen various sites claiming that Collins’ husband is “a lobbyist with Russian connections” but as these have all been far-left fringe sites thus far I’m taking their allegations with some very large grains of salt.

But I have no issue with the “really shitty person” point.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4577 "2018-10-08T15:01:29Z")

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I think she will not earn a chapter in “Profiles in Courage” for her decision to place party loyalty (ie- not rocking the boat) over her stated commitment to a woman’s right to choose (sincere belief or sometimes politically expedient?).

She has to know that the bland reassurances given to her by Kavanaugh prior to confirmation hearings have the strength of wet toilet paper, especially after hearing him lie his pants off in the supplemental hearings.

If she does have a sincerely held belief in a woman’s right to choose, I guess you might say she was “boofed” by Kavanaugh and McConnel, but not in the (relatively) nice farty way.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4578 "2018-10-08T19:30:15Z")

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Flat out lying.  
“Every single democrat in the US Senate has signed up for open borders and its a billed called The Open Borders Bill and it’s written by, guess who, Diane Feinstein. Remember the leaking, right? The leaking Diane Feinstein.”

> **[Donald Trump Just Completely Made Up the Name of an Immigration Bill in Order...](https://secondnexus.com/news/trump-democrat-open-borders-bill)**
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> Nope.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4579 "2018-10-08T19:38:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Flat out lying.  
> “Every single democrat in the US Senate has signed up for open borders and its a billed called The Open Borders Bill and it’s written by, guess who, Diane Feinstein. Remember the leaking, right? The leaking Diane Feinstein.”  
> [WATCH: Donald Trump Says 'Every Single Democrat in the US Senate Has Signed Up for...the Open Borders Bill' - Second Nexus](https://secondnexus.com/news/trump-democrat-open-borders-bill/?utm_content=inf_10_1164_2&)

In your link, at the bottom of the first page, is this:

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> Aside from people who don’t fact check or those who believe in conspiracy theories of shadow governments, people did not buy the lies from right wing extremist media or President Trump.

The only issue I have with that is that it should say:

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> right wing extremist President Trump

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4580 "2018-10-08T20:28:03Z")

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What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? I thought we did have open borders in the first place.

It’s like saying the Democrats are planning to bomb the North Pole, kill Santa Claus and kill Christmas for all Americans if they don’t win the senate. It’s called the Kill Santa Bill.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4581 "2018-10-08T20:46:51Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? I thought we did have open borders in the first place.
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> It’s like saying the Democrats are planning to bomb the North Pole, kill Santa Claus and kill Christmas for all Americans if they don’t win the senate. It’s called the Kill Santa Bill.

“Feinstein’s legislation would abolish and end all immigration and border enforcement across the U.S., allowing the 12 to 30 million illegal aliens living in the country and all future illegal aliens to be free to travel back and forth across the hemisphere without enforcement or protections for Americans.”

“The plan would also likely ban any and all federal arrests of illegal aliens. The legislation has earned the nickname, the ‘Child Trafficking Encouragement Act,’ as it allows illegal alien smugglers to freely traffic children into the U.S. without the fear of arrest.”

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4582 "2018-10-09T00:46:30Z")

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That’s nothing. I heard that as part of their pact with the Dark One, each Democrat had to sign the bill using the blood of an American baby they anally raped to death.  
One baby each I mean, they didn’t share the one. That would have been gross.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4583 "2018-10-09T01:09:01Z")

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“ **Coal is Killing the Planet. Trump Loves It.**  
_Scientists issued a new alarm on the devastating impacts of continued burning of fossil fuels. But the Trump E.P.A. keeps propping up coal_”  
[By The (New York Times) Editorial Board](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/opinion/epa-climate-environment-trump.html?partner=rss&emc=rss)

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> …If we keep burning coal and petroleum to power our society, we’re cooked — and a lot faster than we thought. The United Nations scientific panel on climate change issued a terrifying new warning on Monday that continued emissions of greenhouse gases from power plants and vehicles will bring dire and irreversible changes by 2040, years earlier than previously forecast. The cost will be measured in trillions of dollars and in sweeping societal and environmental damage, including mass die-off of coral reefs and animal species, flooded coastlines, intensified droughts, food shortages, mass migrations and deeper poverty.
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> The worst impacts can be avoided only by a “far-reaching and unprecedented” transformation of the global energy system, including virtually eliminating the use of coal as a source of electricity, the panel warned.
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> Yet President Trump, who has questioned the accepted scientific consensus on climate change, continues to praise “clean beautiful coal” and has directed his Environmental Protection Agency to reverse major strides undertaken by the Obama administration to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from coal-fired power plants. This is unbelievably reckless. In addition to undermining the fight against climate change, the president’s efforts to prop up the dirtiest of all fuels will also exact a significant toll on public health, on the hearts and lungs of ordinary Americans…

Fake news. Who gives a fuck. Whatever.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4584 "2018-10-09T01:14:51Z")

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If the Democrats ever retake control of Congress and the White House, then I think the very first thing they should do is to enact immigration reform and have essentially loose borders, and speeding up the time for permanent residency and citizenship.

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