# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 250
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4985 "2018-11-15T04:05:27Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Al Jazeera showing the US press how to interview Trump surrogates: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbh2Y-V0Cqc&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbh2Y-V0Cqc&feature=youtu.be) @ 5:33 the interviewee says: “…[the people in the caravan] could have gotten asylum, they turned it down!..” Within the realm of bald-faced lies, that one ranks at skull-face. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4986 "2018-11-15T04:13:16Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > We need to build a horizontal wall above Trump to protect his precarious hairdo and make France pay for it! I think he’d like a [dossel](http://xurreira.blogspot.com/2010/03/el-santisimo-bajo-palio.html). It’s like the top of a four-poster bed, but mobile. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4987 "2018-11-15T04:14:12Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > “If you buy a box of cereal — you have a voter ID.” Damn, those prizes that come in the box sure have changed since I was a kid. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4988 "2018-11-15T04:32:12Z")
Someone at DHS must have told the President that there were some prospective low-pay, undocumented groundskeepers for his golf courses in the “Central American terrorist caravan.” I can’t think of why else he’s said so little about it since Election Day. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4989 "2018-11-15T04:35:07Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I think he’d like a [dossel](http://xurreira.blogspot.com/2010/03/el-santisimo-bajo-palio.html). It’s like the top of a four-poster bed, but mobile. Dossels and umbrellas are soft objects which appeal to liberals. Even a roof is kind of wimpy sounding. The MAGAspeak dictionary recommends the stronger term “horizontal walls” to protect against H2O invasions. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4990 "2018-11-15T06:22:54Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > If only there was some portable, possibly hand-held even, rain-repelling protective device one could deploy, to shield one’s person from precipitation. But I guess that technology is far off in our future. He could even get a Marine to hold it for him if he can’t get his digits around the handle. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4991 "2018-11-15T07:32:11Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Al Jazeera showing the US press how to interview Trump surrogates: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbh2Y-V0Cqc&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbh2Y-V0Cqc&feature=youtu.be) Holy Heaven. That horse’s hind-end actually said, “But the E-mails.” ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4992 "2018-11-15T08:06:25Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I want to know how his idea really works. I voted in CA. Brought my voter guide with me, no ID was shown. They looked up my name on the humongous printed spreadsheets, crossed it off and I signed in the blank spot confirming it’s me. I fill out the ballot, they drop it in, confirming my votes all count and I leave. > > So how could it actually be possible for me to just switch hats, use a southern American or British accent, go back in and say, “Sorry, old chap. I believe you’ve crossed the wrong name off. I haven’t been here yet”? If no ID was shown, then why couldn’t you instead switch hats and give them a different name? As long as it matches someone on the roll who hasn’t voted yet, then you can pose as them. IIRC voter rolls are often public records, so finding a list of extra names to use might not be a big problem. (Heck, you could even make a note of some of the names on the big spreadsheet you sign for your real vote.) If you show up at the polling station early enough, you have a good chance of voting before anyone you want to impersonate. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4993 "2018-11-15T09:47:57Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > If no ID was shown, then why couldn’t you instead switch hats and give them a different name? As long as it matches someone on the roll who hasn’t voted yet, then you can pose as them. IIRC voter rolls are often public records, so finding a list of extra names to use might not be a big problem. (Heck, you could even make a note of some of the names on the big spreadsheet you sign for your real vote.) If you show up at the polling station early enough, you have a good chance of voting before anyone you want to impersonate. And a good chance of a prison sentence. Other people in line may be that person’s neighbors, or the poll workers may know that person. Who would take that risk for an extra vote that likely wouldn’t make a difference? ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4994 "2018-11-15T10:13:29Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > And a good chance of a prison sentence. Other people in line may be that person’s neighbors, or the poll workers may know that person. Who would take that risk for an extra vote that likely wouldn’t make a difference? No, I’d say there’s a rather small chance of getting caught. The rolls for any given voting station are large enough that the people working there, and the people in line, will collectively know only a small fraction of the voters. Still, even if I were the sort of person who would want to tamper with an election, the risk of impersonating another voter is big enough that I would never do it myself. Anyway, I’m not saying that this sort of fraud is widespread, or even that it’s happened at all. I’m just trying to provide a more plausible scenario than the one envisaged by Locrian. That is, if they’re not checking ID, then the best way of double voting is to impersonate another voter, not to try to cast two votes for yourself by convincing the polling staff that they crossed off the wrong name. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4995 "2018-11-15T10:36:53Z")
I seem to recall, as a child, watching TV news footage of US Marine helicopters fly through all kinds of weather and combat conditions–rain, winds, enemy fire–in Vietnam. But a few days ago, a US Marine helicopter could not fly through a simple rain in France? I am sure that it could–but Mr. Trump did not want it to. Mr. Trump pisses me off in many ways, but not paying respects to fallen American servicemen on the 100th anniversary of the Armistice, just because it was raining, takes the cake. His helicopter could fly in the conditions; he just didn’t want it to. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4996 "2018-11-15T13:43:12Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > According to a _Vanity Fair_ article: > > [“Insanity,” “Furious,” “On His Own”: Trump’s Post-Midterms Blues Are Vexing His Staff and Roiling the White House | Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/trumps-post-midterms-blues-roil-the-white-house) > my bold > > His hair. But nobody respects veterans more than Trump. :rolleyes: Well, in his defense, it must take three or four hours to get that coif just right. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4997 "2018-11-15T13:43:49Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > No, I’d say there’s a rather small chance of getting caught. The rolls for any given voting station are large enough that the people working there, and the people in line, will collectively know only a small fraction of the voters. Still, even if I were the sort of person who would want to tamper with an election, the risk of impersonating another voter is big enough that I would never do it myself. > > Anyway, I’m not saying that this sort of fraud is widespread, or even that it’s happened at all. I’m just trying to provide a more plausible scenario than the one envisaged by Locrian. That is, if they’re not checking ID, then the best way of double voting is to impersonate another voter, not to try to cast two votes for yourself by convincing the polling staff that they crossed off the wrong name. When I was at my polling place last week, I saw the poll workers questioning someone because they didn’t feel her signature looked enough like the signature on the books. I believe she ended up showing ID. I registered to vote 35+ years ago, before I had jobs that required me to sign things frequently. So my signature on the voter books is very legible and deliberate, not like the scribble I usually use. And I’m careful to sign deliberately when I vote. So even if you glanced at the book, saw the name of someone that hadn’t voted, and gave that name to the poll worker, you’d still need to be able to credibly forge their signature, which I think most people would find difficult - and risky. Not to mention that it just doesn’t make sense. Your vote is a one in a million thing, a small drop in a big bucket. Who would risk a felony conviction in order to put two small drops in the great big bucket? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4998 "2018-11-15T14:02:05Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Well, in his defense, it must take three or four hours to get that coif just right. Or maybe his trained marmoset has a contractual “no rain” clause. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/4999 "2018-11-15T14:07:43Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > No, I’d say there’s a rather small chance of getting caught. The rolls for any given voting station are large enough that the people working there, and the people in line, will collectively know only a small fraction of the voters. Still, even if I were the sort of person who would want to tamper with an election, the risk of impersonating another voter is big enough that I would never do it myself. > > Anyway, I’m not saying that this sort of fraud is widespread, or even that it’s happened at all. I’m just trying to provide a more plausible scenario than the one envisaged by Locrian. That is, if they’re not checking ID, then the best way of double voting is to impersonate another voter, not to try to cast two votes for yourself by convincing the polling staff that they crossed off the wrong name. In my state I don’t have to show an I.D. At first. But I do have to identify myself, and sign on the line. The signature must be a close match, or else an I.D. can be asked for. To attempt to vote in place of a random person is so unlikely that we can call it not EVEN unlikely. Convincing an election worker that they scratched off the wrong name would be not even even unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5000 "2018-11-15T14:11:29Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Caravan? What caravan? I don’t see any caravan. Do you see a caravan? What wold you expect him to talk about. The problem was identified and steps taken. Why keep talking about it? Just so the left can complain, “He keeps talking about the caravan!”? ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5001 "2018-11-15T14:17:26Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Not to mention that it just doesn’t make sense. Your vote is a one in a million thing, a small drop in a big bucket. Who would risk a felony conviction in order to put two small drops in the great big bucket? Trump supporters: [Ex-GOP Official Who Accused Dems Of Voter Fraud Charged With Voter Fraud | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-curtis-voter-fraud-colorado_us_58d250e4e4b0b22b0d183ca0) “Curtis isn’t the only Trump supporter to have been charged with voter fraud. Terri Lynn Rote was arrested in October after she apparently tried to vote twice, the Des Moines Register reported.” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5002 "2018-11-15T14:21:34Z")
And another thing about Trump’s claim that one can simply change outfits and then vote again. You know who would believe that such a thing were possible? Someone who doesn’t vote. If Trump voted for himself I wouldn’t be surprised if that was his first and only vote. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5003 "2018-11-15T14:44:29Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > What wold you expect him to talk about. The problem was identified and steps taken. Why keep talking about it? Just so the left can complain, “He keeps talking about the caravan!”? 😃 Thanks – I needed a laugh today! “Problem”… ha ha ha. “Steps”… HA HA! I love it. Comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5004 "2018-11-15T14:47:34Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > What wold you expect him to talk about. The problem was identified and steps taken. Why keep talking about it? Just so the left can complain, “He keeps talking about the caravan!”? So, just an amazing coincidence that the inflection point of this storied solution occurred precisely on election day? C’mon, even you can’t believe that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=249) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=251)