# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5005 "2018-11-15T14:54:47Z")

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Republicans believe what they’re told to believe. I won’t go so far as to say they lack higher cognitive function, they just don’t seem to use it much.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5006 "2018-11-15T14:55:57Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> So, just an amazing coincidence that the inflection point of this storied solution occurred precisely on election day? C’mon, even you can’t believe that.

He can. He’s an idiot.  
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5007 "2018-11-15T15:22:12Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Republicans believe what they’re told to believe. I won’t go so far as to say they lack higher cognitive function, they just don’t seem to use it much.

Then you are kinder than I am. Non-rich Republicans lack and in many cases have never had it. Rich Republicans are just in it for the $$.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5008 "2018-11-15T15:39:19Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> What wold you expect him to talk about. The problem was identified and steps taken. Why keep talking about it? Just so the left can complain, “He keeps talking about the caravan!”?

“The left” complained that the Caravan was not a security threat to this country and was only being brought up to stoke racist fears before the midterm elections.

The fact is that if the Caravan was actually a security threat, it would still be an issue even after the midterm elections.

Yes, had Donald Trump continued talking about the Caravan, those who actually know what it’s about would be able to point out that it’s still not a security threat. However, him stopping talking about it as soon as its value as a talking point is gone is evidence that not only is the Caravan not a security threat, but he did in fact only use it to rile up the Republican base.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5009 "2018-11-15T16:00:50Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> What wold you expect him to talk about. The problem was identified and steps taken. Why keep talking about it? Just so the left can complain, “He keeps talking about the caravan!”?

Yes, steps were taken. Maybe not the right steps.

[Yesterday, Mattis visited the troops at the Texas border](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mattis-calls-deployment-to-the-border-great-training-as-he-visits-troops-in-texas/2018/11/14/b2e27070-e83e-11e8-bd89-eecf3b178206_story.html?utm_term=.3dfd10d867fe).

Meanwhile, [the first part of the caravan arrived in Tijuana.](https://abc13.com/politics/migrants-climb-wall-as-hundreds-arrive-at-us-border-in-tijuana/4690683/)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5010 "2018-11-15T16:15:43Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Yes, steps were taken. Maybe not the right steps.
> 
> [Yesterday, Mattis visited the troops at the Texas border](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mattis-calls-deployment-to-the-border-great-training-as-he-visits-troops-in-texas/2018/11/14/b2e27070-e83e-11e8-bd89-eecf3b178206_story.html?utm_term=.3dfd10d867fe).
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> Meanwhile, [the first part of the caravan arrived in Tijuana.](https://abc13.com/politics/migrants-climb-wall-as-hundreds-arrive-at-us-border-in-tijuana/4690683/)

Doh!  
And aren’t there already a few military bases in San Diego? Oh well, as long as  
the troop presence in Texas rustled up some votes for Cruz, then our military  
has served a noble and democratic purpose!

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5011 "2018-11-15T16:34:30Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Doh!  
> And aren’t there already a few military bases in San Diego? Oh well, as long as  
> the troop presence in Texas rustled up some votes for Cruz, then our military  
> has served a noble and democratic purpose!

From the above-linked article:

> [@](#):
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> Hundreds of Central American migrants traveling through Mexico, seeking asylum, have reached the U.S. border.
> 
> Video shows them climbing the wall in Tijuana.
> 
> Officials say the group of about 400 broke off from the estimated 5,000 who are currently in Mexico City.
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> Authorities also say the ones who climbed over only did so to provoke border agents into arresting them, but then climbed back over into Mexico.

Build the wall! Oh, wait…

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5012 "2018-11-15T18:10:03Z")

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Trump asked DOJ to explore extraditing Fetullah Gulen to Turkey in order to get Turkey to back off Saudi Arabia over the Kashoggi murder.

Let a dictator murder a dissident so that another dictator that murdered a dissident will continue to spend money at Trump’s hotel.

> **[Trump administration officials last month asked federal law enforcement...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-weighs-booting-erdogan-foe-u-s-appease-turkey-n933996)**
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> "Once they realized it was a serious request, the career guys were furious," a U.S. official said of request tied to Khashoggi killing.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5013 "2018-11-15T19:25:04Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> …Build the wall! Oh, wait…

I guess this section of border wall doesn’t include the alligator pits, punji sticks, landmines and laser-defense system that the New And Improved Wall Which Trump Is Totally Going To Build (And Make Mexico Pay For) will have.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5014 "2018-11-15T19:36:07Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> “The left” complained that the Caravan was not a security threat to this country and was only being brought up to stoke racist fears before the midterm elections.
> 
> The fact is that if the Caravan was actually a security threat, it would still be an issue even after the midterm elections.
> 
> Yes, had Donald Trump continued talking about the Caravan, those who actually know what it’s about would be able to point out that it’s still not a security threat. However, him stopping talking about it as soon as its value as a talking point is gone is evidence that not only is the Caravan not a security threat, but he did in fact only use it to rile up the Republican base.

Evidently the vasty majority of the caravan is still on its way. We’ll have to see the degree to which the caravan remains intact, grows, shrinks, etc. in order assess how big a problem it will be as it reaches the border. Trump did the right thing in getting things in place before the moment when they me actually be needed. Reacting _after_ the problem materializes is not wise.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5015 "2018-11-15T19:37:10Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> So, just an amazing coincidence that the inflection point of this storied solution occurred precisely on election day? C’mon, even you can’t believe that.

The major inflection point may be seen in the days and weeks ahead.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5016 "2018-11-15T19:44:10Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> If no ID was shown, then why couldn’t you instead switch hats and give them a different name? As long as it matches someone on the roll who hasn’t voted yet, then you can pose as them. IIRC voter rolls are often public records, so finding a list of extra names to use might not be a big problem. (Heck, you could even make a note of some of the names on the big spreadsheet you sign for your real vote.) If you show up at the polling station early enough, you have a good chance of voting before anyone you want to impersonate.

Because poll workers aren’t idiots.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5017 "2018-11-15T20:26:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Because poll workers aren’t idiots.

And poll workers are local residents. I don’t know all of the people at my polling station, but one of them lives on my street, i wave to her once a week or so. Also, I’ve been going to the same polling place for 16 years now, so they do actually know me a bit. We chat about the weather, I ask how busy they’ve been. We obviously don’t discuss politics 🙂

But yeah, I can’ see that working too well. If anything, just coming back in would be difficult, they aren’t stupid, as you say, you would at least have to wait a few hours.

And of course, for those who think that voter fraud is easy, they are going to get caught because even though the changed their hat, they are still wearing a MAGA hat.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5018 "2018-11-15T20:48:06Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Trump asked DOJ to explore extraditing Fetullah Gulen to Turkey in order to get Turkey to back off Saudi Arabia over the Kashoggi murder.
> 
> Let a dictator murder a dissident so that another dictator that murdered a dissident will continue to spend money at Trump’s hotel.
> 
> [To ease Turkish pressure on Saudis over killing, White House weighs expelling Erdogan foe](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-weighs-booting-erdogan-foe-u-s-appease-turkey-n933996)

Jesus Christ. The same guy that Mike Flynn and his son were plotting to “rendition” out of the country for… 9 million dollars, was it? The same scheme that likely resulted in conspiracy to kidnap charges against Flynn and his kid? Yeah, that guy.

Everything about this criminal gang in the White House turns my stomach.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5019 "2018-11-15T20:48:51Z")

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Stupid people believe in stupid solutions to problems.

Smarter people recognize that the problems are more complex than that.

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**Author:** ![mind\_the\_gap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@mind\_the\_gap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mind_the_gap)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5020 "2018-11-15T21:21:50Z")

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Apropos of nothing other than pissing me off, I tried to read some of the interview the so called president gave The Daily Caller. Now, normally I’d rather gouge my eyes out than do that, but I thought “you should try to open you view up”. My fucking head hurts after trying to read it. I think it would be easier to get a coherent interview out of a park bench mumbler than that asshole.  
One of the new people in Columbia’s gov’t claims Global Warming is a Marxist plot. Maybe Trump’s crowd will reverse their current position on the subject to fight communism.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5021 "2018-11-15T21:36:14Z")

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> [@mind\_the\_gap](#):
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> Apropos of nothing other than pissing me off, I tried to read some of the interview the so called president gave The Daily Caller. Now, normally I’d rather gouge my eyes out than do that, but I thought “you should try to open you view up”. My fucking head hurts after trying to read it. I think it would be easier to get a coherent interview out of a park bench mumbler than that asshole.  
> One of the new people in Columbia’s gov’t claims Global Warming is a Marxist plot. Maybe Trump’s crowd will reverse their current position on the subject to fight communism.

Trump has said in the past that global warming is Chinese propaganda.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5022 "2018-11-15T23:45:06Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> How dare you understand the proper use of apostrophes. You… you… elite.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> That was a beautiful thing, wasn’t it? I noticed it, too. Warmed the cockles of my heart. …

All it takes to create an Elite is to give a kid access to a lot of books (and access to at least one example of an adult who enjoys reading). And, voilà! You end up with a _reader_: someone who knows where the apostrophes should go!

(thanks, ladies!)

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5023 "2018-11-16T02:17:31Z")

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> [@mind\_the\_gap](#):
>
> Apropos of nothing other than pissing me off, I tried to read some of the interview the so called president gave The Daily Caller. Now, normally I’d rather gouge my eyes out than do that, but I thought “you should try to open you view up”. My fucking head hurts after trying to read it. I think it would be easier to get a coherent interview out of a park bench mumbler than that asshole.  
> One of the new people in Columbia’s gov’t claims Global Warming is a Marxist plot. Maybe Trump’s crowd will reverse their current position on the subject to fight communism.

Vox had a recap:

" **Trump’s latest interview shows a president who’s in way over his head**

He has no idea what he’s doing, but what else is new?"

> **[Trump’s latest interview shows a president who’s in way over his head](https://www.vox.com/2018/11/15/18096700/donald-trump-daily-caller-interview)**
>
> He has no idea what he’s doing, but what else is new?

> [@](#):
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> In some ways, the friendliest Donald Trump interviews are the most revealing. Given the opportunity to ramble and free-associate without any pushback whatsoever, you can see what channels his mind naturally follows.
> 
> His latest interview with the Daily Caller shows a president who’s fundamentally out to sea. The sycophantic interviewers can’t get Trump to answer a policy question of any kind, no matter how much of a softball they lob at him. The only subjects he is actually interested in talking about are his deranged belief in his incredible popularity and how that popularity is not reflected in actual vote totals because he’s the victim of a vast voter fraud conspiracy.
> 
> It’s the kind of thing that would be a bit sad if it were just your elderly uncle ranting about his past glories, but Trump mixes it in with authoritarian asides and the fundamental reality that whether he cares to do the actual job or not, he is ultimately the president of the United States.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5024 "2018-11-16T02:35:07Z")

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More from the Vox link. The Capt. Queeg moment is here.

> [@](#):
>
> …Trump starts answering a question he hasn’t been asked, explaining that the Mueller inquiry is for some reason an “illegal investigation”:
> 
> ```
> TRUMP: Matthew Whitaker is a very respected man. He’s — and he’s, very importantly, he’s respected within DOJ. I heard he got a very good decision, I haven’t seen it. Kellyanne, did I hear that?
> 
> WHITE HOUSE ADVISER KELLYANNE CONWAY: 20 pages.
> 
> TRUMP: A 20 page?
> 
> THE DAILY CALLER: It just came out right before this, sir.
> 
> TRUMP: Well, I heard it was a very strong opinion. Uh, which is good. But [Whitaker] is just somebody who’s very respected.
> 
> I knew him only as he pertained, you know, as he was with Jeff Sessions. And, um, you know, look, as far as I’m concerned this is an investigation that should have never been brought. It should have never been had.
> 
> It’s something that should have never been brought. It’s an illegal investigation. And you know, it’s very interesting because when you talk about not Senate-confirmed, well, Mueller’s not Senate-confirmed.
> 
> THE DAILY CALLER: Right.
> 
> TRUMP: He’s heading this whole big thing, he’s not Senate-confirmed.
> 
> ```
> 
> This is a complete non sequitur. The issue with Whitaker is whether a person who holds a DOJ job that isn’t Senate-confirmed can serve as acting attorney general. Nobody is suggesting that Mueller should serve as acting attorney general, so the fact that he isn’t Senate-confirmed has no relevance to anything. Though the sheer quantity of untrue things Trump says is so large that to be merely irrelevant is almost refreshing…

There’s more. Worth a read. Probably better if you’re stoned, as thump apparently is. The last line I quoted is priceless: _“Though the sheer quantity of untrue things Trump says is so large that to be merely irrelevant is almost refreshing.”_

Holy. Fuck.

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