# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 260
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5186 "2018-11-20T18:58:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I’ll look further into it and report back. > > As far as the pointless debate. That imbecile keeps putting forth lies. He is completely ignorant of the most rudimentary debate basics—like what a claim is, how to support a claim, the difference between a poster and a poster’s particular position, moving goal posts, etc.—yet he goes on with his lies and dumbistry, compounding them as he goes. > > Anyway, not a lot of time lately, but I will provide what you asked for. To be clear, my claim was that his money was making it’s way to the groups that ultimately provided the aid. And I am not of the mind that that they were funded by his money alone. But I will get back to you. Do I a Google search for ZOG or Holocaust denial and you’ll probably find plenty of links about Soros’s evil plans. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5187 "2018-11-20T19:28:29Z")
Germany has banned 18 Saudis and stopped all arms sales to Saudi Arabia in the wake of the Khashogghi murder. > **[Subscribe to read | Financial Times](https://www.ft.com/content/a816dda8-ebe9-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57)** > > News, analysis and comment from the Financial Times, the worldʼs leading global business publication Donald Trump, on the other hand, defends his personal involvement with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and criticizes Iran (and Democrats) in the same fell swoop. [https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/?fbclid=IwAR1dJk\_NdCOyRbJbaH3SL9dVqd5QLKL1crPy7BobnAPtwdjSbn9xrlyQ5yo](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/?fbclid=IwAR1dJk_NdCOyRbJbaH3SL9dVqd5QLKL1crPy7BobnAPtwdjSbn9xrlyQ5yo) ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5188 "2018-11-20T19:29:20Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Trump released a statement just now in which he lies about the CIA conclusion over the Kashoggi murder and then says it doesn’t matter anyway because he was an enemy of the people (a phrase he uses all the time about the press). Wait, what? It sounds like Trump is declaring open season on journalists- go ahead and kill 'em, cut 'em up with a bone saw! Do you have a link? This might be a good time to stress that I did not form my conclusions about global warming or supply side economics because of CNN or WaPo. I am able to follow the argument and come to my own conclusion. Because, facts and reasoning. Does anyone remember those? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5189 "2018-11-20T19:32:06Z")
Trump can’t help himself but criticize Democrats during the turkey pardon. > **[Trump jabs at Democrats during turkey pardon | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/11/20/trump-turkey-pardon-recount-democrat-subpoena-jokes-bts-vpx.cnn)** > > During the annual White House Thanksgiving turkey pardoning ceremony, President Donald Trump made a few quips about election recounts, House Democrats' subpoena threats, and the 9th Circuit court. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5190 "2018-11-20T19:32:24Z")
To be fair, the quote is ‘Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi was an “enemy of the state”’ ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5191 "2018-11-20T19:40:34Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Wait, what? It sounds like Trump is declaring open season on journalists- go ahead and kill 'em, cut 'em up with a bone saw! Do you have a link? [Link to the story](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/world/middleeast/trump-saudi-khashoggi.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR1cLpbmiUspe5kOeUFy37q7Lt-ZvXPmMedeTy4k8UV1qhcYjh6GBHShxJg) [Link to the statement](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/) First sentence: “The world is a very dangerous place!” Thanks for the enlightening revelation, Mr. President. :rolleyes: More sentences: > [@](#): > > Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi was an “enemy of the state” and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but my decision is in no way based on that – this is an unacceptable and horrible crime. King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi. Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event – maybe he did and maybe he didn’t! > > That being said, we may _never_ know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi. In any case, our relationship is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They have been a great ally in our very important fight against Iran. The United States intends to remain a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia to ensure the interests of our country, Israel and all other partners in the region. […] > > After the United States, Saudi Arabia is the largest oil producing nation in the world. They have worked closely with us and have been very responsive to my requests to keeping oil prices at reasonable levels – so important for the world. [Translation.](http://time.com/5452848/trump-saudi-arabia-oil-tweet/) > [@](#): > > But the U.S. president — facing pressure after Republican losses in the midterm elections — is eager to tamp down threats to the economy, including higher gas prices. In a series of tweets, Trump blamed a stock market sell-off on the Democratic victory while pressing the Saudis and OPEC to keep oil production at current levels. > > “Hopefully, Saudi Arabia and OPEC will not be cutting oil production. Oil prices should be much lower based on supply!” Trump said on Twitter. > > Trump posted the message hours after Saudi Arabia’s energy minister said that OPEC and its allies should reverse about half the increase in oil output they made earlier this year. Oil futures had gained as much as 2.4 percent in London and 1.8 percent in New York after the Saudi announcement. > > Oil futures in New York fell 0.4 percent Monday, extending a record 11th day of declines, to end the session at $59.93 a barrel. > > Trump risks testing Saudi patience — or even provoking the kingdom’s ire — at a particularly vulnerable moment, with the U.S. decision to reimpose sanctions on Iran threatening to increase prices. The administration had been counting on Saudi Arabia to ensure oil supply to prevent a run-up in prices. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5192 "2018-11-20T19:44:30Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I’ll look further into it and report back. I bet you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5193 "2018-11-20T20:04:08Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’m no military historian, but when a force withdraws from their position when the adversary arrives…isn’t that called _retreat_? That would be true, you know, if the troops weren’t in Texas while the caravan headed for Tijuana. Trump built a mini-Maginot Line, and shockingly, the “opponent” simply went around it. Whodathunk? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5194 "2018-11-20T20:13:45Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Anyway, not a lot of time lately, but I will provide what you asked for. To be clear, my claim was that his money was making it’s way to the groups that ultimately provided the aid. And I am not of the mind that that they were funded by his money alone. But I will get back to you. What’s Soros’s money buying? They’re walking, driving junk vehicles, and carrying all their possessions on their backs. They don’t seem that well-funded. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5195 "2018-11-20T20:29:59Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > What’s Soros’s money buying? They’re walking, driving junk vehicles, and carrying all their possessions on their backs. They don’t seem that well-funded. No, you see, those are just actors (paid for by Soros). The actual migrants are on a cruise ship in the Gulf of Mexico (paid for by Soros) getting ready to disembark in Miami and vote (yes, I know it’s way too late, but their votes will be “found” (by Soros) and Al Gore will be declared the winner (or something???)) ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5196 "2018-11-20T20:32:29Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > [Link to the story](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/world/middleeast/trump-saudi-khashoggi.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR1cLpbmiUspe5kOeUFy37q7Lt-ZvXPmMedeTy4k8UV1qhcYjh6GBHShxJg) > > [Link to the statement](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/) > > First sentence: “The world is a very dangerous place!” It’s worse than that. The first sentence is actually “America First!”. It makes me wonder if all official proclamations are now going to begin with that exclamation. Maybe next it will start being used as a salutation. Maybe then it will start becoming obligatory. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5197 "2018-11-20T21:26:24Z")
I wonder if some kind of arm gesture will become part of it, too…? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5198 "2018-11-20T21:33:35Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > [Link to the story](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/world/middleeast/trump-saudi-khashoggi.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR1cLpbmiUspe5kOeUFy37q7Lt-ZvXPmMedeTy4k8UV1qhcYjh6GBHShxJg) > > [Link to the statement](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-president-donald-j-trump-standing-saudi-arabia/) > > First sentence: “The world is a very dangerous place!” Thanks for the enlightening revelation, Mr. President. :rolleyes: > > More sentences: > [Translation.](http://time.com/5452848/trump-saudi-arabia-oil-tweet/) Which makes me propose that all journalists at White House press conferences be armed. Just in case, of course. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5199 "2018-11-20T21:52:32Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > First sentence: “The world is a very dangerous place!” Thanks for the enlightening revelation, Mr. President. :rolleyes:[Translation.](http://time.com/5452848/trump-saudi-arabia-oil-tweet/) “Much more so than under Obama! No president in history has made the world more dangerous than I have! MAGA!” ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5200 "2018-11-20T22:15:19Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > To be fair, the quote is ‘Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi was an “enemy of the state”’ And a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Which is followed by “but my decision is in no way based on that.” So why mention it, then? To let your fans know you think they had good reasons to kill him but maybe shouldn’t have been so obvious about it and made this whole thing so difficult for you? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5201 "2018-11-20T22:18:59Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > It’s worse than that. The first sentence is actually “America First!”. It makes me wonder if all official proclamations are now going to begin with that exclamation. Maybe next it will start being used as a salutation. Maybe then it will start becoming obligatory. To paraphrase _V for Vendetta_: America Prevails! ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5202 "2018-11-20T22:29:30Z")
[Your move Lindsay](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/lindsey-graham-impossible-believe-saudi-crown-prince-was-unaware-kashoggi-n937661) > [@](#): > > Graham said he doesn’t want to let the individuals who carried out the killing to become “the fall guy,” but instead, “I am going to do whatever I can to place blame where I believe it lies: I am going to put it at the feet of the crown prince who has been a destructive force in the Mideast.” He just said that yesterday so we’ll see if will actually stand up to Trump instead of backtracking like the sycophant little shit he is. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5203 "2018-11-20T22:34:00Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > [Your move Lindsay](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/lindsey-graham-impossible-believe-saudi-crown-prince-was-unaware-kashoggi-n937661) > > He just said that yesterday so we’ll see if will actually stand up to Trump instead of backtracking like the sycophant little shit he is. Graham is just miffed that he wasn’t immediately installed as AG. He had his _little heart_ set on that position, and now he’s just _all bothered_ that it remains out of his reach. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5204 "2018-11-21T00:03:06Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > What’s Soros’s money buying? They’re walking, driving junk vehicles, and carrying all their possessions on their backs. They don’t seem that well-funded. Apparently some of them have been receiving payment from the Trump Administration: > [@](#): > > The Department of Homeland Security is gathering intelligence from paid undercover informants inside the migrant caravan that is now reaching the California-Mexico border as well as monitoring the text messages of migrants, according to two DHS officials. … It is not known how much money DHS is spending on the intelligence gathering inside the caravan. … > **[Feds have paid undercover informants in migrant caravan](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/feds-have-paid-undercover-informants-migrant-caravan-n938416)** > > The 4,000 migrants have used WhatsApp text message groups to communicate along their journey, and DHS personnel have joined those groups to gather info. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5205 "2018-11-21T00:04:36Z")
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