# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5286 "2018-11-26T18:06:28Z")

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> [@JB99](#):
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> That’s just a goddamned joke. Using tear gas for domestic law enforcement doesn’t fall under the Law of War. Duh. Moron.
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> If they want to come in, they are allowed to ask nicely. If they want to climb the fence en masse, they deserve what they get.

Yeah, because all those kids and babies deserve a good blast of tear gas to keep them in line.

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5287 "2018-11-26T18:27:08Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> You must not consider bias as fact.

I didn’t.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> The only thing you’ve done is show evidence that there is a caravan.

As I’ve said, that’s what I was trying to show in the exchange. Glad we’re good on that.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> You’ve not said as much before.

Incorrect. I have said that I understand the motivations of most of those on the caravan. I understand why someone might want to apply for asylum, particularly in the U.S., and I don’t blame them one bit. I also understand that most of even those not seeking asylum are just trying to have a better life.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> “As well”??? You seriously think “as well” settles the score?

No, it means that my argument did hinge on one thing, which was your clear implication.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> This has absolutely fuck-all to do with liberal doctrine. I’m speaking as a former Republican who’s extremely disappointed with the simpering, fact-averse, finger-pointing conspiracy fantasists who don’t have the backbone to stand up to this ignorant man baby of a president because they’re afraid to lose power in Washington. You think the way to prove you’re right is not to listen to anybody more educated on the subject than you. That’s willful ignorance that will do you no good, limits your knowledge, prevents you from reaching your potential, and thanks to a leader of the same mindset, will ultimately destroy this country.

Ha. Let’s just say, and I’ll make sure to understate this, that while we evidently share the status of being ex-Republicans, we do not share the opinion you have of your intellect or superiority.

Like it or not, Trump, while I have my problems with him, is actually trying to protect the country. Reagan was too trusting of the Democrats, and even the Republicans, in congress, when he granted the amnesty with the promise of the border being secured. Bush (and his idiot brother) was wrong on immigration. McCain, too. And although he sort-of apologized to the electorate for being so quick to support abandoning the rule of law for illegals, he was always in the Bush camp and proved it after he was no longer a presidential candidate. Romney got excoriated for suggesting that we take away benefits of being here so illegals would self-deport. (The horror! People would leave the country of their own free will!!) Trump is trying to do what EVERY president should have done: protect our borders. If you find that to not be something a Conservative or Republican president should do, I don’t think you have a good grasp of those terms.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5288 "2018-11-26T18:47:50Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> For the love of all that’s holy, is this dialogue going anywhere??
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> I didn’t think so.

Don’t read it then.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5289 "2018-11-26T18:59:59Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I didn’t.

You don’t know what bias means then. You assume Soros funding a caravan full of criminals intent on undermining the US is fact. It’s not. It’s what you \*want \*to be fact.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> As I’ve said, that’s what I was trying to show in the exchange. Glad we’re good on that.

What, we agree there’s a caravan. What do you think “caravan” means? A mass unit of travelers, or a mass unit of Soros-funded criminals intent on undermining the US?

> [@magellan01](#):
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> Incorrect. I have said that I understand the motivations of most of those on the caravan. I understand why someone might want to apply for asylum, particularly in the U.S., and I don’t blame them one bit. I also understand that most of even those not seeking asylum are just trying to have a better life.

Your assumption that it’s a mass unit of Soros-funded criminals intent on undermining the US is what you’ve been riding up until now, but at least you toned down that rhetoric to some degree. We’re making progress!

> [@magellan01](#):
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> No, it means that my argument did hinge on one thing, which was your clear implication.

Yes, because your clear implication was that it’s a mass unit of Soros-funded criminals intent on undermining the US.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> Ha. Let’s just say, and I’ll make sure to understate this, that while we evidently share the status of being ex-Republicans, we do not share the opinion you have of your intellect or superiority.

See, that’s the fallback conservatives of today use when confronted with facts and the scientific method - this is a liberal trying to show they’re smarter than me. Another assumption and NOT a fact. That’s what damages your arguments.

> [@magellan01](#):
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> Like it or not, Trump, while I have my problems with him, is actually trying to protect the country. Reagan was too trusting of the Democrats, and even the Republicans, in congress, when he granted the amnesty with the promise of the border being secured. Bush (and his idiot brother) was wrong on immigration. McCain, too. And although he sort-of apologized to the electorate for being so quick to support abandoning the rule of law for illegals, he was always in the Bush camp and proved it after he was no longer a presidential candidate. Romney got excoriated for suggesting that we take away benefits of being here so illegals would self-deport. (The horror! People would leave the country of their own free will!!) Trump is trying to do what EVERY president should have done: protect our borders. If you find that to not be something a Conservative or Republican president should do, I don’t think you have a good grasp of those terms.

Fine. You don’t like US laws on immigration. I’m cool with that. Just don’t support it with unfounded conspiracy theories. Try linking to studies of the negative impacts of immigration. Something with ACTUAL data, not fantasy.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5290 "2018-11-26T19:01:47Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Don’t read it then.

I’m not, really. Just skimming. But wondering if you have the sense you are swaying your debating partner at all?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5291 "2018-11-26T19:05:25Z")

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Like second marriages, the triumph of hope over experience.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5292 "2018-11-26T21:21:53Z")

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After reading this, I would bet that he pissed of Mary Barra last night. Nothing like threats from the Prez…

> [@Wall Street Journal](#):
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> President Trump said he told General Motors Co. CEO Mary Barra that she should stop making cars in China and open a new plant in Ohio to replace the ones where the company is planning to end production.
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> “They better damn well open a new plant there very quickly,” Mr. Trump said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Monday. He said he had talked Sunday night with Ms. Barra, who discussed the company’s production cutbacks.
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> “I love Ohio,” Mr. Trump said. ‘I told them, ‘you’re playing around with the wrong person.’”

[https://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-says-it-will-cut-15-of-salaried-workforce-in-north-america-1543246232](https://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-says-it-will-cut-15-of-salaried-workforce-in-north-america-1543246232)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5293 "2018-11-26T21:29:37Z")

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Forest Trump is a celebration of stupidity, and a cautionary tale of why scientists should be careful about attempting to cross breed loofah sponges and orangutan shit.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5294 "2018-11-27T00:16:51Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I’m not, really. Just skimming. But wondering if you have the sense you are swaying your debating partner at all?

Read it and find out.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5295 "2018-11-27T00:46:27Z")

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During his Mississippi rally on behalf of Miss Confederacy, Trump declares that people have told him he looks like Elvis.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5296 "2018-11-27T00:53:46Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> During his Mississippi rally on behalf of Miss Confederacy, Trump declares that people have told him he looks like Elvis.

Maybe he looks like Elvis looks _now_ (or was Elvis cremated?)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5297 "2018-11-27T00:56:12Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> During his Mississippi rally on behalf of Miss Confederacy, Trump declares that people have told him he looks like Elvis.

You mean bloated and corpulent?  
Here’s hoping he leaves the planet.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5298 "2018-11-27T01:01:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You mean bloated and corpulent?  
> Here’s hoping he leaves the planet.

In prison. On a toilet.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5299 "2018-11-27T01:17:04Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Read it and find out.

The question is now moot.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5300 "2018-11-27T02:02:04Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The question is now moot.

“But who gets the car?”

“I get the car!”

“But why?”

“[The question is moot!](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x54vjte)”

(With apologies to yourself and the Rev. Jesse Jackson)

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**Author:** ![Buttercup\_Smith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buttercup_smith/32/473_2.png) [@Buttercup\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buttercup_Smith)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5301 "2018-11-27T02:19:28Z")

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> **[Donald Trump says people used to tell him he looked like Elvis](https://consequence.net/2018/11/donald-trump-elvis-presley-comparisons/)**
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> He's probably confusing looks with sociopathic tendencies.

SMH

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5302 "2018-11-27T03:40:56Z")

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The President of the United States doesn’t believe his own government’s exhaustive, multiagency climate change report: [Trump: “I don’t believe” my government’s climate change report&nbsp; - Vox](https://www.vox.com/2018/11/26/18112505/national-climate-assessment-2018-trump)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5303 "2018-11-27T03:49:27Z")

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Trump might as well visit Byron De La Beckwith’s grave.

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**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5304 "2018-11-27T03:59:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Tear gas is banned by international law. The US just committed a war crime.

> **[Obama administration used tear gas at border once a month](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/26/obama-administration-used-tear-gas-border-once-mon/)**
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> The same tear gas agent that the Trump administration is taking heat for deploying against a border mob this weekend is actually used fairly frequently — including more than once a month during some years under President Obama, according to Homeland...

Boy do we have our hands dirty!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5305 "2018-11-27T04:07:09Z")

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I will take the _Washington Times_ as a valid cite when monkeys fly out my butt singing the Hallelujah Chorus.

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