# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5326 "2018-11-27T20:11:11Z")

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> [@Dacien](#):
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> I just wonder what percent of the US population imagines Trump sitting in a room watching the scene at the border unfold, then slowly picking up a telephone and whispering, “Gas 'em.”

I would guess it is about the same percentage that was certain that Obama wasn’t born in the US.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5327 "2018-11-27T20:14:05Z")

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… or that Hillary and Obama were watching Benghazi live with their fingers, in tandem, hovering over a big red “STAND DOWN” button.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5328 "2018-11-27T20:14:25Z")

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> [@Dacien](#):
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> I just wonder what percent of the US population imagines Trump sitting in a room watching the scene at the border unfold, then slowly picking up a telephone and whispering, “Gas 'em.”

He would probably text the order.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5329 "2018-11-27T20:27:11Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He would probably text the order.

You misspelled “tweet”.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5330 "2018-11-27T20:45:57Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I think trump meant that he doesn’t fit in because Espy’s (according to him) far left, in a state that trump assumes is right leaning.
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> Shit, that makes it sound like I’m defending trump ☹

No, you’re defending reality. In context the meaning (as you stated) was crystal clear.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5331 "2018-11-27T21:01:05Z")

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Typically at least 40% of Mississippi voters vote Democratic. Are you saying that 40% of the people of Mississippi don’t fit in in their home state? What a ridiculous thing to say. So either Trump (and you) are saying something utterly nonsensical, or he meant something else…

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5332 "2018-11-27T21:19:07Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> Typically at least 40% of Mississippi voters vote Democratic. Are you saying that 40% of the people of Mississippi don’t fit in in their home state? What a ridiculous thing to say. So either Trump (and you) are saying something utterly nonsensical, or he meant something else…

Especially given that any attempt to paint Espy as “far left” is absurd. He was born in Mississippi, he’s a standard conservative Democrat who’s represented his state in the House and worked in state government. He endorsed a Republican gubernatorial candidate.

No, while I think it’s ridiculous to suggest that a black lifelong Mississippian and conservative Democrat doesn’t “fit in” with Mississippi, it is more likely that Trump was really using that ridiculous racist dogwhistle than that he had in mind any more rational argument about Espy’s alleged unsuitability.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5333 "2018-11-27T21:25:55Z")

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> [@Dacien](#):
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> I just wonder what percent of the US population imagines Trump sitting in a room watching the scene at the border unfold, then slowly picking up a telephone and whispering, “Gas 'em.”

What percent is his support these days? I’d say pretty close to that number.

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**Author:** ![Dacien](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dacien/32/5663_2.png) [@Dacien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dacien)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5334 "2018-11-27T22:01:59Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> What percent is his support these days? I’d say pretty close to that number.

I guess it does work both ways as a critique, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5335 "2018-11-27T22:16:04Z")

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> [@Dacien](#):
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> I just wonder what percent of the US population imagines Trump sitting in a room watching the scene at the border unfold, then slowly picking up a telephone and whispering, “Gas 'em.”

Maybe not, but you know that footage is being stored in his spank bank.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5336 "2018-11-28T02:52:40Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You seem to still be confused, Here is my original claim regarding Soros:  
> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by magellan01  
> There’s been no evidence of that. But there is evidence that the caravan is being helped by 1) the Mexican government, 2) an organization called Pueblos sin Fronteras The people you see wearing vests organizing things, and 3) Beto O’Rourke’s failed campaign.
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> Given that the last two receive(d) money from Soros, I think it’s safe to say that he is funding the caravan efforts other ways, as well.
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> That’s still my opinion. And if you don’t put it through your “Let me read into this and magnify x 1000 into something I can be apoplectic about filter”, it’s really an unremarkable claim. But since your x1000 filter seems to be set to automatic, yawn.

Here I thought you were finally starting to separate fact from fiction!

You also said you could understand why most of the caravan members would want to come to the US because it’s a safer environment, and you admitted you couldn’t find a direct link between Soros and the caravan.

You did link to a search of “caravan” in the NY Times archives a while back. You thought that was proof. Too bad you didn’t read [one of the articles that debunked that assumption](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/20/world/americas/migrant-caravan-video-trump.html).

Now you refer to your claim as “unremarkable.” Why even bring it up then? Way to backtrack in a way that even a 5-year old can catch!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5337 "2018-11-28T03:15:57Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Here I thought you were finally starting to separate fact from fiction!
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> You also said you could understand why most of the caravan members would want to come to the US because it’s a safer environment, and you admitted you couldn’t find a direct link between Soros and the caravan.
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> You did link to a search of “caravan” in the NY Times archives a while back. You thought that was proof. Too bad you didn’t read [one of the articles that debunked that assumption](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/20/world/americas/migrant-caravan-video-trump.html).
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> Now you refer to your claim as “unremarkable.” Why even bring it up then? Way to backtrack in a way that even a 5-year old can catch!

If by “backtrack” you mean going back to show what my actual, original claim was rather then you mischaracterizing it, then yes, it was a simple backtrack to show your inflation, confusion and either dishonesty or stupidity.

And I can’t believe you still don’t get that my cite to show proof of the caravan was simply that. Tell me, chum, do you still think that the existence of the caravan is not a fact? Funny stuff.

And finally, being able to empathize with the people in the caravan does not conflict with anything I’ve said. This is only a problem in your mind when you try to pigeonhole people to fit into your narrow mind.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5338 "2018-11-28T14:32:38Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> And I can’t believe you still don’t get that my cite to show proof of the caravan was simply that. Tell me, chum, do you still think that the existence of the caravan is not a fact? Funny stuff.

Mag, mag, mag, don’t you remember apologizing to me when you realized I didn’t doubt the existence of the caravan? Really, you should stop struggling to one-up me when all you’ve got is jack and shit.

Remember, separate fact from fiction. Did you read the debunking article I cited? It was from your NY Times:caravan link, so in essence, you just debunked yourself!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5339 "2018-11-28T18:12:29Z")

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The President, blushing modestly, says he’s just too damn smart to accept the overwhelming scientific consensus on global climate change: [President Trump says he's too intelligent to believe in climate change](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/11/28/president-trump-says-hes-too-intelligent-to-believe-in-climate-change/23603500/)

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5340 "2018-11-28T18:23:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The President, blushing modestly, says he’s just too damn smart to accept the overwhelming scientific consensus on global climate change: [President Trump says he's too intelligent to believe in climate change](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/11/28/president-trump-says-hes-too-intelligent-to-believe-in-climate-change/23603500/)

Seems like textbook Dunning-Kruger effect.

Trump seems like the type of buffoon who would also argue against the reality of evolution by saying it’s “only a theory” and “Many people have told me they don’t believe it. They actually vehemently deny it.”

I wonder if he would be willing to test the “theory of gravity” by stepping off the roof of Trump Tower. After all, it’s only a scientific theory.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5341 "2018-11-28T18:39:47Z")

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“It’s not based on facts. … It’s not data-driven,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at a news briefing Tuesday. “We’d like to see something that is more data-driven, that’s based on modeling.”

Sarah, you ignorant bitch, what in the holy fuck do you think the climate prediction is based on if not data and modeling?

Or is it that you want data from the future? Can’t quite do that yet you moron.

Your ‘boss’ is basing his ‘so intelligent’ viewpoint on his oh so scientific opinion that the ‘air and water looks clean’.

New day, same morons.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5342 "2018-11-28T18:52:26Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> “It’s not based on facts. … It’s not data-driven,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at a news briefing Tuesday. “We’d like to see something that is more data-driven, that’s based on modeling.”
> 
> Sarah, you ignorant bitch, what in the holy fuck do you think the climate prediction is based on if not data and modeling?
> 
> Or is it that you want data from the future? Can’t quite do that yet you moron.
> 
> Your ‘boss’ is basing his ‘so intelligent’ viewpoint on his oh so scientific opinion that the ‘air and water looks clean’.
> 
> New day, same morons.

I suspect that they want a model that shows that global warming is not happening.

Then they will cherry-pick the data to fit that model. I imagine there is some Koch brother-funded research out there that will “fit” the bill, so to speak. All other data will be considered outliers that can be disregarded.

After all, Trump is on the record as saying he doesn’t trust scientists because they have political agendas. As opposed to fossil fuel companies.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5343 "2018-11-28T18:54:38Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Mag, mag, mag, don’t you remember apologizing to me when you realized I didn’t doubt the existence of the caravan? Really, you should stop struggling to one-up me when all you’ve got is jack and shit.
> 
> Remember, separate fact from fiction. Did you read the debunking article I cited? It was from your NY Times:caravan link, so in essence, you just debunked yourself!

I said “if”, dummy, not remembering if it was you or not. But you’re not worth going back to look it up, so I didn’t. Yet you bring up the caravan again?? The one I provide cites for the existence of…the same one we evidently both agree is 100% real. Sorry, but it appears you should just read my previous post over and over again until it sinks in. And then you can reread it.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5344 "2018-11-28T19:42:59Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> “It’s not based on facts. … It’s not data-driven,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at a news briefing Tuesday. “We’d like to see something that is more data-driven, that’s based on modeling.”
> 
> Sarah, you ignorant bitch, what in the holy fuck do you think the climate prediction is based on if not data and modeling?
> 
> Or is it that you want data from the future? Can’t quite do that yet you moron.
> 
> Your ‘boss’ is basing his ‘so intelligent’ viewpoint on his oh so scientific opinion that the ‘air and water looks clean’.
> 
> New day, same morons.

MSNBC has stopped carrying the Huckster’s press conferences, and CNN ran a live fact check on screen while she was talking.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5345 "2018-11-28T19:46:02Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> MSNBC has stopped carrying the Huckster’s press conferences, and CNN ran a live fact check on screen while she was talking.

That’s great. Now if we could only get the people that need to see it to change the god damned channel.

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