# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 275
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5486 "2018-12-20T01:04:38Z")
> [@JB99](#): > > Not Trump himself, but I still encounter people who talk about how Trump is kicking ass and fighting back and sticking it to the libtards. > > I don’t understand what reality these people live in. Ours. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5487 "2018-12-20T01:14:00Z")
> [@JB99](#): > > Not Trump himself, but I still encounter people who talk about how Trump is kicking ass and fighting back and sticking it to the libtards. > > I don’t understand what reality these people live in. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Yes, the mind boggles. And you know how we use the meme “Why do you hate freedom” in jest? Those people are sincere when they say it to us. I don’t say it to them in jest… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5488 "2018-12-20T02:08:18Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > The line I hear most often these days is “Well, he’s still better than what Hillary would have been.” The amusing part, in a sad, terribly sad way, is that when you query them on _exactly how_ Ms. Clinton would have been worse than Trump, they start trotting out all the stuff they were quaking in their boots about what they thought Clinton might do but which Trump and his cronies are actually doing. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5489 "2018-12-20T15:15:45Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Yes, the mind boggles. And you know how we use the meme “Why do you hate freedom” in jest? Those people are sincere when they say it to us. Ah, to be fair they don’t hate freedom; they hate freedom for anybody but themselves. Problem is it blows up in their faces (as in the leopards-eating-my-face-party meme that was floating around a while ago). ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5490 "2018-12-21T06:22:31Z")
The stock market has dropped about 10% in the last few weeks, with the [worst December since the Great Depression](https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/investing/stocks-worst-december-since-great-depression/index.html). Normally, I don’t worry too much about the ups and downs of the market, because I’m in it for the long haul for my retirement accounts. However, that’s not the case for my son’s 529 plan, which holds the money I need to pay his college tuition. I had just enough in the account to cover his last semester at college, but it’s dropped in value by about 10% over the last month. I have to cash this out to pay the bill that is due, so I won’t get the benefit of any recovery in the market (i.e. my losses are now being locked in). Worse, I now have to make up for the shortfall in order to cover my son’s tuition bill by pulling money out of my savings. All because our country is being run by the village idiot. :mad: P.S. Can’t wait to do my taxes for this year, when I find out how badly I’ve been screwed by last year’s tax bill (which eliminated most of my SALT deductions). ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5491 "2018-12-21T15:10:17Z")
> [@robby](#): > > P.S. Can’t wait to do my taxes for this year, when I find out how badly I’ve been screwed by last year’s tax bill (which eliminated most of my SALT deductions). It will be interesting to see how the tax cuts shake out when we do our 2018 submissions. Hopefully they got the new withholding tables correct (a quick glance at Mnuchin makes me think they didn’t). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5492 "2018-12-22T23:00:45Z")
Twitler, an idiot as ever, heedless of the problems he’s causing with the world economy with his \*#&^! trade war with China, wonders if he can fire the Fed chairman he appointed just a year ago: [Trump discusses firing Fed chairman Jerome Powell after latest rate increase | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/22/politics/trump-jerome-powell-fire-interest-rate-hike/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5493 "2018-12-22T23:49:22Z")
If he does fire the Fed chairman, who can decide whether or not it is based on “cause”? What if Trump just says “He wrecked the stock market”? Isn’t that “cause”? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5494 "2018-12-23T15:48:07Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > If he does fire the Fed chairman, who can decide whether or not it is based on “cause”? > > What if Trump just says “He wrecked the stock market”? Isn’t that “cause”? In employment, termination can be for cause, or for performance. Cause is disciplinary related, for instance if he was stealing office supplies. Performance is a metric that employers can evaluate pay, and even terminate employment, based on the somewhat arbitrary perception of results of their work. If someone is trying to claim unemployment, then firing with cause for discipline is easier to defend than firing for performance. I don’t know exactly how it would play out, but, in my IANAL opinion, I would say that cuase would deal with the discipline side of things, rather than the performance side, which would mean that he would not be able to fire him because he doesn’t like what the stock market is doing. Ultimately, though, it would be up to him, as there really is no one above him to question his authority. Though I would find it amusing if the jobs and family services department that is relevant to his position finds that the termination was without cuase when he files for unemployment. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5495 "2018-12-23T20:53:30Z")
Our investments are down several thousand dollars for the year. Thanks a lot, you vicious orange piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5496 "2018-12-23T20:57:21Z")
“I don’t like what he’s doing and I irrationally blame him for the very problems I’m causing” is not usually considered “for cause.” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5497 "2018-12-23T23:36:02Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Our investments are down several thousand dollars for the year. Thanks a lot, you vicious orange piece of shit. Sadly this is true for hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people. Less sadly, it may be the world’s best hope of convincing a Congress (which is driven by the wishes of the donor class), to pry the rancid clown’s fat ass out of his Oval Office desk chair, and kick him to the curb. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5498 "2018-12-24T01:17:51Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Our investments are down several thousand dollars for the year. Thanks a lot, you vicious orange piece of shit. My Aunt just passed, and we can’t touch her investments for 120 days due to probate. We’ll likely see a loss of over $250,000 over that time period. Thanks, Orange Faced Shit-Gibbon. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5499 "2018-12-24T12:49:23Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Our investments are down several thousand dollars for the year. Thanks a lot, you vicious orange piece of shit. Mine is down 9.3% from a year ago and it is a post-retirement, mostly income fund. I can only imagine how the growth funds are doing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5500 "2018-12-24T13:21:05Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Mine is down 9.3% from a year ago and it is a post-retirement, mostly income fund. I can only imagine how the growth funds are doing. I afraid to look. I’m guessing my Wife and I have lost about $30,000. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5501 "2018-12-24T13:33:44Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I afraid to look. I’m guessing my Wife and I have lost about $30,000. I looked. And, as I’m about to retire, called my financial person and said “Should I put off my retirement? I could work another year.” She said “Nope. Go ahead and retire. Just DON’T SELL any of your stocks. You’re in this for the long haul, and even a months-long depression won’t make a huge difference. In fact, I’m buying you stocks at fire sale prices right now.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5502 "2018-12-25T04:49:58Z")
It’s Christmas Eve in Washington, and of course that means the President has released a thoughtful, reverent statement about a beloved holiday important to so many of his fellow citizens. … nah, who am I kidding? He’s bitching and moaning on Twitter, as always: [On Christmas Eve, Trump airs more grievances](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/12/24/on-christmas-eve-trump-airs-more-grievances/23626426/) ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5503 "2018-12-25T07:25:16Z")
Lets be fair. He did take some time off from tweeting to mock a child for believing in Santa Claus. [Link](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-santa-norad-calls_us_5c21aebce4b05c88b6fb8580) He really is a horrible person, isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5504 "2018-12-25T12:49:50Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Lets be fair. He did take some time off from tweeting to mock a child for believing in Santa Claus. > [Link](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-santa-norad-calls_us_5c21aebce4b05c88b6fb8580) > He really is a horrible person, isn’t he? Honestly, he doesn’t start out intending to be horrible but rather totally lacks empathy. He cannot conceive anyone else as people, merely animate objects to manipulate into giving him money. The kid was in no position to do so and gets denigrated. Compare with Cece’s answer to, “[Is there a Santa Claus?](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1370/is-there-a-santa-claus/)” > [@The Perfect Master](#): > > Besides, to believe in Santa Claus is to believe in magic. The belief in magic in many respects is a pernicious thing. Because of it you’ve got countless multitudes thinking that aliens abduct people, that Elvis is alive, that you can earn big money stuffing envelopes in your home, and that the TV preacher can cure you if you send him 50 bucks. A certain class of persons, of whom your columnist is one, will go through their lives attempting to extinguish these foolish hopes. No doubt in the main it is good that we do so. But even the sternest among us remembers the wonder we felt as children to think there was a force having a kindly interest in us that wasn’t bound by the rules of this drab world. Wherefore if there’s someone who’s going to say flat out that Santa Claus doesn’t exist, it’s not going to be me. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5505 "2018-12-26T04:52:54Z")
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