# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 276
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5506 "2018-12-27T14:19:37Z")
The CINC (mis)leads the troops, in more ways than one: [Trump misleads about military pay raises again | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/politics/trump-misleads-military-pay-raise-again/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5507 "2018-12-27T14:25:47Z")
Well, to be fair, it was the _largest_ pay increase in ten years (not the only) so, unlike most of Donny Two-scoops pronouncements, it wasn’t cut from whole cloth. Of course, he had dick to do with it anyway, par for the course. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5508 "2018-12-28T02:13:31Z")
[Trump Administration suggests furloughed workers do chores for landlords to help pay rent.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-suggests-furloughed-workers-do-chores-for-landlords-to-help-pay-rent) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5509 "2018-12-28T02:21:42Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Trump Administration suggests furloughed workers do chores for landlords to help pay rent.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-suggests-furloughed-workers-do-chores-for-landlords-to-help-pay-rent) From the article: “The agency also urged workers to “please consult with your personal attorney” for any required legal advice amid the partial government shutdown, during which nearly 800,000 workers have either been furloughed or asked to work without pay.” Maybe they can also do chores for their lawyers in exchange for legal advice. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5510 "2018-12-28T02:41:16Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > From the article: > > “The agency also urged workers to “please consult with your personal attorney” for any required legal advice amid the partial government shutdown, during which nearly 800,000 workers have either been furloughed or asked to work without pay.” > > Maybe they can also do chores for their lawyers in exchange for legal advice. Nah, it’s likely that a worker who needs to trade manual labor for rent is going to find it practical to pay an attorney for assistance. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5511 "2018-12-28T03:58:04Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Trump Administration suggests furloughed workers do chores for landlords to help pay rent.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-suggests-furloughed-workers-do-chores-for-landlords-to-help-pay-rent) I don’t even want to know what his advice is for females in that situation. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5512 "2018-12-28T04:10:51Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I don’t even want to know what his advice is for females in that situation. Sleep with Trump for a minimum $130,000? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5513 "2018-12-28T14:40:31Z")
Don’t you mean _not_ sleep with him? After all, he paid $130,000 to not sleep with Stormy Daniels. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5514 "2018-12-28T16:08:50Z")
That was certainly win-win for Stormy. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5515 "2018-12-28T16:42:12Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Trump Administration suggests furloughed workers do chores for landlords to help pay rent.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-suggests-furloughed-workers-do-chores-for-landlords-to-help-pay-rent) > [@dasmoocher](#): > > From the article: > > “The agency also urged workers to “please consult with your personal attorney” for any required legal advice amid the partial government shutdown, during which nearly 800,000 workers have either been furloughed or asked to work without pay.” > > Maybe they can also do chores for their lawyers in exchange for legal advice. And what are those with a mortgage supposed to do? Work for the bank? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5516 "2018-12-28T17:10:38Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > And what are those with a mortgage supposed to do? Work for the bank? Are you suggesting that some federal workers are **homeowners**?? :eek: Surely not! They’re just menials, after all, aren’t they? Nameless, faceless cogs in the gummint machine. Kinda like the immigrants. Not worthy of individual notice. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5517 "2018-12-28T17:29:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Are you suggesting that some federal workers are **homeowners**?? :eek: Surely not! They’re just menials, after all, aren’t they? Nameless, faceless cogs in the gummint machine. Kinda like the immigrants. Not worthy of individual notice. According to Donnie most of them are democrats too. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5518 "2018-12-28T18:21:46Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Trump Administration suggests furloughed workers do chores for landlords to help pay rent.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-suggests-furloughed-workers-do-chores-for-landlords-to-help-pay-rent) Okay, so lets say that workers work something out with their landlords to keep from being evicted. What does this do for the landlords? If a landlord has a tenant or two who can’t pay, that’s just the landlord’s deal, and he will have little choice to eat the costs until he can get them evicted and replaced with paying tenants. When the number is higher, even if only 10-20%, that landlord is going to start having trouble paying the bills on the property. The landlord isn’t going to be able to make trades with the bank, the utilities, the tax commision that all want his money. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5519 "2018-12-28T18:29:21Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > When the number is higher, even if only 10-20%, that landlord is going to start having trouble paying the bills on the property. The landlord isn’t going to be able to make trades with the bank, the utilities, the tax commision that all want his money. That’s easy. The landlord pays his bills with the the money he saves by not having to pay maintenance people. Of course, now they’re out of a job, so they can’t pay their landlord… It is barter all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5520 "2018-12-28T18:31:09Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > That’s easy. The landlord pays his bills with the the money he saves by not having to pay maintenance people. Of course, now they’re out of a job, so they can’t pay their landlord… It is barter all the way down. Perhaps the landlord who is not getting paid could do some chores for the bank. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5521 "2018-12-28T18:32:19Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Trump Administration suggests furloughed workers do chores for landlords to help pay rent.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-suggests-furloughed-workers-do-chores-for-landlords-to-help-pay-rent) Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5522 "2018-12-28T18:34:41Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > From the article: > > “The agency also urged workers to **“please consult with your personal attorney”** for any required legal advice amid the partial government shutdown, during which nearly 800,000 workers have either been furloughed or asked to work without pay.” > > Maybe they can also do chores for their lawyers in exchange for legal advice. Hey, Michael Cohen is looking for work. I’m sure he can ‘fix’ it. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5523 "2018-12-28T18:43:52Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week. Federal pay varies greatly across the range of office workers to management level (just like you would expect at any corporation). Also, I have many automatic payments and investments timed after each automatic paycheck deposit. Missing just one would be a major PITA to temporarily rework. Wouldn’t you be pissed off if you didn’t get paid because your boss/CEO was so incompetent he couldn’t run his company? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5524 "2018-12-28T18:45:10Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week. Do you ever contribute anything worthwhile or do you just live to shit on people? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5525 "2018-12-28T18:58:45Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week. If you would take the time to do just a small amount of research, you would find that many Americans live paycheck to paycheck. [This](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/most-americans-live-paycheck-to-paycheck.html) article states that 78% of full-time workers find themselves in that situation. And that presumably includes those highly-salaried federal employees of which you speak. > [@](#): > > Even those making over six figures said they struggle to make ends meet, the report said. Nearly 1 in 10 of those making $100,000 or more said they usually or always live paycheck to paycheck, and 59 percent of those in that salary range said they were in the red. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=275) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=277)