# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5526 "2018-12-28T19:35:09Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week.

[Not really.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/04/11/federal-employees-lag-private-sector-workers-in-salaries-by-32-percent-on-average-report-says/)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5527 "2018-12-28T19:36:20Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week.

This is 100% irrelevant to the discussion going on. What people do with their paychecks is their business. If they get the money and throw it in a roaring fire or flush it down the toilet, that’s their business. If they stuff it in 50-gallon drums and bury it in their backyards, that’s their business. Whether they’re down to their last $1.00 or have $1 million in the bank is completely irrelevant. Your comment has nothing to do with anything and BTW contributes as much to the discussion as it did when thump said it. So your thought isn’t even original.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5528 "2018-12-28T20:06:10Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Federal pay varies greatly across the range of office workers to management level (just like you would expect at any corporation).

And also varies between metropolitan areas.

I’m in danger of being forced out of my locality because my property taxes & condo fee have been increasing at a greater rate than my salary, yet are still below the market rate to rent a place of the same size.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5529 "2018-12-28T20:20:56Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Do you ever contribute anything worthwhile or do you just live to shit on people?

He shits on himself too.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5530 "2018-12-28T20:23:44Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Do you ever contribute anything worthwhile or do you just live to shit on people?

This is one of those deals where you know the answer but want to hear him say it, right?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5531 "2018-12-28T20:46:28Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week.

And also… it’s only been a week, but they don’t know how long this is going to go on.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5532 "2018-12-28T22:07:37Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Aren’t federal employees paid a (relatively) decent salary? Why are they still living paycheck to paycheck? It’s only been one week.

Y’all know it took me all of 3 minutes to do the homework you should have done… [https://www.federalpay.org/gs/2018](https://www.federalpay.org/gs/2018)

30 minutes detention for you!

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5533 "2018-12-28T22:11:18Z")

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Living rent-free in mommy’s basement tends to distort one’s understanding of economic realities.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5534 "2018-12-28T22:30:51Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> And what are those with a mortgage supposed to do? Work for the bank?

I read this and had a flash of America after Trump’s Presidency being a giant apocalyptic version of Bartertown from _Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome_.

I noticed this movie quote on IMDB that sums up how the admin tries to implement its policies:

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> Max: So, what’s the plan?
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> Pigkiller: [laughing] PLAN? There ain’t no plan!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5535 "2018-12-29T00:15:58Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Living rent-free in mommy’s basement tends to distort one’s understanding of economic realities.

So does worshiping Ayn Rand.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5536 "2018-12-29T00:23:53Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> From the article:
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> “The agency also urged workers to “please consult with your personal attorney” for any required legal advice amid the partial government shutdown, during which nearly 800,000 workers have either been furloughed or asked to work without pay.”
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> Maybe they can also do chores for their lawyers in exchange for legal advice.

I got a kick out of that “consult with your personal attorney” bit. Yeah, right. All federal workers have an attorney on retainer. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5537 "2018-12-29T00:25:17Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Living rent-free in mommy’s basement tends to distort one’s understanding of economic realities.

I wonder what’s going to happen if mommy happens to be a federal worker, too. That basement ain’t paying for itself!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5538 "2018-12-29T01:57:04Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Trump Administration suggests furloughed workers do chores for landlords to help pay rent.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-suggests-furloughed-workers-do-chores-for-landlords-to-help-pay-rent)

Huh.

Is the Administration also suggesting that landlords go along with this strategy,

The America-hating fuckstick has a long history of being a landlord. Anybody care to guess how HE would have handled such a negotiation?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5539 "2018-12-29T01:58:42Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Huh.
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> Is the Administration also suggesting that landlords go along with this strategy,
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> The America-hating fuckstick has a long history of being a landlord. Anybody care to guess how HE would have handled such a negotiation?

Allow the work then refuse to credit the rent because the work was so badly done.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5540 "2018-12-29T02:03:28Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Allow the work then refuse to credit the rent because the work was so badly done.

Heh.

Toosh, as they say in France.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5541 "2018-12-29T02:06:04Z")

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This needs to happen.

Ordinary people by the millions need to feel the pain of a President Trump.

This is a beautiful thing. I hope the government stays shut down for 6 months, followed by a great depression.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5542 "2018-12-29T02:13:52Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> This needs to happen.
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> Ordinary people by the millions need to feel the pain of a President Trump.
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> This is a beautiful thing. I hope the government stays shut down for 6 months, followed by a great depression.

That’s pretty terrible to wish for.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5543 "2018-12-29T02:27:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> This needs to happen.
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> Ordinary people by the millions need to feel the pain of a President Trump.
> 
> This is a beautiful thing. I hope the government stays shut down for 6 months, followed by a great depression.

> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> That’s pretty terrible to wish for.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Avoidance of such an outcome is one of those things that my uncle Hamlet would have called a consummation devoutly to be wished.

But in a worst-case scenario, it might be the only pathway through this wilderness. If so, better to get it over with, no?  
(DISCLAIMER: Hamlet wasn’t really my uncle)

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5544 "2018-12-29T02:40:57Z")

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Not so sure I’d call it a “beautiful” thing or wish for it to happen.

People will die. And you know what’s funny about fiscal calamity? The only thing that actually does trickle down is the pain.

I get the schadenfreude of Trump voters being kicked off Obamacare but some of them will die and even more of them will be people who didn’t vote for him and don’t deserve death.

But even if it’s an inevitability, rooting for it is a shitty thing to do.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5545 "2018-12-29T02:53:40Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> Not so sure I’d call it a “beautiful” thing or wish for it to happen.
> 
> People will die. And you know what’s funny about fiscal calamity? The only thing that actually does trickle down is the pain.
> 
> I get the schadenfreude of Trump voters being kicked off Obamacare but some of them will die and even more of them will be people who didn’t vote for him and don’t deserve death.
> 
> But even if it’s an inevitability, rooting for it is a shitty thing to do.

It’s not even that I’m rooting for it - I think it’s going to happen. I’d just rather it happen sooner rather than later so that the recovery can start sooner.

Sorry, but when 63 million people vote for someone so patently unqualified to hold office…that has consequences. Don’t get mad at me.

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