# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/541 "2017-02-26T21:07:19Z")

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I thought it was Kim Jong-Il with the mythic golfing prowess.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/542 "2017-02-26T21:40:03Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I thought it was Kim Jong-Il with the mythic golfing prowess.

I think all dictators tend to excel at their chosen sport. Golf, judo, etc.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/543 "2017-02-26T21:50:11Z")

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[Santa Cruz police are angry that DHS lied to them about a gang sweep which was a cover for an immigration sweep, which the Santa Cruz police say they would not have participated in.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/santa-cruz-ice_us_58b21722e4b060480e089046?section=politics)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/544 "2017-02-26T23:33:35Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I thought it was Kim Jong-Il with the mythic golfing prowess.

No, Jong-Il, like Trump are excellent gymnasts, you should see what they can do on the pommel horse.

(my apologies to anyone that will be eating in the next few hours, though I may have a new diet to suggest).

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/545 "2017-02-26T23:49:01Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Trump has [GE’s Immelt tell everyone about his hole in one](http://www.golfchannel.com/news/grill-room/trump-makes-ge-ceo-recount-trump-hole-one-story/).

Pfft. How many 300 games has he bowled?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/546 "2017-02-27T00:21:12Z")

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Now it’s being announced Trump’s pick for Navy Secretary is withdrawing his nomination, the second military pick to do so after the Army Secretary nominee earlier.

CNN is pointing out that news outlets reported a week ago the Navy guy was going to do this, prompting Sean Spicer to accuse everyone of more fake news.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/547 "2017-02-27T02:13:31Z")

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> [@Qwisp](#):
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> … She sold her soul for money and she got cheated in the deal You can see it in her face every time The Donald Shitgibbon turns away from her. Look miserable, he turns around, big smile,rinse, repeat.

She is the living example of

“Beware what you ask for, you might get it”.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/548 "2017-02-27T02:18:31Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> That’s nothing. Kim Jong Un got 13 holes in one the first time he ever played golf1!!!11!!
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> And so it goes. The first thing to go in a dictatorship is the free press.
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> Freeing up marijuana laws to the states has created 7-10,000 jobs in Colorado. And 40 million dollars to build new public schools. Of course the AG won’t consider that.
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> [Huffington Post](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/19/benefits-legalizing-weed-by-the-numbers_n_5173785.html)
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> From the above link - $40 million: The amount of marijuana tax revenue Colorado is devoting to public school construction in Colorado.
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> 7,500-10,000: The estimated number of marijuana industry jobs that currently exist in Colorado, according to Michael Elliott, the Executive Director of the Marijuana Industry Group, a trade association that advocates for responsible marijuana regulation.

What happened to States Rights? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/549 "2017-02-27T02:28:01Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> What happened to States Rights? :dubious:

Those are only for discriminating against undesirables and promoting a state-sponsored religion.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/550 "2017-02-27T02:31:33Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Those are only for discriminating against undesirables and promoting a state-sponsored religion.

That’s what I thought. Kinda like the way at one time, States Rights were used expressly for supporting slavery, or Jim Crow laws.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/551 "2017-02-27T02:56:03Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> What happened to States Rights? :dubious:

Just more of the right’s hypocrisy. Personally, I’m a huge advocate of state sovereignty and states’ rights, even though I know many states are going to make horrible, even evil, choices and decisions (I’m looking at you North Carolina). The right pretends to support states’ rights, but has no compunctions about trampling all over them when the state supports something other than the right’s agenda. At least the left (generally) doesn’t lie about trampling all over states’ rights. Everyone knows the left is going to do it. It really is mind-boggling how supporters of the right apologize or even not notice when their side does it (and they do it as often as the left does), but cry bloody murder when the left does it. I guess simply saying “we are for states’ rights” is enough; no need to actually act in that manner.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/552 "2017-02-27T03:27:47Z")

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“I have always been a friend of states’ rights and a foe of states’ wrongs.” - Benjamin Butler

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/553 "2017-02-27T03:40:10Z")

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Granted the quote is ~150 years old and may not have been recorded accurately, but I believe it goes “[I was always a friend of southern rights but an enemy of southern wrongs.](https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/the-beast-in-the-big-easy/?_r=0)”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/554 "2017-02-27T14:20:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> “I have always been a friend of states’ rights and a foe of states’ wrongs.” - Benjamin Butler

Off the top of my head–I don’t think any of the states that have legalized recreational weed went for Trump in the election. Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/555 "2017-02-27T15:55:04Z")

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There was Seward’s Folly, but they barely count.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/556 "2017-02-27T20:16:41Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Off the top of my head–I don’t think any of the states that have legalized recreational weed went for Trump in the election. Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

Could that be proof that marijuana improves cognitive thinking?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/557 "2017-02-27T20:26:18Z")

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Donald Trump: “[Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated,](http://www.sfgate.com/news/medical/article/Trump-calls-for-replacement-of-Obamacare-10962598.php)”

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/558 "2017-02-27T20:32:35Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Donald Trump: “[Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated,](http://www.sfgate.com/news/medical/article/Trump-calls-for-replacement-of-Obamacare-10962598.php)”

That one is pretty rich. I sure hope the Democrats successfully land the message that the Republicans own this lock, stock and barrel. The President and both houses of Congress have run on this for 8 years, and they need to get it right or die on this hill.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/559 "2017-02-27T20:39:18Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Off the top of my head–I don’t think any of the states that have legalized recreational weed went for Trump in the election. Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

IMHO it is not a coincidence that the threat of going after marijuana in those states is because they did legalize it. The threats are made with the understanding that a lot of the money from Marijuana regulation and sales is going to those states and does wonders to their balanced budgets.

Can not have the people from conservative states like Kansas with busted budgets wonder if they are being left behind and should consider solutions like that.

There is also, I think, the issue that it is very likely that people involved in Marijuana production and sales do give more money to liberal causes. So, it is just as what Nixon and henchmen realized in the 60’s.

> **[Nixon official: real reason for the drug war was to criminalize black people...](https://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11278760/war-on-drugs-racism-nixon)**
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> Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology,...

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> At the time, I was writing a book about the politics of drug prohibition. I started to ask Ehrlichman a series of earnest, wonky questions that he impatiently waved away. “You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect.
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> “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

What is going on is more evidence for what I pointed out years ago in the SDMB: The people arrested for drug offenses that do not involve the use of deadly force **are our political prisoners**.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/560 "2017-02-27T20:41:31Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Donald Trump: “[Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated,](http://www.sfgate.com/news/medical/article/Trump-calls-for-replacement-of-Obamacare-10962598.php)”

Sure, nobody knew; at least, none of those in mindless opposition, who voted to repeal it 40 times and never gave a thought to how to fix or replace it. Yup, nobody. Sooo complicated.

Now, the hundreds of policy wonks in the Clinton and Obama administrations who actually studied the issue: they might have had a clue as to the complexity of the issue; but Donald probably didn’t include them.

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