# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 280
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5586 "2019-01-06T22:27:55Z")
The United States boycotted the 1980 Olympics in Moscow over the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. In 2019, the “President of the United States” said that Russia was correct in invading Afghanistan. [https://www.newstimes.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Trump-endorses-the-1979-Soviet-invasion-of-13504318.php](https://www.newstimes.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Trump-endorses-the-1979-Soviet-invasion-of-13504318.php) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5587 "2019-01-06T22:28:24Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > …Trump, and now the rest of the Republicans, are demanding 5 billion in funding for the wall. But if pressed for details, nobody would be able to specify where this wall is to be built, or how it should be built, or any other facet of this boondoggle. Hell, there are still unused border security funds from the last appropriations bill that haven’t been spent. What good is a slush fund if you have to waste big chunks of it on a construction project? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5588 "2019-01-06T23:17:25Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > This is spot on. Trump, and now the rest of the Republicans, are demanding 5 billion in funding for the wall. But if pressed for details, nobody would be able to specify where this wall is to be built, or how it should be built, or any other facet of this boondoggle. Hell, there are still unused border security funds from the last appropriations bill that haven’t been spent. Perhaps they think they can just split up the money when no one is looking. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5589 "2019-01-07T01:22:16Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > This is spot on. Trump, and now the rest of the Republicans, are demanding 5 billion in funding for the wall. But if pressed for details, nobody would be able to specify where this wall is to be built, or how it should be built, or any other facet of this boondoggle. Hell, there are still unused border security funds from the last appropriations bill that haven’t been spent. Well, for a real project (public or private), one of the first steps would be spending money on feasibility. I don’t know if any of the $5 billion is earmarked for that, but one would hope. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5590 "2019-01-07T01:53:04Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Well, for a real project (public or private), one of the first steps would be spending money on feasibility. I don’t know if any of the $5 billion is earmarked for that, but one would hope. Feasibility studies are for losers. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5591 "2019-01-07T02:50:42Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Feasibility studies are for losers. Or, as Tan the Conman sees it all: Environmental Impact Statements? _L_oser! Financial Disclosure Statements? _I_mpertinent loser! Competitive Bidding Process? _A_re you kidding me, you loser? Comply with federal regulations? _R_egulations are for losers! ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5592 "2019-01-07T06:47:00Z")
It’s all starting to make sense to me now. The $5B is for the pre-feasibility-study study group — which will be meeting at a Trump facility. Only when they’ve exhausted that money will the process move on to an actual feasibility study. Excuse me, the nurse says my bath and wet packs are ready now … ETA: Cute, **Monty**. Reeeeaaaaallll cute. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5593 "2019-01-07T07:01:53Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > ETA: Cute, **Monty**. Reeeeaaaaallll cute. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5594 "2019-01-07T21:32:53Z")
> [@Donald Trump](#): > > I am proud to shut down the government for border security. > [@https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/shutdown-donald-trump-nancy-pelosi/index.html](#): > > Trump “said he’d keep the government closed for a very long period of time – months or even years,” according to Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, who spoke to reporters in the White House driveway. > “Absolutely I said that,” Trump affirmed from the Rose Garden shortly afterward. > [@Donald Trump](#): > > Friend, for the past two weeks we’ve seen just how low the Democrats will sink in order to obstruct our agenda and everything we’ve accomplished since 2016. > > Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer shut down YOUR government by choosing illegal immigrants over hard-working American patriots like YOU. NO MORE! > > The only reason Democrats shut down the government is because they know they can’t win in 2020. They don’t care about your safety, they only care about Presidential Harassment! What a fuck. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5595 "2019-01-07T22:40:54Z")
And every one of his die-hards are changing their reality as he proceeds to change his description of it. I forget who it was who suggested keeping a daily journal during eras of fascism to keep track of how the truth warps into fabulosity. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5596 "2019-01-08T01:49:36Z")
Many will be pissed off at Donald tomorrow as the networks have given in to his demand for prime-time access to helpless television audiences: > [@](#): > > … Trump announced his plan for the 9 p.m. ET Tuesday address via Twitter. In his tweet, he characterized the situation on the border as a “national security crisis,” a description that even some people in his own party reject. > In response, a broadcast network executive said “time has been requested for 9 p.m. Networks are deliberating.” > The broadcasters have been known to resist presidential requests for air time for a variety of reasons, including the perceived urgency of the subject and the popularity of the shows that would be interrupted. > With Trump, there were other factors to consider, including his record of deception and his tendency to ramble off script in long speeches. > > … There is precedent for broadcast networks declining to air a presidential speech. > > … Trump’s Monday request for networks to air his speech touched on a number of debates that have been raging in journalism since his ascension to the Oval Office. Among them: Should his fact-free speeches be aired live? What kind of fact-checking methods should networks employ? … [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/media/networks-trump-border-security-speech/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/media/networks-trump-border-security-speech/index.html) Odds are that they’ll treat it the same way they’ve treated the addresses-to-the-nation made in years past by respectable Presidents. Unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5597 "2019-01-08T02:01:30Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Many will be pissed off at Donald tomorrow as the networks have given in to his demand for prime-time access to helpless television audiences: > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/media/networks-trump-border-security-speech/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/media/networks-trump-border-security-speech/index.html) > > Odds are that they’ll treat it the same way they’ve treated the addresses-to-the-nation made in years past by respectable Presidents. Unfortunately. Hell, FOX ought to be the only one to run it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5598 "2019-01-08T02:20:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Hell, FOX ought to be the only one to run it. Oh, I don’t know. I could use a tragic comedy right about now. Trump is sure to deliver. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5599 "2019-01-08T02:52:40Z")
[It was refreshing to see Sarah Sanders get fact checked immediately by a Fox news host of all people.](https://people.com/politics/fox-news-chris-wallace-fact-checks-sarah-sanders-interview/) I think, if any of the networks give Trump time, they should give Pelosi time too. At the very least I expect fact checking after his speech. That’ll keep the networks busy for a while. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5600 "2019-01-08T03:08:53Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > [It was refreshing to see Sarah Sanders get fact checked immediately by a Fox news host of all people.](https://people.com/politics/fox-news-chris-wallace-fact-checks-sarah-sanders-interview/) > > I think, if any of the networks give Trump time, they should give Pelosi time too. At the very least I expect fact checking after his speech. That’ll keep the networks busy for a while. As I said elsewhere, if Nancy Pelosi says he’s lying, it can be labeled partisan fake news. The Dems should have time to rebut as Dems, but only after the networks have presented their own fact-checking (as you suggest). Or, if not the networks, then Politico or some other non-partisan entity. I like the idea of a 20-min delay and fact checking in real time. With pop-ups. Easy to prepare, 'cause everyone knows what he’s going to say. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5601 "2019-01-08T03:26:21Z")
Sadly, if the mainstream media or fact checking websites contradict Trump, then they’re labeled as fake news and said to have a liberal bias. I had a Trump supporter tell me that Snopes couldn’t be trusted because it’s liberal. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5602 "2019-01-08T04:36:38Z")
It’s standard procedure for the opposition party to be given air time following a presidential address. Every State of the Union has a rebuttal speech. So after Trump blathers tomorrow about “emergencies” the rebuttal writes itself. Just get any Democrat to present the same kind of fact-checking that is given in the media every time Trump opens his mouth, and the job is done. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5603 "2019-01-08T07:44:32Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > [It was refreshing to see Sarah Sanders get fact checked immediately by a Fox news host of all people.](https://people.com/politics/fox-news-chris-wallace-fact-checks-sarah-sanders-interview/) > > I think, if any of the networks give Trump time, they should give Pelosi time too. At the very least I expect fact checking after his speech. That’ll keep the networks busy for a while. What pissed me off the most about that interview was when she said Trump doesn’t want the 800,000 people to be hurt but he never wants to have to call a widow like the one in California. And said that should never happen here when we have a way to prevent it. Then proceeded to talk about how we value life in the U.S. and that’s what makes us special. Really, really? Children being killed in their schools when we have ways we could prevent it doesn’t sound like we value life that much. I’d like to see her get so upset over hundreds of those lives lost. But that will never happen. When Americans kill Americans it’s just the price of freedom. Sorry for the gun debate derail, but damn, priorities in this country are so fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5604 "2019-01-08T08:08:55Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Many will be pissed off at Donald tomorrow as the networks have given in to his demand for prime-time access to helpless television audiences: > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/media/networks-trump-border-security-speech/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/media/networks-trump-border-security-speech/index.html) > > Odds are that they’ll treat it the same way they’ve treated the addresses-to-the-nation made in years past by respectable Presidents. Unfortunately. Ha, as if. > **[Networks giving Trump free airtime on Tuesday refused to air Obama’s 2014...](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/7/18172419/trump-immigration-speech-networks-obama)** > > Trump’s address is supposed to be about the government shutdown he initiated. Obama held a 2014 policy speech on immigration. The media snubbed him. “The question of whether, or how, to treat Trump differently from other presidents in light of his relentless dishonesty is an interesting one. But it’s noteworthy that just a few years ago, the networks were comfortable refusing to air a primetime Barack Obama speech about immigration on the grounds that the topic was “overtly political.”” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/5605 "2019-01-08T11:51:21Z")
I don’t get cable so I can’t get CNN the usual way, but one of the snippets that was posted to YouTube yesterday had the talking heads debating whether the networks would carry Donny Two-scoops’ address or not. One of them pointed out most of the OTA networks have streaming services that they could put the speech on without interfering with their main revenue source. Of course, finding one of those services might be beyond the capability of your typical MAGAt so Fox will be obliged to displace _Lethal Weapon_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=279) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=281)