# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/561 "2017-02-27T20:44:35Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> IMHO it is not a coincidence that the threat of going after marijuana in those states is because they did legalize it.

I see it as more a political calculation. Going after legal pot would piss off the citizens of California, Oregon, Washington and Colorado. Are they likely to support Trump anyway? No? Fuck 'em.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/562 "2017-02-27T22:16:18Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Now, the hundreds of policy wonks in the Clinton and Obama administrations who actually studied the issue: they might have had a clue as to the complexity of the issue; but Donald probably didn’t include them.

I heard something that this is part of the problem that the GOP is facing right now. They wnated to keep the status quo (which they understood well enough) and weren’t trying to build a system, so they really didn’t need to know details of the system they wanted to block nor issues around implementing a new system. They’re now trying to get up to speed very quickly on some of the nuances of trying to change healthcare in a very, very short time.

Of course, I’m willing to bet that most of the Republicans in the House and Senate did know that it was going to be complicated.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/563 "2017-02-28T00:53:44Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Sure, nobody knew; at least, none of those in mindless opposition, who voted to repeal it 40 times and never gave a thought to how to fix or replace it. Yup, nobody. Sooo complicated.

[More than 60 times](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obamacare-idUSKBN14X1SK). They were enthusiastic, if brainless.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/564 "2017-02-28T01:05:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Donald Trump: “[Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated,](http://www.sfgate.com/news/medical/article/Trump-calls-for-replacement-of-Obamacare-10962598.php)”

For him, it’s never been complicated - he and his family have Dr What’s-His-Face on retainer, he sees them, they write a check, easy-peasy. He’s never had to navigate the maze of an HMO, or go to an ER and hope the bill will eventually be covered and not denied, or any of the other things that normal folks experience when they need healthcare. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/565 "2017-02-28T01:07:13Z")

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> [@China\_Guy](#):
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> That one is pretty rich. I sure hope the Democrats successfully land the message that the Republicans own this lock, stock and barrel. The President and both houses of Congress have run on this for 8 years, and they need to get it right or die on this hill.

Yes they do, and any Dem that works WITH them will be used as a patsy. To take any part in this would be monumentally stupid. Make the Republican party OWN this.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/566 "2017-02-28T01:12:02Z")

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> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#):
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> For him, it’s never been complicated - he and his family have Dr What’s-His-Face on retainer, he sees them, they write a check, easy-peasy. He’s never had to navigate the maze of an HMO, or go to an ER and hope the bill will eventually be covered and not denied, or any of the other things that normal folks experience when they need healthcare. :rolleyes:

There is this, based o how he has actually treated family, he seems to view medical care - or rather the withholding of it - as a weapon.

> **[How Donald Trump cut off medical treatment to his nephew's sick baby](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382756/Donald-Trump-cut-medical-treatment-nephew-s-sick-baby.html)**
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> Doanld Trump's older brother Freddy died an alcoholic in 1981. When the family patriarch, Fred Sr. died in 1999, Freddy's children were cut out of his will.

Donald Trump has admitted cutting off medical treatment to his nephew’s sick baby after he allegedly had his alcoholic brother’s children cut out of his father’s will.

In an interview with the New York Times, Trump said he retaliated because he was ‘angry because they sued’.

His brother Freddy, a pilot, had died an alcoholic in 1981, aged 43.

He had two children – named after his parents Fred and Mary – with a stewardess he married at age 23 called Linda Clapp. The couple later divorced.

When the family patriarch Fred Sr., died in 1999, Freddy’s son, Fred III, spoke at the funeral. Later that night, his wife went into labor but the baby had cerebral palsy.

The Trump family promised to pay the medical bills.

But when Fred Sr.’s will was read, it revealed that the majority of his inheritance would be split between his children – except Freddy Trump Jr.

Freddy’s children sued and alleged that Donald - who helped draft the will - and his surviving siblings had influenced Fred Sr., who had suffered from dementia.

They also said an earlier version of the will had said they would receive a share of their grandfather’s fortune – believed to have been more than $20million.

So the real estate mogul, the frontrunner for the GOP’s presidential nomination, got his revenge by withdrawing the medical care for his nephew’s sick child.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/567 "2017-02-28T01:13:49Z")

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> **[Trump: ‘Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated’](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-nobody-knew-that-health-care-could-be-so-complicated-235436)**
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> Trump has repeatedly promised to quickly repeal and replace Obamacare, the healthcare law formally known as the Affordable Care Act.

“Let it be a disaster, because we can blame that on the Dems that are in our room – and we can blame that on the Democrats and President Obama,” - Trump, at the National Governors Association

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/568 "2017-02-28T01:45:07Z")

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A whole town is pissed at Trump for doing what they elected him to do.  
[Pro-Trump town riled up after immigration officials arrest popular restaurant manager](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/27/pro-trump-town-riled-up-after-immigration-officials-arrest-popular-restaurant-manager.html)

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> A southern Illinois community that solidly backed President Donald Trump has rallied behind a Mexican restaurant manager who doesn’t have legal permission to live in the U.S. and has been detained by immigration officials.
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> Letters of support for Juan Carlos Hernandez Pacheco have poured in from West Frankfort’s mayor, police chief, high school athletic director and the county prosecutor. They describe Hernandez as a role model and praise his robust civil involvement, including funding school scholarships, benefit dinners for families in need and hosting a law enforcement appreciation event.
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> Though the community largely backed Trump — who has made an aggressive stance on immigration central to his agenda and has promised to deport millions of immigrants who have no permission to live here — many residents of West Frankfort said Hernandez’ case has complicated their views on immigration policy.
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> “I think people need to do things the right way, follow the rules and obey the laws, and I firmly believe in that,” Lori Barron, the owner of a beauty salon, told The New York Times. “But in the case of Carlos, I think he may have done more for the people here than this place has ever given him. I think it’s absolutely terrible that he could be taken away.”

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/569 "2017-02-28T02:08:18Z")

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Wow. Why the f\*\*k did they VOTE for him, then?

My eyes hurt from all the rolling.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/570 "2017-02-28T02:46:05Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Wow. Why the f\*\*k did they VOTE for him, then?

[list=a][li]He’s not Black.[/li][li]He’s not Muslim.[/li][li]He’s not female.[/list][/li]  
Of course none of that has a blame thing to do with one’s qualifications and ability to actually be president.

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> My eyes hurt from all the rolling.

Word of advice: I’ve found that tears prevent the pain from rolling eyes.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/571 "2017-02-28T03:55:48Z")

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A prediction for the title of a future political history book or Michael Moore documentary film: _Sad! The Presidency of Donald J. Trump_.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/572 "2017-02-28T04:45:15Z")

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Nobody who lived through it would want to read or watch it.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/573 "2017-02-28T04:56:32Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Nobody who lived through it would want to read or watch it.

Sad!

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/574 "2017-02-28T05:55:58Z")

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Trump went on Fox and Friends and stated that he believes that Obama is behind the leaks in Trump’s administration:

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> “No, I think that President Obama is behind it because his people are certainly behind it. And some of the leaks possibly come from that group, which are really serious because they are very bad in terms of national security. But I also understand that is politics. In terms of him being behind things, that’s politics. And it will probably continue.”

[CNN article](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-leaks/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/575 "2017-02-28T19:15:53Z")

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[Trump blames the military for the loss of the Navy Seal in the Yemen raid.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ryan-owens-seal-raid_us_58b58852e4b0780bac2d58c6?)

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/576 "2017-02-28T19:25:10Z")

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“my generals are the most respected that we’ve had in many decades” - what the fuck is that? Has an entirely new class of generals been promoted in the past 40-or-so days? Or are these the same military leaders that have been in place for at least the past few months or so?  
Also - is there wild fluctuation in the level of respect for “generals” over the decades?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/577 "2017-02-28T19:36:14Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Trump blames the military for the loss of the Navy Seal in the Yemen raid.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ryan-owens-seal-raid_us_58b58852e4b0780bac2d58c6?)

“The buck stops elsewhere.”

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**Author:** ![Philliam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/philliam/32/3011_2.png) [@Philliam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philliam)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/578 "2017-02-28T19:59:01Z")

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…by the realization that he had not yet been sucked into the swirling vortex of a Hell-mouth. Other than that, I got nothin’.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/579 "2017-02-28T20:04:40Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> “The buck stops elsewhere.”

During the 1987 Iran-Contra hearings, someone handwrote a sign and posted it in the Senate hearing room: “The buck doesn’t even slow down here.”

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**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/580 "2017-03-01T01:43:31Z")

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Bones isn’t on tonight b/c of Trump being on TV !

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