# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6168 "2019-05-08T04:07:15Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It absolutely is.
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> It’s the one reaction to Trump that his fans simply cannot spin. They are helpless before it.
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> And it has the bonus effect of lessening their support for him: the one thing toadies can’t tolerate is a weak, butt-of-jokes bully. That’s a _failed_ bully.

When I heard about the NYT article this evening, my first thought was, “At last, the house of cards well and truly starts to fall. Keep sticking your undersized fingers in the dike, Donald. At some point you’re going to run out of fingers.”

But really, I don’t know. Remember during the debates, when Trump said that not paying taxes made him “smart”, and that got a big laugh and applause? I’m predicting right here, right now, that that’s how his idiot followers are going to see this story.

In a way, I almost agree. It seems like there is some sort of weird genius in managing to claim losses averaging \>$100 million a year for a freaking decade, and yet a) still find suckers willing to invest in such a clearly incompetent businessman; and b) manage to somehow avoid the wrath of the IRS during all that time. According to the reporting I’ve heard, for one (unspecified) tax year, Trump by himself was responsible for something like 1% of all the losses claimed for the entire country! How the hell did that manage to skate through the audit process?

With all that said, the next couple days of Trumpian Tweetstorms should be something truly magical to behold. Got loads of popcorn on hand; let her rip, baby.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6169 "2019-05-08T15:02:28Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> You really have to be some kinda special to be able to bleed money while operating a fricking _casino_.

And have, what, \*four \*of them go bankrupt?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6170 "2019-05-08T15:38:53Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> You really have to be some kinda special to be able to bleed money while operating a fricking _casino_.

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he got it backwards and actually lost money while money laundering.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6171 "2019-05-08T16:02:54Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> You really have to be some kinda special to be able to bleed money while operating a fricking _casino_.

Related story from 2016:

[How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html)

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> But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well. He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.
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> …
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> Mr. Trump assembled his casino empire by borrowing money at such high interest rates — after telling regulators he would not — that the businesses had almost no chance to succeed.
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> His casino companies made four trips to bankruptcy court, each time persuading bondholders to accept less money rather than be wiped out. But the companies repeatedly added more expensive debt and returned to the court for protection from lenders.
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> After narrowly escaping financial ruin in the early 1990s by delaying payments on his debts, Mr. Trump avoided a second potential crisis by taking his casinos public and shifting the risk to stockholders.
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> And he never was able to draw in enough gamblers to support all of the borrowing. During a decade when other casinos here thrived, Mr. Trump’s lagged, posting huge losses year after year. Stock and bondholders lost more than $1.5 billion.
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> All the while, Mr. Trump received copious amounts for himself, with the help of a compliant board. In one instance, The Times found, Mr. Trump pulled more than $1 million from his failing public company, describing the transaction in securities filings in ways that may have been illegal, according to legal experts.

Those are just some highlights from the first few paragraphs of the article.

“The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen.”

Substitute “voters” for “investors” and we get what’s happening today.

And even with scamming millions, Trump still piled up incredible yearly losses.

I remember one scam was Trump’s father bought millions in casino chips and then never cashed them in-- an interest-free and illegal loan.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6172 "2019-05-09T16:34:50Z")

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Further proof we got conned. Another ghost writer talks about how [Trump spent more time looking at fabric swatches](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html) because he didn’t know how to run a business.

He faked his own credentials and got banks interested in loaning him money. He just cons, abrogates, then ties up the courts in logjams. He never stays around to witness the trainwrecks. That’s what winners do.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6173 "2019-05-09T17:08:06Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Related story from 2016:
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> [How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html)

In dirty Russian money.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6174 "2019-05-10T13:53:31Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Further proof we got conned. Another ghost writer talks about how [Trump spent more time looking at fabric swatches](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-the-billiondollar-loser-his-ghostwriter-recalls-the-king-midas-years-090000640.html) because he didn’t know how to run a business.
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> He faked his own credentials and got banks interested in loaning him money. He just cons, abrogates, then ties up the courts in logjams. He never stays around to witness the trainwrecks. That’s what winners do.

> [@Charles Leerhson](#):
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> He’d talk about the Yankees, show me pictures of Marla Maples (whom he was then romancing while still married to Ivana) and tell me obviously made-up stories, such as how he had just the other day seen a beautiful, completely naked woman on the street. “Put that in the book!” he’d say, and I’d pretend to write it down.

Too bad he didn’t include it in the book. Maybe then enough fewer people would have voted for him to make the EC work right.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6175 "2019-05-11T22:52:54Z")

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I sold a copy of this book today. I’m happy about the sale, but not so happy about the fact that the “spectacular fall” wasn’t permanent.

> **[Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump-His Cunning Rise and...](https://www.amazon.com/Trumped-Inside-Trump-His-Cunning-Spectacular/dp/067173735X)**
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> Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump-His Cunning Rise and Spectacular Fall \[O'Donnell, John R., Rutherford, James\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Trumped!: The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump-His Cunning...

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6176 "2019-05-13T12:25:05Z")

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[Cheeto credits himself for recent Red Sox wins](https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/05/13/boston-red-sox-president-donald-trump-tweet-winning-streak/)

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> “Has anyone noticed that all the Boston @RedSox have done is WIN since coming to the White House! Others also have done very well. The White House visit is becoming the opposite of being on the cover of Sports Illustrated! By the way, the Boston players were GREAT guys!”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6177 "2019-05-13T12:30:36Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> [Cheeto credits himself for recent Red Sox wins](https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/05/13/boston-red-sox-president-donald-trump-tweet-winning-streak/)

:smack:

“Has anyone noticed how the SUN comes up EVERY MORNING since your FAVORITE PRESIDENT became PRESIDENT! And how gravity keeps things sitting right on the ground! Crooked Hillary couldn’t have done that! WINNING!”\*

\*This is not a real tweet from The Donald. Just in case anyone was wondering.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6178 "2019-05-13T13:17:54Z")

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It is also amazing how American football teams have won the Superbowl every year Trump has been in office.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6179 "2019-05-13T13:36:30Z")

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> [@Cheetolini](#):
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> By the way, the Boston players were GREAT guys!

“Well, the white ones who showed up, anyway…”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6180 "2019-05-13T15:31:09Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> “Well, the white ones who showed up, anyway…”

Those are the only ones who counted anyway.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6181 "2019-05-13T15:47:00Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> [Cheeto credits himself for recent Red Sox wins](https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/05/13/boston-red-sox-president-donald-trump-tweet-winning-streak/)

You mean the World Cup Series Champions Red Socks?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6182 "2019-05-13T16:01:58Z")

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The ones who chose not to attend- are they performing well, too? Since not visiting the White House?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6183 "2019-05-13T16:41:55Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> The ones who chose not to attend- are they performing well, too? Since not visiting the White House?

Warriors are doing just fine, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6184 "2019-05-13T19:25:31Z")

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[Trump spreads fake news (no surprise amirite):](https://apnews.com/8a392267300e419a8a3d5bcc9efd90ad)

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> Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib told a Yahoo News podcast that she gets “a calming feeling” when she thinks of “the tragedy of the Holocaust” and how the suffering of her Palestinian ancestors helped in trying to create “a safe haven” for Jews in the new state of Israel.
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> The remark instantly ignited an online fight, with Republicans incorrectly describing Tlaib’s words as reflecting her feelings about the genocide itself that cost millions of lives, including those of 6 million Jews.
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> Trump spread the idea by tweeting on Monday that Tlaib has a “hatred” of Israel and Jews.

At certain times, I like to amuse myself by thinking what the world would be like if Hunter S. Thompson were 35-40 years old _today_ instead of back in the '70s. Imagine if he had had Trump as his foil instead of Nixon…

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6185 "2019-05-14T01:36:03Z")

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He claimed the Patriots but I don’t give a fuck about football, but now he’s tainted my beloved Sox. I’m sinking to a new low if even I, a multi-generational Sox fan, is now wishing the Yankees won. ☹

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6186 "2019-05-14T20:43:13Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> He claimed the Patriots but I don’t give a fuck about football, but now he’s tainted my beloved Sox. I’m sinking to a new low if even I, a multi-generational Sox fan, is now wishing the Yankees won. ☹

That would have been pretty hard, since the Sox played the Series against the Dodgers.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6187 "2019-05-14T20:52:28Z")

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SO is Individual 1 sending 120,000 US troops to the Middle East or not? He denies it, but several sources say it’s true.

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