# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 311
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6208 "2019-05-17T13:26:44Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Actually I can imagine him salivating at the prospect of looking presidential standing over the Ruins of the One world trade center whose destruction would bump trump tower up from 85th to 84th tallest building in New York. That actually contains a grain of truth as to Trump’s reaction judging by some comments he made that day: [On 9/11, Trump pointed out he now had the tallest building in Lower Manhattan. He didn’t.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/11/trump-pointed-out-that-he-now-had-tallest-building-lower-manhattan-he-didnt/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ac775cd503c4) _Trump’s odd boast on the day of the attacks wasn’t even accurate._ > [@](#): > > President Trump’s habit of exaggerating or misrepresenting the effects of New York City’s worst terrorist attack on him personally began the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2001. > > As our Timothy Bella reported Tuesday, Trump was asked by New Jersey station WWOR to weigh in on the import of the attacks on the World Trade Center only a few hours after planes struck its twin towers. One of the station’s reporters asked Trump whether a building he owned — 40 Wall Street, a few blocks from the site of the attacks — had suffered any damage. > > “40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan,” Trump replied, “and it was actually, before the World Trade Center, was the tallest — and then, when they built the World Trade Center, it became known as the second tallest. And now it’s the tallest.” > > But it wasn’t. > > … > > Back to the point at hand, though. The question is about the overlap of the two preceding charts. Which buildings are both in Lower Manhattan and existed on the day of the attacks? Only four: The Trump Building, 70 Pine, 28 Liberty and the Woolworth Building, at one time the tallest building in the world. > > Of those four buildings, Trump’s ranked second in height, by 25 feet, to a building one block to the east. So, even on 9/11, Trump needs to brag about his own building and still lie about it. A normal (hah!) person would have said it’s undamaged and there were no casualties and turned back to what happened at the WTC. Some Trump supporters claim that Trump was concerned that his building would be a new terrorist target. Out of fact-checking curiosity, I listened to the interview, and if Trump mentioned that I missed it and it was what I was listening for. Another bullshit defense of Trump. I know people who asked me what was wrong with Trump saying “get some pussy” on the Hollywood Access tape. Besides that itself just being offensive, I said that’s not what Trump actually said. He bragged about committing sexual assault. The MAGAsses hadn’t even listened to the tape to hear was Trump did say before defending it! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6209 "2019-05-17T22:20:28Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > …Some Trump supporters claim that Trump was concerned that his building would be a new terrorist target. Out of fact-checking curiosity, I listened to the interview, and if Trump mentioned that I missed it and it was what I was listening for. Another bullshit defense of Trump. > > I know people who asked me what was wrong with Trump saying “get some pussy” on the Hollywood Access tape. Besides that itself just being offensive, I said that’s not what Trump actually said. He bragged about committing sexual assault. The MAGAsses hadn’t even listened to the tape to hear was Trump did say before defending it! They may have listened, but their brains instantly changed what they’d heard into something else—something they could defend. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6210 "2019-05-17T22:29:44Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yeah, I know. But sometimes you have to say: Provide me with this information, and I won’t ask any more questions. It depends what the prize is. Getting Bin Laden? Ok, thanks, no more questions then. (Even though there are TONS more questions.) There’s an argument for letting some crimes go in order to get information about bigger crimes. But bin Laden was killed in 2011 and Sater was working for Trump in 2016. There’s a vast gap between not asking questions and hiring a guy with terrorist connections to act as your representative in dealing with foreign governments. Can you imagine what conservatives would say if a Democrat had hired somebody with past associations with Osama bin Laden? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6211 "2019-05-17T22:55:12Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > … > There’s a vast gap between not asking questions and hiring a guy with terrorist connections to act as your representative in dealing with foreign governments. > … I certainly won’t argue with that. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6212 "2019-05-17T23:25:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Can you imagine what conservatives would say if a Democrat had hired somebody with past associations with Osama bin Laden? Don’t yanno? Obama and Hillary founded ISIS, which is even worse: [3-year-old article] [Trump to Supporters: Obama Is ‘Founder of ISIS’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-to-supporters-obama-is-founder-of-isis) > [@](#): > > Speaking to a crowd in Fort Lauderdale on Wednesday night, Republican nominee Donald Trump accused President Barack Obama of founding the Islamic State terror group. “He is the founder of ISIS,” Trump said, repeating, “He’s the founder of ISIS, OK?.. He’s the founder! He founded ISIS.” Taking it a step further, Trump went on to target his opponent in the presidential race. “And I would say, the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton,” he said. And you know there is a decent percentage of his supporters who believe shit like this. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6213 "2019-05-18T04:02:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > :smack: > > “Has anyone noticed how the SUN comes up EVERY MORNING since your FAVORITE PRESIDENT became PRESIDENT! And how gravity keeps things sitting right on the ground! Crooked Hillary couldn’t have done that! WINNING!”\* > > \*This is not a real tweet from The Donald. Just in case anyone was wondering. It’s BIGGER and BRIGHTER since Chump came along. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6214 "2019-05-18T04:49:42Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > It’s BIGGER and BRIGHTER since Chump came along. AHHHHHHH!!! WE’RE FALLING INTO THE SUN! WE’RE ALL DOOMED! TRUMP’S KILLED US ALL! o ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6215 "2019-05-18T14:57:17Z")
Relax. Solar power has drained so much energy from the Sun, its not even very hot any more. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6216 "2019-05-18T15:55:54Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Don’t yanno? Obama and Hillary founded ISIS, which is even worse: > > [3-year-old article] > > [Trump to Supporters: Obama Is ‘Founder of ISIS’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-to-supporters-obama-is-founder-of-isis) > And you know there is a decent percentage of his supporters who believe shit like this. Nobody like ME is EVER gonna accuse any “people” like those of having any working BRAINS. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6217 "2019-05-18T16:54:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Relax. Solar power has drained so much energy from the Sun, its not even very hot any more. But how loud is solar power? I’m worried about getting cancer. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6218 "2019-05-18T17:10:57Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > Nobody like ME is EVER gonna accuse any “people” like those of having any working BRAINS. Those are who Hillary, unfortunately, labeled out loud as the “deplorable”. Which turned off a lot of voters who might have been on the fence about her. Simplistically, there might be three general categories of Trump voters in 2016: Conservatives, who were voting Republican no matter what–tax cuts, deregulation, and judges. Hey, that’s their prerogative. Unsure voters who either didn’t like Hillary or bought into the Trump myth of a businessman who could drain the swamp and fix DC. And, the deplorables, who believe Trump’s MAGA bullshit. Muslims and Mexicans (or non-white) are destroying the country, and whites are being fucked over by libruls and wanted a guy to fuck over the “others”, who are the cause of the problems in their own unsatisfying lives. Again, this is simplistic. Trump seems unique in that he only cares and pamders to the third group. Most presidents would reach out to non-supporters. Trump seems only to care about riling up his base and dividing the country. His stick is playing the “I’m a victim of the libruls, just like you!” card and his base eats it up. No critical thinking needed. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6219 "2019-05-18T19:55:27Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Those are who Hillary, unfortunately, labeled out loud as the “deplorable”. Which turned off a lot of voters who might have been on the fence about her. Citation needed. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6220 "2019-05-18T21:31:28Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > Nobody like ME is EVER gonna accuse any “people” like those of having any working BRAINS. > [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Citation needed. Cite in the Pit? But I’m sure I can find something. I usually can. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6221 "2019-05-18T21:34:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But how loud is solar power? I’m worried about getting cancer. Solar power? Bird graveyard. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6222 "2019-05-18T21:58:00Z")
He filmed a political video on board Air Force one, criticizing Bill de Blasio running for 2020 and making claims about de Blasio’s policies. The presidential seal was clearly visible in the background. It’s not supposed to be used for political purposes, only official presidential business since otherwise it’s being insinuated that this message is officially from the federal government. Technically he is covered by law that would require him to pay taxpayers back for using AF1 for political business also. But apparently there’s no mechanism to actually stop him from doing these things or at least, _at least_, charge him a large fee after the fact. I am so tired of all this I’m at my wit’s end. ETA: I listen to the “Can He Do That?” podcast, but really I don’t need to. The answer is ALWAYS, “Why, yes he can,” no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6223 "2019-05-18T23:42:23Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > He filmed a political video on board Air Force one, criticizing Bill de Blasio running for 2020 and making claims about de Blasio’s policies. The presidential seal was clearly visible in the background. It’s not supposed to be used for political purposes, only official presidential business since otherwise it’s being insinuated that this message is officially from the federal government. Technically he is covered by law that would require him to pay taxpayers back for using AF1 for political business also. But apparently there’s no mechanism to actually stop him from doing these things or at least, _at least_, charge him a large fee after the fact. > > I am so tired of all this I’m at my wit’s end. > > ETA: I listen to the “Can He Do That?” podcast, but really I don’t need to. The answer is ALWAYS, “Why, yes he can,” no matter what. There’s no one to stop him. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6224 "2019-05-19T01:34:37Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > He filmed a political video on board Air Force one, criticizing Bill de Blasio running for 2020 and making claims about de Blasio’s policies. The presidential seal was clearly visible in the background. It’s not supposed to be used for political purposes, only official presidential business since otherwise it’s being insinuated that this message is officially from the federal government. Technically he is covered by law that would require him to pay taxpayers back for using AF1 for political business also. But apparently there’s no mechanism to actually stop him from doing these things or at least, _at least_, charge him a large fee after the fact. Didn’t Republicans lose their shit over Al Gore possibly using a White House phone for fundraising? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6225 "2019-05-19T01:52:00Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Didn’t Republicans lose their shit over Al Gore possibly using a White House phone for fundraising? [Yep](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1997-03-05-9703040247-story.html). But that was a different time, you know. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6226 "2019-05-19T01:56:23Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [Yep](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1997-03-05-9703040247-story.html). > > But that was a different time, you know. Plus IOKIARDI. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6227 "2019-05-19T04:22:37Z")
I think Chump is trying to get himself impeached. He knows the Senate Republicans will scotch that, then he can use it in his reelection campaign. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=310) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=312)