# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 317
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6328 "2019-06-04T11:20:25Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [Here’s a photo of Trump and Edinburgh with their respective spouses.](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/kGvQ6udwc6pq_OMytFYbfg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/queen-trump-1-ap-er-190603_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg) (Trump looks a little grim; is that because Edinburgh has decorations on his jacket but Trump doesn’t?) > > My query is about _white tie dress_. I thought of posting in GQ or IMHO, but will first see if I can get an answer here. > > Disclaimer: I know approximately zero about White Tie beyond my assumption that it involves wearing a tie that’s white in color. > > However, does Trump look like a silly goose in that costume? Did his tailor pay a trick on him? Was he too cheap to go to a tailor, and just borrowed shirt and jacket from two different aides? Aides who were very different in size? > > I Googled for white tie images. A minority had a small amount of white shirt exposed at the bottom, but none like Trump. Is this a new fashion? Edinburgh? Do you mean Prince Charles? (Duke of Edinburgh is retired from official duties, and therefore absent). I think I feel sorry for Trump’s tailor - clearly Trump has pretty firm ideas of how he thinks suits should be. All wrong, obviously. Oh, and in the world of white tie, there is now new fashion. The whole get up is strictly victorian. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6329 "2019-06-04T11:43:49Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Nothing quite like insulting a member of the Royal Family and the mayor of your host’s biggest city almost as you step off Air Force One: [https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-protocol-uk-visit/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-protocol-uk-visit/index.html) The Meghan thing was just stupid but Trump and Khan have bene sniping at each other ever since Khan was elected. IIRC Trump fired the first shot during one of his anti-Muslim tirades but I can’t be bothered to look it up. Also, I find the spat petty but still amusing because Khan is so much better at it than Trump. Remember the Trump baby blimp? Good stuff. As for clothing, Trump’s tie-and-tails look was fine given the way he wears everything. It’s more his “Old Biff from BTTF2” golfing look that has horrified me recently. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6330 "2019-06-04T12:00:29Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [Here’s a photo of Trump and Edinburgh with their respective spouses.](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/kGvQ6udwc6pq_OMytFYbfg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/queen-trump-1-ap-er-190603_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg) (Trump looks a little grim; is that because Edinburgh has decorations on his jacket but Trump doesn’t?) > > My query is about _white tie dress_. I thought of posting in GQ or IMHO, but will first see if I can get an answer here. > > Disclaimer: I know approximately zero about White Tie beyond my assumption that it involves wearing a tie that’s white in color. > > However, does Trump look like a silly goose in that costume? Did his tailor pay a trick on him? Was he too cheap to go to a tailor, and just borrowed shirt and jacket from two different aides? Aides who were very different in size? > > I Googled for white tie images. A minority had a small amount of white shirt exposed at the bottom, but none like Trump. Is this a new fashion? Yeah, he looked absolutely ridiculous. (And, as pointed out, that’s Prince Charles, not the Duke of Edinbrugh, who has retired from public events due to age and infirmity.) Definitely shouldn’t have that much white showing. I think the tailor stuck it to him big-time. He’ll probably be fired. Or killed, following Kim’s example. Contrast that with Obama, [looking impeccable](https://gq-images.condecdn.net/image/312nn2G2Q1a/crop/1020/f/white-tie-01-gq-13nov18_getty_b.jpg) on the right (and on the left, too). ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6331 "2019-06-04T12:16:51Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > …However, does Trump look like a silly goose in that costume?.. Whenever he tries to appear formal he stands with his hands pointed down in a way that looks quite forced. It reminds me of Louis C.K.'s routine about being self conscious when stoned. “Stand like this. What are you doing with your hands? No one does that.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6332 "2019-06-04T12:51:46Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Whenever he tries to appear formal he stands with his hands pointed down in a way that looks quite forced. It reminds me of Louis C.K.'s routine about being self conscious when stoned. “Stand like this. What are you doing with your hands? No one does that.” He really does look like a deer caught in the headlights of a car. ---
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6333 "2019-06-04T13:01:36Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [Here’s a photo of Trump and Edinburgh with their respective spouses.](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/kGvQ6udwc6pq_OMytFYbfg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/queen-trump-1-ap-er-190603_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg) (Trump looks a little grim; is that because Edinburgh has decorations on his jacket but Trump doesn’t?) > > My query is about _white tie dress_. I thought of posting in GQ or IMHO, but will first see if I can get an answer here. > > Disclaimer: I know approximately zero about White Tie beyond my assumption that it involves wearing a tie that’s white in color. > > However, does Trump look like a silly goose in that costume? Did his tailor pay a trick on him? Was he too cheap to go to a tailor, and just borrowed shirt and jacket from two different aides? Aides who were very different in size? > > I Googled for white tie images. A minority had a small amount of white shirt exposed at the bottom, but none like Trump. Is this a new fashion? For the waistcoat to protrude below the jacket is not in itself wrong. [Both the Lord Chamberlain and the Lord Steward, who walked in the procession immediately in front of the Queen and Trump, showed how that style is supposed to look](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_N8iNJdP3I). Whereas Trump just looked clueless. The really stupid thing is that white tie is intended to flatter tubbier guys, yet Trump’s outfit merely drew attention to his paunch. That said, there was not much wrong with the business suits he wore yesterday and today. Which only goes to show he can look just-about-OK if he makes an effort. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6334 "2019-06-04T13:51:44Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Whenever he tries to appear formal he stands with his hands pointed down in a way that looks quite forced. It reminds me of Louis C.K.'s routine about being self conscious when stoned. “Stand like this. What are you doing with your hands? No one does that.” Honestly, that is how one should stand when posing formally. Yes, it feels weird and looks a bit unnatural, but it looks much better than clasping one’s hands in front of one self, as President Obama does, or clasping one’s hands behind one’s back, as I tend to do. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6335 "2019-06-04T14:18:42Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > Edinburgh? Do you mean Prince Charles? (Duke of Edinburgh is retired from official duties, and therefore absent). Ouch! :smack: Prince Charles is starting to look old. (This disturbs me personally since I’m almost the same age.) ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6336 "2019-06-04T14:53:33Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I, for one, am not surprised: > > [Trump Companies Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama](https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-companies-accused-tax-evasion-panama) This report brought to mind a bit of news from 18 months ago. [Trump officials fight eviction from Panama hotel they manage](https://www.apnews.com/ce4dbdd4446c4862bb9c483425554c67) > [@AP](#): > > PANAMA CITY (AP) — One of President Donald Trump’s family businesses is battling an effort to physically evict its team of executives from a luxury hotel in Panama where they manage operations, and police have been called to keep the peace, The Associated Press has learned. Witnesses told the AP they saw Trump’s executives carrying files to a room for shredding. Nothing suspicious at all, move along. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6337 "2019-06-04T14:57:02Z")
> [@APB](#): > > For the waistcoat to protrude below the jacket is not in itself wrong. [Both the Lord Chamberlain and the Lord Steward, who walked in the procession immediately in front of the Queen and Trump, showed how that style is supposed to look](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_N8iNJdP3I). Whereas Trump just looked clueless. The really stupid thing is that white tie is intended to flatter tubbier guys, yet Trump’s outfit merely drew attention to his paunch. > > That said, there was not much wrong with the business suits he wore yesterday and today. Which only goes to show he can look just-about-OK if he makes an effort. Both of the Lords aren’t showing nearly as much waistcoat. It looks like iDJiT’s is longer rather than the jacket being too short. My theory is that he didn’t have his usual long tie, so the waistcoat had to do… whatever the tie is supposed to do. His pants aren’t too long so he must have remembered to pack his lifts so the queen wouldn’t look taller than him. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6338 "2019-06-04T15:07:09Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Ouch! :smack: Prince Charles is starting to look old. (This disturbs me personally since I’m almost the same age.) I’m ONE DAY older than Prince Charles (70, 71 in November), and I know I don’t look anywhere near as old as he does. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6339 "2019-06-04T15:12:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’m ONE DAY older than Prince Charles (70, 71 in November), and I know I don’t look anywhere near as old as he does. You must remember that he’s had a much harder life than most people. Since he was three, he has known that he’s just one heartbeat away from being the King of England. That responsibility would weigh heavily on anybody’s shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6340 "2019-06-04T16:01:02Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [Here’s a photo of Trump and Edinburgh with their respective spouses.](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/kGvQ6udwc6pq_OMytFYbfg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/gma/us.abcnews.gma.com/queen-trump-1-ap-er-190603_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg) (Trump looks a little grim; is that because Edinburgh has decorations on his jacket but Trump doesn’t?) I don’t think I’d ever realized how positively \*tiny \*Queenie is. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6341 "2019-06-04T16:25:13Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I, for one, am not surprised: > > [Trump Companies Accused of Tax Evasion in Panama](https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-companies-accused-tax-evasion-panama) Can’t we please have a reversal of the events of 1989 and have a crack Panamanian strike force come in and haul off our president to face charges in Panama. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6342 "2019-06-04T16:34:53Z")
This is not news or even terribly current, but in light of Trump’s trip to England I thought I’d share the previous Poet Laureate’s artistic tribute to the man: [Swearing In](https://blackcapsule.org/2019/02/25/swearing-in/) It is a thing of beauty, in its own way. And it rhymes! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6343 "2019-06-04T16:37:29Z")
No one does insults like the Brits. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6344 "2019-06-04T16:41:41Z")
The Onion: (Trump sees Trump baby balloon in London.) "LONDON—Racking his brain upon noticing the massive infant’s “uncanny resemblance” to himself, a visibly panicked President Trump tried to recall all his recent sexual liaisons after spotting an enormous baby balloon in a crowd of London protesters, sources confirmed Monday. “Oh God, this kid looks, what, maybe five or six months old—so how long ago are we talking?” said Trump, who reportedly struggled to put names with faces as he visualized all the women he had sex with during his 2018 trip to London and his golf course in Turnberry, Scotland. " > **[Panicking Trump Trying To Recall Recent Affairs He’s Had After Spotting Baby...](https://www.theonion.com/panicking-trump-trying-to-recall-recent-affairs-he-s-ha-1835208402)** > > LONDON—Racking his brain upon noticing the massive infant’s “uncanny resemblance” to himself, a visibly panicked President Trump tried to recall all his recent sexual liaisons after spotting an enormous baby balloon in a crowd of London protesters,... ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6345 "2019-06-05T04:19:02Z")
The Trumpspawn just might wanna be a royal family themselves: [Trump's children make play for royal treatment | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/trump-family-royal-family-status/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6346 "2019-06-05T04:30:40Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I don’t think I’d ever realized how positively \*tiny \*Queenie is. Well, she’s also gotten to the point where you can count her age by the curve on her back. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6347 "2019-06-05T04:34:47Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > The Trumpspawn just might wanna be a royal family themselves: [https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/trump-family-royal-family-status/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/trump-family-royal-family-status/index.html) The blonde on the right looks, uh… out of place… who is that… ah. “Woody Johnson’s wife”. OK, that fits then :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=316) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=318)