# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 329
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6568 "2019-06-29T20:46:25Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > “So there we are at the G20. We decide to to talk about bonds, and Trump, no kidding, says he thinks that Sean Connery was the best. No, I’m serious…” … Well, it would be the first time he was ever correct… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6569 "2019-06-29T20:57:26Z")
2nd time. I’d date Ivanka too. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6570 "2019-06-29T21:29:33Z")
Time for the quarterly check. Yep he is still breathing, so I am pissed off. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6571 "2019-06-30T02:26:17Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 thinks school busing is about a means of transporting kids to school. And he thinks “western style liberalism” means the kind of liberalism found on the West Coast. > JUNE 29, 2019 > [Trump, Dumb as Always, Thinks Busing is About Transportation](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-busing-853745/) And in his word salad response to the busing question, he said his administration us working on a plan, which it would unveil in four weeks. A plan for what, he did not say. I guess we can expect the federal government to take over student transportation. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6572 "2019-06-30T16:32:14Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Wouldn’t it be great to hear world leaders talk about every stupid statement and question from Trump? > > I know most leaders are too dignified for something like this, but imagine how entertaining it would be to hear one of them saying something like, “So there we are at the G20. We decide to to talk about bonds, and Trump, no kidding, says he thinks that Sean Connery was the best. No, I’m serious…” Someone would need to provide them with a curated list of representative samples. If they tried to cover his gems exhaustively, they’d never get any real work done. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6573 "2019-06-30T21:53:42Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > And in his word salad response to the busing question, he said his administration us working on a plan, which it would unveil **in four weeks.** A plan for what, he did not say. I guess we can expect the federal government to take over student transportation. Or something. Well, clearly _something_ unusual is afoot\*—Trump ALWAYS promises results in TWO weeks: > [@](#): > > Trump’s timeline? Always “two weeks” [https://www.axios.com/trumps-timeline-always-two-weeks-1513302785-b6370a4f-bb5e-434a-80ca-1249c7cf2baa.html](https://www.axios.com/trumps-timeline-always-two-weeks-1513302785-b6370a4f-bb5e-434a-80ca-1249c7cf2baa.html) The short article (a list of examples) dates from the end of 2017, but it would appear that the “two weeks” thing has held up through most of this month: > [@](#): > > Trump says he will delay deportation raids for two weeks [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump-democrats/trump-says-he-will-delay-deportation-raids-for-two-weeks-idUSKCN1TN0ON](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump-democrats/trump-says-he-will-delay-deportation-raids-for-two-weeks-idUSKCN1TN0ON) Now, all of a sudden, the fictional time period has doubled. What could this mean? Has Trump made unexpected progress in his arithmetic lessons—progress he’s anxious to show off? \*which perhaps will be the fate of the schoolchildren. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6574 "2019-06-30T23:55:10Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > And in his word salad response to the busing question, he said his administration us working on a plan, which it would unveil in four weeks. A plan for what, he did not say. I guess we can expect the federal government to take over student transportation. Or something. It’s always “working on it” or “I’ll show you the item” at some future date. And of course it’s always “the best you [del]have ever seen[/del] will ever see”. He’s a combination conman, _SNL_’s Middle-aged Man, and Wimpy from _Popeye_. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6575 "2019-07-01T00:30:51Z")
[Trump Took Fox News Tucker Carlson, Not John Bolton, To North Korea](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-took-tucker-carlson-not-bolton-north-korea-2) > [@](#): > > While speaking to his Fox colleagues, Carlson defended Trump’s friendliness with the brutal North Korean dictator. > > “[North Korea]’s a disgusting place, obviously. So there’s no defending it,” Carlson said. “On the other hand, you’ve got to be honest about what it means to lead a country. It means killing people.” To lead a country, you kill people? Damn, don’t give Trump any ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6576 "2019-07-01T03:54:24Z")
… Carlson just managed to make a ridiculous amount of politicians throughout history look like candidates for sainthood. Or maybe they were just stupid. Too stupid to realize they were doing their jobs wrong by trying to avoid causing deaths. And heck: many if not most of those for whom “killing people” was a routine part of the job had the bollocks to do (part of) their own killing. No bone spurs there. I think the reason I’m having difficulty breathing right now is just my asthma, but I’m sure the reason my head hurts all of a sudden is Tucker Carlson. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6577 "2019-07-01T04:08:45Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [Trump Took Fox News Tucker Carlson, Not John Bolton, To North Korea](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-took-tucker-carlson-not-bolton-north-korea-2) > > To lead a country, you kill people? Damn, don’t give Trump any ideas. It’s not like his policies are already getting people killed, right? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6578 "2019-07-01T18:39:10Z")
I mean, I understand his point as a standalone point. I have the same eye-rolling discussions with peaceniks who decry any and all forms of warfare, even the necessary kind that causes leaders to have blood on their hands. Mainly my frustrations in this regard comes when people say Obama was just as bad as Bush and Trump will be no different because he used drones. But Carlson is making a statement that have a useful application but applying it to people who [execute people with mortar rounds](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9630509/North-Korean-army-minister-executed-with-mortar-round.html) for kicks is dumb and therefore not surprising coming from him. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6579 "2019-07-01T19:51:51Z")
[ **Trump’s Lies Are Bad. What He Did in Osaka Was Worse.** _During the president’s weekend press conference, he didn’t simply deny the truth._](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/on-trumps-bullshit/593062/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29) TL;DR. The President doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about. And doesn’t care. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump’s penchant for out-and-out deception—lies, in common parlance, and as more and more observers are willing to label them—has meant that another of his tendencies has been eclipsed: the tendency to bluff blithely and obviously falsely. During his trip to Asia over the past few days, however, Trump has made that tendency unavoidable, offering blusteringly confident answers to questions on topics he clearly knows nothing about. > > The philosopher Harry Frankfurt offers an earthy, useful description of this mode of Trump speech in his [essay On Bulls](http://www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_bullshit.pdf)hit: > > ``` > He is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose. > > ``` > > Consider Trump’s press conference in Osaka, Japan, on Saturday. A reporter asked Trump …: “Where do you stand on that issue of federally mandated busing?” > … > > ``` > **Trump** : It relates to everything we’re doing. And you’ll be hearing about it in—over the next couple of months. > > ``` > > Two things are clear: First, Trump has no idea what he is talking about. Second, Trump will not have a plan for busing, whether in four weeks or in two months. It’s not that he didn’t watch the debate, and for a moment, the president seemed to come close to grasping the conflict over school integration (“In some cases, it’s been done with a hammer instead of velvet glove”), but for the most part, he betrays no grasp of the complicated issue of busing. If he did, he wouldn’t be promising a plan, because it’s almost impossible to imagine any federal plan that would be in keeping with this political ideology. > … > > Another similar moment occurred at the end of the press conference, when a reporter asked Trump about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s judgment that “Western-style liberalism” is obsolete. Putin was, of course, referring to the idea of republican governance developed in Europe and America. This is language that would be familiar to Trump’s former adviser Steve Bannon. Trump, however, apparently believed it referred to governments on the West Coast of the United States: > [Trump:] Well, again, he may feel that way. I mean, he sees what’s going on. And I guess, if you look at what’s happening in Los Angeles, where it’s so sad to look; and what’s happening in San Francisco and a couple of other cities which are run by an extraordinary group of liberal people—I don’t know what they’re thinking. > … > > Frankfurt explains why being able to label this behavior is more than idle taxonomy: > > ``` > Someone who lies and someone who tells the truth are playing on opposite sides, so to speak, in the same game. Each responds to the facts as he understands them, although the response of the one is guided by the authority of the truth, while the response of the other defies that authority and refuses to meet its demands. The bullshitter ignores these demands altogether. He does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are. > > ``` :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6580 "2019-07-02T01:16:58Z")
Can’t wait for this: [New Sherman Tanks? Trump Brags Parade Will Feature Them, Though They Were Discontinued in 1957](https://hillreporter.com/new-sherman-tanks-trump-brags-parade-will-feature-them-though-they-were-discontinued-in-1957-39663) > [@](#): > > According to the Washington Post’s Josh Dawsey, the President claimed, “And we’re gonna have some tanks stationed outside… So we have to put them in certain areas but we have the brand new Sherman tanks and we have the brand new Abram tanks.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6581 "2019-07-02T01:55:18Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Can’t wait for this: > > [New Sherman Tanks? Trump Brags Parade Will Feature Them, Though They Were Discontinued in 1957](https://hillreporter.com/new-sherman-tanks-trump-brags-parade-will-feature-them-though-they-were-discontinued-in-1957-39663) Talk about mistaken. He meant Abraham tanks. They’re mentioned in the Bible. “And Abraham gave tanks to the Lord.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6582 "2019-07-02T01:56:40Z")
Also, what the fuck is an “Abram” tank? CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6583 "2019-07-02T03:15:19Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Also, what the fuck is an “Abram” tank? > > CMC fnord! It’s the singular of _Abrams_. And when it’s pointed out to the moron-in-chief that Sherman tanks were used in World War II and are not in use today, he’s going to double down on his stupidity and insist that the designer of the M1 Abrams main battle tank was named Sherman and that’s what he meant, FAKE NEWS says he got it Wrong!! Odd thing, though, nobody’s edited the wiki entry for the Sherman tank to mention Trump’s comment. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6584 "2019-07-02T14:56:36Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Can’t wait for this: > > [New Sherman Tanks? Trump Brags Parade Will Feature Them, Though They Were Discontinued in 1957](https://hillreporter.com/new-sherman-tanks-trump-brags-parade-will-feature-them-though-they-were-discontinued-in-1957-39663) Aw, quit yer bitchin’. You’ve never bought something & then not used it…for 60+ years? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6585 "2019-07-02T15:05:30Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Aw, quit yer bitchin’. You’ve never bought something & then not used it…for 60+ years? :rolleyes: _Thinks about that long list of games on Steam, bought but as yet still unplayed…_ Well, almost. Getting there! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6586 "2019-07-02T15:40:14Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > _Thinks about that long list of games on Steam, bought but as yet still unplayed…_ > > Well, almost. Getting there! Yeah but you had no choice. They were on sale. If you don’t buy games you \*might \*play once in a blue moon when they’re on sale for pennies, the terrorists have won. (signed : the proud owner of 500+ Steam games, the majority of which I probably played once, in 1920, for 20 minutes) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6587 "2019-07-02T15:48:26Z")
True. How else does one save money if not by spending less? 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=328) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=330)