# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6588 "2019-07-02T16:31:38Z")

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So:

Pence cancelled a trip to NH, returning ASAP to the WH.

_at the same time…_

Putin cancelled his days events, is holding emergency meetings at the Kremlin,

_and_

Apparently, the EU Security Council has been called to an emergency meeting.

[https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1146092421584957440](https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1146092421584957440)

Wags are saying Putin is meeting about a Russian sub which caught on fire, killing 14 sailors. But the Pence and EU situations are still unknown.

This is all 99.99% probably nothing, but who the hell knows nowadays?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6589 "2019-07-02T17:10:46Z")

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LOL, did some research and the verified reporter who reported the “EU Security Council” thing was apparently fooled by a possible 4chan spoof. Went back to look, found the original tweet deleted, and this:

> <https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1146099333974175746>

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6590 "2019-07-02T17:43:49Z")

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Not to worry; US diplomacy is being bolstered by an utterly unqualified layperson: [Ivanka Trump: First daughter slammed for role as unofficial diplomat](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/01/ivanka-trump-first-daughter-slammed-role-unofficial-diplomat/1616324001/)

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6591 "2019-07-02T20:07:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not to worry; US diplomacy is being bolstered by an utterly unqualified layperson: [Ivanka Trump: First daughter slammed for role as unofficial diplomat](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/01/ivanka-trump-first-daughter-slammed-role-unofficial-diplomat/1616324001/)

As opposed to an utterly unqualified 46-1?

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6592 "2019-07-02T21:04:08Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not to worry; US diplomacy is being bolstered by an utterly unqualified layperson: [Ivanka Trump: First daughter slammed for role as unofficial diplomat](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/01/ivanka-trump-first-daughter-slammed-role-unofficial-diplomat/1616324001/)

That story describes her as sitting “alongside” her father and Shinzo Abe. The picture shows her _between_ them. Which means the same thing, I suppose, but…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6593 "2019-07-03T13:50:59Z")

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All the \*best \*tyrants have tanks in their parades, so…

> **[Tanks, military vehicles take over DC's streets before Trump's 4th of July...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/4th-july-donald-trump-military-parade-tanks-seen-washington-dc/1637384001/)**
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> Ahead of President Donald Trump's planned 4th of July festivities in Washington, military vehicles were spotted on the National Mall.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6594 "2019-07-03T15:11:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> All the \*best \*tyrants have tanks in their parades, so…
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> [4th of July Donald Trump military parade: Tanks seen in Washington, DC](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/4th-july-donald-trump-military-parade-tanks-seen-washington-dc/1637384001/)

Two lousy tanks and two Bradley AFVs? That’s it? Why the fuck even bother?

And apparently they’re going to be stationary, so we won’t even get the spectacle of some random Democrats, or maybe a herd of undocumented immigrants, being driven before them. What a ripoff.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6595 "2019-07-03T15:29:48Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> … What a ripoff.

Would Trump The Legendary Con Man deliver anything but?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6596 "2019-07-03T15:39:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> All the \*best \*tyrants have tanks in their parades, so…
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> [4th of July Donald Trump military parade: Tanks seen in Washington, DC](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/03/4th-july-donald-trump-military-parade-tanks-seen-washington-dc/1637384001/)

I like that it’s a shitshow on both fronts. It’s a military parade being shoehorned where there shouldn’t be one to ape dictators (and/or France with its ridiculous July 14th parade which every talking head on TV say every fucking year is commemorating the taking of the Bastille when it’s the exact opposite of that, you microcephalic wankers) ; and it’s a _dinky-ass_ military parade that will have all of his dictator buddies quietly chuckling and making remarks about the size of his tank-peen.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6597 "2019-07-03T16:36:13Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> [Trump Took Fox News Tucker Carlson, Not John Bolton, To North Korea](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-took-tucker-carlson-not-bolton-north-korea-2)

By now we’ve all heard about Trump saying that homelessness started with his presidency, but how many of y’all have actually heard it?

[Here is the clip plus some commentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeRbxlmt2QM). The entire video is 7 minutes long; I recommend watching through to the end. Trump’s interview reply takes up the first 3 minutes. The next 3.5 minutes are commentary, and the denouement makes the whole thing sublime.

But the big thing is: listen to Trump. He has no idea what he’s talking about or what he’s saying. It’s _really_ obvious. And yet Tucker Carlson sits there and reacts as if what he’s hearing is perfectly reasonable and makes sense. This is how you get a shitshow country: by not calling people out on their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6598 "2019-07-03T17:24:43Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> …But the big thing is: listen to Trump. He has no idea what he’s talking about or what he’s saying. It’s _really_ obvious. And yet Tucker Carlson sits there and reacts as if what he’s hearing is perfectly reasonable and makes sense. This is how you get a shitshow country: by not calling people out on their bullshit.

This has been the biggest problem IMHO from Day One: people (pundits especially) treating his statements as normal and discussing them seriously, when all that has ever come out of his mouth is shit and lies. FINALLY some media outlets are using the most accurate word, namely, LIES, but some are still analyzing his comments and tweets, which makes about as much sense as analyzing the hairball my cat threw up this morning. Actually, seeing the hairball tells me which cat produced it (one cat is black, the other is calico), and that’s 100% more truth and information than you get from anything Donnie produces from his lying lips.

THE EMPEROR IS NAKED, PEEPS! _\<Where’s the eye bleach?\>_

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6599 "2019-07-03T17:40:00Z")

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[Here’s one that doesn’t piss me off as much as amaze me](https://apnews.com/d94ca41d3413409e9d7395194540eaa0):

> [@](#):
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> President Donald Trump insisted Wednesday that he is not dropping efforts to include a citizenship question on the upcoming 2020 census, even as the U.S. Census Bureau has started the process of printing the questionnaire without it.
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> “News Reports about the Department of Commerce dropping its quest to put the Citizenship Question on the Census is incorrect or, to state it differently, FAKE!” Trump said in a tweet. “We are absolutely moving forward.”
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> The White House did not immediately respond to questions about what he meant.
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> Trump’s tweet directly contradicted comments made less than 24 hours earlier by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Justice Department lawyers that they were standing down, following a Supreme Court decision halting the question.
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> “The Census Bureau has started the process of printing the decennial questionnaires without the question,” Ross said in a statement Tuesday. “My focus, and that of the Bureau and the entire Department is to conduct a complete and accurate census.”
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> Justice Department lawyers also notified parties in lawsuits challenging the question, and at least one federal judge who blocked its inclusion, that the company with a $114 million contract to print census questionnaires had been instructed to start printing forms without the citizenship question.
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> In the short term, Trump’s comment is unlikely to affect work on the census.

It’s done, Donald. You lost.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6600 "2019-07-03T18:00:20Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Here’s one that doesn’t piss me off as much as amaze me](https://apnews.com/d94ca41d3413409e9d7395194540eaa0):It’s done, Donald. You lost.

He’s going to tweet an addendum.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6601 "2019-07-03T18:10:14Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> This is how you get a shitshow country: by not calling people out on their bullshit.

I just read an opinion piece (probably linked from somewhere around here) on the difference between truth, lies, and bullshit. The bullshitter doesn’t care about the distinction between fact and fiction - he spins his own reality to suit his purposes. Trump is a bullshitter.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6602 "2019-07-03T18:15:16Z")

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Aye; I’ve seen that same piece, I think. Mr. Frankfurt’s “haha look how funny this academic study is” little book is getting a lot of attention lately.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6603 "2019-07-03T21:46:19Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Here’s one that doesn’t piss me off as much as amaze me](https://apnews.com/d94ca41d3413409e9d7395194540eaa0):It’s done, Donald. You lost.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> He’s going to tweet an addendum.

Yeah. He’s going to annonce two vacancies in his cabinet.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6604 "2019-07-03T22:22:05Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Here’s one that doesn’t piss me off as much as amaze me](https://apnews.com/d94ca41d3413409e9d7395194540eaa0):
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> > [@](#):
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> > President Donald Trump insisted Wednesday that he is not dropping efforts to include a citizenship question on the upcoming 2020 census, even as the U.S. Census Bureau has started the process of printing the questionnaire without it.
> > 
> > “News Reports about the Department of Commerce dropping its quest to put the Citizenship Question on the Census is incorrect or, to state it differently, FAKE!” Trump said in a tweet. “We are absolutely moving forward.” …
> 
> It’s done, Donald. You lost.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I just read an opinion piece (probably linked from somewhere around here) on the difference between truth, lies, and bullshit. The bullshitter doesn’t care about the distinction between fact and fiction - he spins his own reality to suit his purposes. Trump is a bullshitter.

He’s a bullshitter, and he’s also a bully. And bullies love the power-play of saying stuff that’s clearly untrue, and then basically daring anyone to do anything about it.

Also, he knows his audience. They take the word for the thing all the time. No need to build a wall or end the NK nuclear program or put a question on the census, when you can merely _say_ you’ve done these things…and your fans will accept your words as equivalent to actual completion of the actions.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6605 "2019-07-03T22:25:48Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Here’s one that doesn’t piss me off as much as amaze me](https://apnews.com/d94ca41d3413409e9d7395194540eaa0):It’s done, Donald. You lost.

Them’s fightin’ words! Hold the phone…this just in:

**[DOJ Reverses Course on Citizenship Question, Citing Trump’s Orders](https://a.msn.com/r/2/AADNTfD?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)**

> [@](#):
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> WASHINGTON — A day after pledging that the 2020 census would not ask respondents about their citizenship, the Justice Department reversed course on Wednesday and said it was hunting for a way to restore the question on orders from President Trump.
> 
> Officials told a federal judge in Maryland that they thought there would be a way to still add the question, despite printing deadlines, and that they would ask the Supreme Court to send the case to district court with instructions to remedy the situation.  
> …

Holy fuck. :smack:

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6606 "2019-07-03T22:48:24Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> But the big thing is: listen to Trump. He has no idea what he’s talking about or what he’s saying. It’s _really_ obvious. And yet Tucker Carlson sits there and reacts as if what he’s hearing is perfectly reasonable and makes sense. This is how you get a shitshow country: by not calling people out on their bullshit.

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> This has been the biggest problem IMHO from Day One: people (pundits especially) treating his statements as normal and discussing them seriously, when all that has ever come out of his mouth is shit and lies. FINALLY some media outlets are using the most accurate word, namely, LIES, but some are still analyzing his comments and tweets, which makes about as much sense as analyzing the hairball my cat threw up this morning. Actually, seeing the hairball tells me which cat produced it (one cat is black, the other is calico), and that’s 100% more truth and information than you get from anything Donnie produces from his lying lips.
> 
> THE EMPEROR IS NAKED, PEEPS! _\<Where’s the eye bleach?\>_

I’ve posted this article somewhere else before in one of the Trump threads:

[Trump’s unhinged Fox Business interview illustrates how Fox News normalizes Trump](https://www.vox.com/2019/6/26/18759561/trump-fox-business-interview-mueller)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6607 "2019-07-03T22:55:17Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> To lead a country, you kill people? Damn, don’t give Trump any ideas.

Give Trump some credit. Being a soldier means killing people but Trump figured out a way to avoid doing it.

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