# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 333
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6648 "2019-07-19T09:51:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You mean being smarmy. **Sherrerd** never said it was a _good_ imitation. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6649 "2019-07-19T18:03:06Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Sorry. I’m googling this but coming up empty. Is this a whoosh? > It’s certainly not far fetched. We’ve had alien babies and deportation issues on every soap. Where are Jessica and Mary when needed??!?! I don’t understand what you’re asking. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6650 "2019-07-20T01:14:11Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Of course he doesn’t join in. When has the deity ever joined in the worship of itself? That’s right, and it’s so obvious that I can’t understand why McCarthy thought his “defense” would work. But then Trump fans don’t need actual logic, when called on to explain why The Idiot has done any particular thing—just ‘something to say.’ A nonsensical rationale serves just as well as a reasonable one. > [@Monty](#): > > You mean being smarmy. > [@running\_coach](#): > > **Sherrerd** never said it was a _good_ imitation. > 😉 I’ve always thought Mussolini was kind of smarmy. But maybe that’s because I fail to appreciate the nuances of Italian. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6651 "2019-07-20T07:39:10Z")
Trump probably thinks smarmy is that meat stuff that gets rolled up in flatbread. Kinda like eeyore. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6652 "2019-07-20T15:24:57Z")
> ‘They killed my mom and my six brothers’ Trump: ‘Where are they now?’ ‘They’re dead’ To be fair, I think he just didn’t really understand what she had said, BECAUSE HE WASN’T REALLY LISTENING, but as the rest of the video shows, he is an embarrassment. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6653 "2019-07-20T15:34:06Z")
Just wrote this to my Republican US senator, for all the good it’ll do: \*Your silence since President Trump’s latest attack on your fellow members of Congress is deafening. I urge you, I beg you, to finally have the courage to stand up to the President’s racism, bullying and corruption. I just can’t understand what has become of the Republican Party today. Can you imagine George W. Bush saying of four members of Congress, three of whom were born in the U.S. and one of whom had been a refugee who became a naturalized U.S. citizen, “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested [sic] places from which they came”? Can you imagine George H.W. Bush attacking the free press as an “enemy of the people”? Can you imagine Ronald Reagan, time after time, siding with foreign tyrants over the leaders of allied democracies, and over those who lead his own intelligence services? Can you imagine Gerald Ford praising white supremacists or, even worse, criticizing American prisoners of war? Can you imagine Dwight D. Eisenhower ordering the separation of immigrant children from their parents for days, weeks and months on end, and then being utterly unconcerned when some died in U.S. custody? Can you imagine Theodore Roosevelt lying or exaggerating thirteen times in a single Cabinet meeting? Can you imagine William Howard Taft refusing to disclose the finances of businesses he owned and which received large payments from other countries? Can you imagine Abraham Lincoln insisting that five young black men who had already been exonerated by the courts still ought to have been executed? I know I can’t, not for a second. What the President is doing is not right, and it is not normal, and it is unworthy of a great republic. The eyes of history will be upon you. Stand up now, please, and show some guts. \* ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6654 "2019-07-20T16:11:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Just wrote this to my Republican US senator, for all the good it’ll do: > > \*Your silence since President Trump’s latest attack on your fellow members of Congress is deafening. I urge you, I beg you, to finally have the courage to stand up to the President’s racism, bullying and corruption. > > I just can’t understand what has become of the Republican Party today. Can you imagine George W. Bush saying of four members of Congress, three of whom were born in the U.S. and one of whom had been a refugee who became a naturalized U.S. citizen, “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested [sic] places from which they came”? > > Can you imagine George H.W. Bush attacking the free press as an “enemy of the people”? > > Can you imagine Ronald Reagan, time after time, siding with foreign tyrants over the leaders of allied democracies, and over those who lead his own intelligence services? > > Can you imagine Gerald Ford praising white supremacists or, even worse, criticizing American prisoners of war? > > Can you imagine Dwight D. Eisenhower ordering the separation of immigrant children from their parents for days, weeks and months on end, and then being utterly unconcerned when some died in U.S. custody? > > Can you imagine Theodore Roosevelt lying or exaggerating thirteen times in a single Cabinet meeting? > > Can you imagine William Howard Taft refusing to disclose the finances of businesses he owned and which received large payments from other countries? > > Can you imagine Abraham Lincoln insisting that five young black men who had already been exonerated by the courts still ought to have been executed? > > I know I can’t, not for a second. > > What the President is doing is not right, and it is not normal, and it is unworthy of a great republic. The eyes of history will be upon you. Stand up now, please, and show some guts. > \* It’s very simple. In 1980, Republicans were annoyed by a lot of things. They voted for Reagan, and somehow, that didn’t fix everything. So they got mad and voted for George H.W. Bush. That didn’t work either, so they got angry and voted for George W. Bush. He didn’t make the country perfect, so they got furious and voted for Trump. This feedback loop will continue until something blows, even if it mean destroying the whole apparatus of the nation. What do you want Republicans to do as an alternative, admit they’ve been _wrong_? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6655 "2019-07-20T16:34:15Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Just wrote this to my Republican US senator, for all the good it’ll do: > > \*Your silence since President Trump’s latest attack on your fellow members of Congress is deafening. I urge you, I beg you, to finally have the courage to stand up to the President’s racism, bullying and corruption. > > I just can’t understand what has become of the Republican Party today. Can you imagine George W. Bush saying of four members of Congress, three of whom were born in the U.S. and one of whom had been a refugee who became a naturalized U.S. citizen, “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested [sic] places from which they came”? > > Can you imagine George H.W. Bush attacking the free press as an “enemy of the people”? > > Can you imagine Ronald Reagan, time after time, siding with foreign tyrants over the leaders of allied democracies, and over those who lead his own intelligence services? > > Can you imagine Gerald Ford praising white supremacists or, even worse, criticizing American prisoners of war? > > Can you imagine Dwight D. Eisenhower ordering the separation of immigrant children from their parents for days, weeks and months on end, and then being utterly unconcerned when some died in U.S. custody? > > Can you imagine Theodore Roosevelt lying or exaggerating thirteen times in a single Cabinet meeting? > > Can you imagine William Howard Taft refusing to disclose the finances of businesses he owned and which received large payments from other countries? > > Can you imagine Abraham Lincoln insisting that five young black men who had already been exonerated by the courts still ought to have been executed? > > I know I can’t, not for a second. > > What the President is doing is not right, and it is not normal, and it is unworthy of a great republic. The eyes of history will be upon you. Stand up now, please, and show some guts. > \* You didn’t put in an example for Nixon. Is there supposed to be something the matter with Nixon, or something? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6656 "2019-07-20T16:57:36Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > It’s very simple. In 1980, Republicans were annoyed by a lot of things. They voted for Reagan, and somehow, that didn’t fix everything. So they got mad and voted for George H.W. Bush. That didn’t work either, so they got angry and voted for George W. Bush. He didn’t make the country perfect, so they got furious and voted for Trump. This feedback loop will continue until something blows, even if it mean destroying the whole apparatus of the nation. > > What do you want Republicans to do as an alternative, admit they’ve been _wrong_? You COULD be missing the point of their strategy. It might be that all along they’ve been aiming for the destruction of civilization, confident in the knowledge that when the dust settles, THEY’LL still be standing, ready to rebuild it all from scratch, according to THEIR image of a well-conceived civilization. And, true to their conservative principles, they’ve been choosing as their standard bearers the candidates who represented the SMALLEST step downward from the last one. :dubious:\* \*(obligatory nod to the power of Poe) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6658 "2019-07-20T17:31:38Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You COULD be missing the point of their strategy. It might be that all along they’ve been aiming for the destruction of civilization, confident in the knowledge that when the dust settles, THEY’LL still be standing, ready to rebuild it all from scratch, according to THEIR image of a well-conceived civilization. I’m not sure why you use the phrase “it might be”; that’s been their explicit goal for decades now. My cite is the words and works of Grover Norquist, Ronald Reagan, Jack Abramoff, Newt Gingrich and countless other Republicans. [For instance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist#Views_on_government): > [@](#): > > Norquist favors dramatically reducing the size of government.[13] He has been noted for his widely quoted quip: > > I’m not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."[55] > > Journalist William Greider quotes him saying his goal is to bring America back to what it was “up until Teddy Roosevelt, when the socialists took over. The income tax, the death tax, regulation, all that.”[56] When asked by journalist Steven Kroft about the goal of chopping government “in half and then shrink it again to where we were at the turn of the [20th] century” before Social Security and Medicare, Norquist replied, “We functioned in this country with government at eight percent of GDP for a long time and quite well.”[4] ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6659 "2019-07-20T18:15:57Z")
The “drowning in a bathtub” plan is the small potatoes version of what I’m postulating: the utter destruction of Western civilization (it’s not realistic to suppose that if the USA alone were destroyed, the rest of the world would restrain themselves from feasting on her remains; you’d need to bring down the whole thing). I wonder what the current state of the mineshaft gap is? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6660 "2019-07-20T21:11:10Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > …I wonder what the current state of the mineshaft gap is? “I’m not saying we won’t get our hair mussed, Mr. President…” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6661 "2019-07-22T04:15:04Z")
Mike Pence claims he and Individual 1 were both unhappy about the “send her back” chant > **[Mike Pence says Trump 'might make an effort to speak out' if 'send her back'...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/21/mike-pence-trump-send-her-back-chants/1790045001/)** > > Trump described the audience that chanted, "Send her back" about Rep. Ilhan Omar as "incredible people" and "incredible patriots." But Individual 1 retweeted right wing racist Katie Tompkins, who in the past has called immigrants “cockroaches”. And the Tweet he retweeted? > [@](#): > > New Campaign slogan for #2020? > > “Don’t love it? Leave it!” > > Send her back is the new lock her up. > > Well done to #TeamTrump > **[Trump Once Again Elevates Far-Right, Anti-Immigrant Commentator](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-defends-send-her-back-chanters-retweet-katie-hopkins-far-right-commentator-who-called-1450323)** > > It's not the first time the president has seemingly endorsed the perspective of British commentator Katie Hopkins, who has likened immigrants to rodents and encouraged law enforcement to racially profile the public. So, doesn’t sound like he’s particularly offended. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6662 "2019-07-22T10:03:26Z")
Nitpick: Katie Hopkins, not Tompkins. Hopkins is one of those thoroughly vile individuals who believes that when she says something monstrous about other people - up to and including wishing horrific deaths on them - that’s just her “telling it like it is”, but any criticism of her, no matter how mild, is “persecution”. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6663 "2019-07-22T15:14:28Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The “drowning in a bathtub” plan is the small potatoes version of what I’m postulating: the utter destruction of Western civilization [snip] Doesn’t Trump think this means LA and SF in California? I imagine Trump’s all for that. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6664 "2019-07-22T17:57:25Z")
Does Psalm 52 remind you of anybody in American politics today…? > **[Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 52 - New International Version](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2B52&version=NIV)** > > Psalm 52 - For the director of music. A maskil of David. When Doeg the Edomite had gone to Saul and told him: “David has gone to the house of Ahimelek.” Why do you boast of evil, you mighty hero? Why do you boast all day long, you who are a disgrace... > **[Psalm 52](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_52)** > > Psalm 52 is the 52nd psalm of the Book of Psalms, beginning in English in the King James Version: "Why boastest thou thyself in mischief, O mighty man?". In the slightly different numbering system used in the Greek Septuagint and Latin Vulgate translations of the Bible, this psalm is Psalm 51. In Latin, it is known as "Quid gloriatur in malitia", It is described as a maskil, attributed to David, and is said to have been written "when Doeg the Edomite went and told Saul, and said to him, "Da The p... ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6665 "2019-07-23T00:00:04Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Does Psalm 52 remind you of anybody in American politics today…? > > [Psalm 52 NIV - Psalm 52 - For the director of music. A - Bible Gateway](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+52&version=NIV) > [Psalm 52 - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_52) The King James version has “pluck thee out of thy dwelling place” instead of the NIV’s “pluck you from your tent”–it’s tough to picture 45 in a tent. 🙂 But, yeah. “Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying more than to speak righteousness.” Tailor-made. “This is the man that … trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6666 "2019-07-25T19:36:36Z")
Trump gets trolled, it appears, with an insulting variant on the presidential seal: [Trump delivered a speech in front of a fake presidential seal that showed a Russian imperial eagle clutching golf clubs](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/07/25/trump-delivered-a-speech-in-front-of-a-fake-presidential-seal-that-showed-a-russian-imperial-eagle-clutching-golf-clubs/23778279/) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6667 "2019-07-29T16:22:02Z")
[Trump tells 9/11 First Responders “I was down there also”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-911-first-responders-victims-tower-september-11-a9025556.html?fbclid=IwAR0jtaT20zoAzBQCB4_bRel2JeLZn0tKUhBOQeRMfIhj_piyWilX9E1dPHk) > [@](#): > > “I spent a lot of time down there with you,” the president added, appearing to suggest without evidence that he participated in either rescue efforts or surveying the damage after the attacks. This guy is completely unhinged. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6668 "2019-07-29T16:27:19Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [Trump tells 9/11 First Responders “I was down there also”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-911-first-responders-victims-tower-september-11-a9025556.html?fbclid=IwAR0jtaT20zoAzBQCB4_bRel2JeLZn0tKUhBOQeRMfIhj_piyWilX9E1dPHk) > This guy is completely unhinged. Jon Stewart should have called him out on that as soon as the words left his mouth. But he didn’t, and so now we have to live with knowing that Trump has claimed and will claim to have been at Ground Zero, and many people will believe him and defend the claim. We cannot let this man get away with anything; CALL HIM OUT! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=332) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=334)